TUSD1 - TUSD Governing Board Meeting April 29, 2025 — April 29, 2025

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0:24 They don't know.
1:00 showing.
1:48 as much as
1:54 uh thank you for your patience. Um we do
1:56 have interpretation services if anybody
1:58 needs it. Um but for now I'd like to
2:01 call the meeting of the Tucson Unified
2:03 School District to order. Uh roll call,
2:06 please. Mr. Mr. Ometo here. Dr. Robbie
2:10 here. Miss Luna Rose here. Miss Shaw
2:13 here. Miss Xram here. Uh next we'll move
2:16 on to the land acknowledgement statement
2:18 and the pledge of allegiance. And we
2:21 have a student with us today. Ombberto
2:24 Curel
2:26 Costa. Hi Ombberto. He's in the sixth
2:29 grade at Gail Elementary School. He has
2:33 been enrolled there since preschool.
2:35 A passionate athlete, Alberto enjoys
2:38 playing flag football and was a member
2:40 of the school's team in both the fourth
2:42 and fifth grade. He can often be found
2:44 on the field during lunch recess playing
2:47 the sport he loves. Outside of school,
2:50 he takes jiu-jitsu and kickboxing
2:52 lessons. Wombberto is also an
2:55 outstanding student. He earned a perfect
2:57 score on his first math benchmark and
2:59 demonstrates strong leadership skills as
3:02 both a reading buddy and a school
3:04 ambassador. We are incredibly proud to
3:07 have him represent Gail Elementary
3:09 School at this evening's board meeting.
3:11 So, thank you, Alberto. Um, whenever
3:14 you're ready, you can read the land
3:15 acknowledgement statement. Okay. On
3:18 behalf of the governing board of the
3:20 Tucson Unified School District, I
3:22 wombberto Kurila Costa acknowledge that
3:24 the schools, buildings, and facilities
3:26 of the Tucson Unified School District
3:28 reside on the ancestral homeland of the
3:30 Tahana Autumn Nation and the federally
3:32 recognized tribal land of the Pasuayaki
3:34 tribe. Thank you.
3:44 And if you will all rise for the pledge
3:46 of allegiance, we'll have Ombberto lead
3:48 us in the pledge as
3:52 well. I pledge allegiance to the flag of
3:56 the United States of America and to the
3:59 republic for which it stands, one nation
4:03 under God, indivisible, with liberty and
4:06 justice for all.
4:09 Thank you.
4:12 Let's give him another round of
4:20 applause. Uh Dr. Trir, we're on agenda
4:23 adjustments.
4:27 Yes.
4:30 Yes. President, members of the uh
4:33 governing board, I would like to move uh
4:35 item 9.2 2 uh presentation on population
4:39 trends in Pima County to immediately
4:41 follow uh board member activity reports
4:45 as well as item 8.1
4:48 uh city the uh agreement with the city
4:50 for disp dispatch integration. We have
4:52 some guests here for both items. So
4:55 respectively item 9.2 and item 8.1
4:58 immediately following um board member
5:00 activity reports.
5:04 Is that okay with everyone?
5:07 Okay, Dr. Trujillo, awards and
5:10 recognition.
5:14 Yes, it's uh always a pleasure to
5:17 present the awards and recognitions, the
5:21 student and staff excellence that we
5:24 have uh throughout the Tucson Unified
5:26 School District. So, welcome all of you
5:28 that are watching us here uh online or
5:31 you're here uh in person. Let's go ahead
5:34 and get started with our uh
5:37 superintendent um awards and
5:40 recognition. Just give me one moment
5:45 to pull some
5:51 information. Tonight we begin on a sad
5:53 note as we say goodbye to one of our
5:56 team members. Uh when we lose a family
5:58 member here in TUSD, the loss is felt by
6:01 all of us, especially in the school
6:03 communities that our employees serve.
6:05 And tonight, we begin by honoring the
6:07 life and legacy of Mr. Albert Rietta. He
6:10 was a dedicated member of our Tucson
6:12 Unified family, who recently passed
6:13 away. He began his service with TUSD as
6:16 a bus driver in
6:18 1989, demonstrating a commitment to the
6:21 safety and well-being of the children he
6:23 transported. His strong work ethic and
6:25 dedication were truly exceptional. He
6:28 had a calling keeping kids safe while
6:30 getting them to school was always his
6:32 priority and he took a great pride in
6:35 this work. Elbert was a deeply cherished
6:38 father, data, uncle, cousin, brother and
6:40 friend. He was a man of compassion and
6:43 generosity. He was a respected and
6:45 trustworthy man known for his infectious
6:47 smile, his overwhelming laughter, and
6:50 deeprooted love for hunting, camping,
6:52 and the Los Angeles Rams. His commitment
6:55 to helping everybody he encountered was
6:56 evident in all aspects of his life. The
6:59 Evetta family asked that Albert be
7:01 remembered not for how his life ended,
7:04 but for the way he lived with purpose,
7:07 generosity, and joy, and for the
7:10 profound and lasting impact that he had
7:12 on everybody fortunate enough to know
7:15 him. So, let's take a moment to
7:18 acknowledge, a moment of silence, the
7:20 life and service of Mr. Albert Rivera.
7:34 Thank
7:38 you. And as we reflect on those we've
7:41 loved and lost and the legacy they leave
7:43 behind, it's also important to recognize
7:45 obviously the promise and the potential
7:47 of tomorrow's stars. and we have an
7:49 opportunity to do that now with some
7:50 outstanding student achievement
7:52 highlights coming out of our career and
7:54 technical education programming. These
7:57 two students have each been awarded the
7:59 O'Reilly Automotive Scholarship. We have
8:02 a $2,000 award thanks to the support of
8:04 the Puma Jake Ted Foundation coming from
8:07 O'Reilly. These students uh applied from
8:10 across Puma County and tonight's honores
8:13 are the distinguished recipients of this
8:15 $2,000 award. So, from Sabino High
8:18 School, we recognize Ethan Gets, who is
8:21 thriving in the automotive program at
8:22 the downtown Puma County College campus.
8:25 We also uh from Sanorita High School.
8:28 Big congratulations goes to Angel Flores
8:31 who is excelling in the diesel engine
8:33 repair program as well. Although Ethan
8:36 and Angel aren't here tonight, we want
8:38 them to know how proud we are of their
8:40 achievements. They'll be officially
8:42 recognized at the Puma Jed Foundation
8:44 scholarship celebration on April 22nd
8:48 where over $45,000 in scholarships will
8:50 be awarded to deserving students. This
8:53 kind of success doesn't happen in a
8:56 vacuum. It takes hard work, committed
8:59 educators, and strong CTE leadership.
9:01 And we're grateful to everybody who
9:03 helps make these opportunities possible
9:05 for our students. Ethan and Angel,
9:08 congratulations. You're setting the bar
9:10 high. and showing us all what's possible
9:12 with passion and perseverance.
9:15 Congratulations. A hand again for these
9:16 two outstanding
9:24 students. It is my great pleasure
9:26 tonight to recognize GIO K5 Magnet
9:29 School for a truly outstanding
9:30 achievement. Grio has been named a 2024
9:34 National ESA Distinguished School, one
9:37 of only two schools in the entire state
9:39 of Arizona to receive this national
9:41 recognition. The prestigious award
9:43 presented by the National Association of
9:45 the Elementary and Secondary Education
9:48 Act program
9:49 administrators publicly recognizes
9:51 federally funded schools that have made
9:54 significant educational advances and
9:57 demonstrated exceptional academic
9:59 achievement among their students.
10:02 Schools selected for this honor must
10:04 meet several rigorous criteria. They
10:07 must serve a student population with a
10:09 poverty rate of at least 35%.
10:11 demonstrate high academic achievement or
10:14 significant growth and meet or exceed
10:16 their state's accountability standards.
10:19 Gariel does all of this and more. This
10:23 award reflects the exemplary leadership,
10:25 unwavering dedication of our talented
10:27 educators, the diligent effort of our
10:29 students, and the steadfast support of
10:32 our families. Their collective efforts
10:34 have fostered an environment where
10:36 students thrive academically and
10:37 socially. At this time, I would like to
10:39 invite principal Kristen Bidd to join me
10:43 in presenting the state certificate to
10:45 the Kario teachers in recognition of
10:47 their exceptional contributions for this
10:50 achievement. Mrs. Bill
11:13 [Applause]
11:19 [Music]
11:40 [Music]
11:45 Look at
11:46 me. Thank you very much.
12:08 [Applause]
12:23 Our next recognition, we want to now
12:26 focus our attention on the Blendman
12:29 community for their ongoing work with
12:31 Solutions Street. Uh the Tucson Unified
12:34 School District, we are dedicated to
12:36 providing regular opportunities for our
12:38 staff to collaborate, engage in
12:40 meaningful staff collaboration and
12:43 professional development. And Blendman
12:45 Elementary has dedicated their
12:46 collaborative efforts into becoming a
12:48 highly functioning and effective
12:50 professional learning community school.
12:53 Alicia Henderson is here from Solution
12:55 Tree, Arizona to share some exciting
12:58 news about the great work happening at
13:00 Blendman. Alicia.
13:06 Thank you. Thank you very
13:09 much, Dr. Trujillo. Madame President and
13:12 board members, my name is Alicia
13:13 Henderson, and I'm very proud to be here
13:16 tonight to not only recognize Blleman as
13:19 a model PLC, but the very first model
13:23 PLC in Puma County and the very first
13:27 model PLC in southern Arizona. So, this
13:30 is a really, really big deal. So, let's
13:33 talk for just a minute about what does
13:34 it mean to be able to qualify to apply
13:37 to be a model PLC? Well, it means you
13:39 have to have all of those collaborative
13:41 systems in working order and those are
13:44 used on a regular basis to impact
13:46 student achievement. To be able to apply
13:49 to be a model PLC, you have to have 3
13:51 years of sustained student achievement,
13:54 which you know is definitely happening
13:56 at Blendman. And this isn't friends just
13:58 about their letter grade that they
13:59 receive from the state. This is the day
14:01 in and day out work that they're doing
14:03 to impact student achievement. So, with
14:06 that said, I did share with you that
14:08 this is the very first model in Puma
14:10 County. And yes, that's a challenge,
14:13 y'all. That's a challenge, everybody.
14:16 Um, but also to know that they are one
14:18 of only 18 schools in the entire state
14:21 to be recognized as a model. So, we are
14:24 very, very proud of their efforts. As I
14:26 often say, being a PLC itself, let alone
14:30 a model, is not easy. It doesn't happen
14:33 quickly. It takes full collective
14:35 effort, but it is the work that is also
14:38 necessary to impact our students. So
14:40 friends, this is what we have heard in
14:43 their application and from their
14:45 viewers. These are some really strong
14:47 statements. Profound transformation. I
14:50 know in 2017 they started a lot of this
14:53 work and it's now 2025 when they're
14:55 really starting to recognize all of
14:57 those efforts coming to life
14:58 fundamentally improving academic
15:00 achievement, behavior, collaboration.
15:04 It's a testament to their unwavering
15:06 commitment. And I think that's not just
15:08 to improvement, but that's to their
15:09 children and to the community. uh a
15:12 shared mission of high levels of
15:14 learning for
15:15 all, thriving community of learners,
15:18 sustainable culture, and more. So,
15:21 they've got so much to be proud of. And
15:23 what I'd like to say is thank you to the
15:25 governing board and to this community
15:26 for continually supporting them in these
15:28 efforts so that they can get the
15:30 results. So, there are three different
15:32 levels that they could have been
15:33 recognized as. As a promising practices
15:36 site, that means that you have one year
15:38 of student achievement. They far
15:40 surpassed that to become a full model
15:42 with three years of sustained student
15:44 achievement. And now the next challenge
15:46 for them is to work towards ambassador
15:48 status, which means they would at least
15:50 sustain the work that they've been doing
15:51 for the past 3 years for another 3 years
15:54 and have similar success. So they are
15:57 definitely on their path. So with that,
16:00 friends, I'd like to say congratulations
16:01 to Blendman Elementary. And I'd like to
16:03 invite Kelly Mack and her team to the
16:05 front to be recognized.
16:13 [Applause]
16:21 that we will have the team and
16:26 hope it from all of the mountain tops
16:29 around
16:31 Tucson
16:35 model of course. Thank you. Very nice.
16:40 Thank you very much.
16:51 [Applause]
17:03 And as we close out uh awards and
17:06 recognitions, there's no better way to
17:07 close it out. Just a gentle reminder,
17:09 not only for the TUSD community, but the
17:12 community at large, whether you're
17:14 parents or your community members or
17:16 small business owners or just residents
17:19 of the city. May 5th through May 9th,
17:21 it's teacher appreciation week. So,
17:24 where Yeah, absolutely.
17:31 So, wherever you are in our great city,
17:32 whether you're at the grocery store,
17:34 walking down your street, or at one of
17:35 our beautiful parks, or anywhere you're
17:38 at, if you see a teacher, please thank
17:40 them and wish them all the best this
17:42 teacher celebration week, May 5th
17:44 through 9th. Tonight, we've highlighted
17:46 just a couple incredible examples of
17:48 teachers making a difference. But every
17:50 teacher in our district plays a vital
17:52 role in shaping minds, inspiring hearts.
17:55 Uh it's very very important to reminder
17:58 I tell groups all the time there really
18:00 is only one transformational institution
18:03 in American life. It's the public school
18:05 meaning the lives that those that enter
18:07 it change for the better when they leave
18:09 it. And at the center of that
18:10 transformational work is the classroom
18:13 teacher. So
18:15 absolutely let us thank them May 5th
18:17 through May 9th president governor board
18:19 members. That concludes awards and
18:21 recognitions.
18:23 Thank you Dr. Trio. If um I could just
18:26 have a point of personal privilege
18:28 really quickly, Jean, if you could just
18:30 put up that slide for
18:32 [Music]
18:34 me. Uh we also lost a beloved member of
18:39 the Davis community. Today we honor
18:42 Senor Daniel Mahia, a beloved teacher
18:45 and coach who dedicated his life to the
18:48 students at Davis Bilingual. Over
18:51 decades of teaching and coaching, he
18:53 touched the lives of many generations,
18:55 inspiring young people to believe in
18:57 themselves and to strive for greatness.
19:00 Senor Mahia was known for his unwavering
19:02 commitment to physical education, his
19:05 beloved summer summer basketball camps,
19:08 and above all, his deep belief in every
19:10 student he encountered. His impact on
19:13 our community is immeasurable and his
19:15 spirit will live on in all those he
19:18 taught, coached and mentored. Sen Mahia
19:22 will deeply be missed, but his legacy
19:24 will never be forgotten. He taught PE at
19:28 Davis for many, many years. Um, and he
19:31 also did the summer basketball camps
19:34 along with mariachi camps. My daughter
19:37 was in the third grade when she had
19:40 first went to her first mariachi camp.
19:42 He taught her how to put that basketball
19:45 in between her legs and to do sick
19:49 crossovers as she says. Um he was just a
19:53 great
19:54 person. He was even refing up until this
19:57 year. Um he would uh ref uh basketball
20:01 games for um the Ros Scrooge Cougar
20:04 Classic. So, um I know that the Davis
20:08 biling uh Davis bilingual uh community
20:12 is very
20:14 uh heartbroken, but his legacy will live
20:17 on and will never be forgotten. So,
20:19 thank you. Uh if we could just have a
20:20 brief moment of silence for Mr.
20:30 Mahia. Thank you.
20:40 Uh, next is board member activity
20:42 reports. Dr. Shaw, since you have to
20:44 leave soon, I'll let you go first. Thank
20:46 you, President Extramm. Uh, so during
20:48 the last month, I had a chance to visit
20:50 uh, two schools in the southwest. Banks
20:52 Elementary School. Uh, thank you,
20:54 Principal Rosenberg, for the tour as a
20:55 A-rated school in the southwest part of
20:57 Tucson. Uh, TUSD, amazing campus. had a
21:00 great time visiting and learning more
21:01 about the community of banks. Also went
21:04 down the street to visit uh VC
21:05 Elementary School. Thank you, Principal
21:06 Eric and uh assistant principal Bermudas
21:08 for the tour and introduction to that
21:11 community. VC is one of our largest
21:12 elementary schools, if not the largest
21:14 elementary school in TUSD and learned a
21:16 lot about uh the amazing things
21:17 happening on that campus. Both schools
21:20 are new uh sixth grade K6 campuses. to
21:22 learn a lot about the integration of the
21:24 sixth grade campus onto the school and
21:26 got to read some of my favorite books
21:27 with uh the kindergartener class and and
21:29 first grade classes over there. Uh my
21:31 next site visit will happen in a few
21:33 minutes. So I apologize to the group.
21:34 I'll be heading out for just a a little
21:36 bit of the meeting to uh get to Linew
21:38 Weaver from my twins uh opera that
21:40 they're performing in uh at Line Weaver.
21:41 So I'll miss a few minutes of the
21:43 meeting after I finish up here with my
21:44 uh board member activity report. Uh
21:47 continuing on uh last night I got to
21:48 join PBLO College Preparatory Academy
21:50 for their gayla. amazing program at PBLO
21:53 High School that takes some of the best
21:54 and brightest in our district and really
21:56 helps them prepare for uh the college
21:58 experience and get them ready with
22:00 amazing scholarships and admissions to
22:02 schools. I got to speak and talk to uh
22:05 the students and the families and honor
22:07 some of the uh amazing students making
22:09 progress in academic achievement. Thank
22:11 you Dr. Theresa Toto for the invitation
22:13 and the opportunity to address the
22:14 students and families. Over the last
22:17 month, I met with uh Lindseay Agalar and
22:19 the food services department to talk
22:20 more about how we're going to improve
22:22 our food services in the years ahead. Uh
22:24 got to meet with Carla Essama and our
22:26 communications and marketing team to
22:27 talk about how we're going to be
22:28 recruiting our our best and brightest to
22:31 continue and stay with and and come to
22:33 TUSD. Uh attended our audit committee as
22:36 the board leazison to the audit
22:37 committee. uh got to attend the
22:39 superintendence concert a few weeks ago
22:41 uh and see not just students but our uh
22:44 amazing uh arts and music teachers
22:46 perform some great numbers that night.
22:48 Uh and enjoying tea. Thank you Jim in
22:50 the back there or tea for organizing the
22:52 rally a few weeks ago to really support
22:54 public education and along with my many
22:57 of my board colleagues got to uh
22:58 participate in that and really help
22:59 support along with what a thousand more
23:01 than a thousand individuals to support
23:04 um uh public education. And then finally
23:07 uh attended the National School Board
23:09 Association conference uh in Atlanta,
23:11 Georgia along with my colleague Natalie
23:13 Lunar Rose and our superintendent. I
23:15 attended a number of sessions during
23:17 that uh conference including facilities
23:19 upgrades and management, how to support
23:22 XED departments uh programs that link
23:24 students with advanced learning
23:25 opportunities, uh managing cell phones
23:27 in schools among other really important
23:30 presentations. I learned a lot about,
23:32 you know, how I can bring some effective
23:33 knowledge and and and background into my
23:35 role as a governing board member along
23:37 with collaborating with other folks
23:39 around the country that are addressing
23:40 some of the same problems we're
23:41 addressing to USD. So, very fortunate to
23:44 be able to attend uh that conference a
23:45 few weeks ago. Thank you.
23:50 Uh who would like to go next?
23:55 Mr. Romero.
24:00 All right. Check, check. All right. All
24:03 right. So, I'm going to go through this
24:05 quick. Otherwise, if I did 14 stories
24:06 for all the different schools, we'd be
24:08 here for a while. So, I met with Izzy
24:10 over at TAP. Um Deanna and her team at
24:12 Mccoral, Emily at Marshall, Kathy at
24:14 Dunham, Shauna Tully, Clarissa at Morgan
24:17 Maxwell, Mormono Oscar at Soling, Tom
24:20 and joined by Pentanel Regional, Holly
24:22 Hamill, uh Josephina Wakefield, Jessica
24:25 at Steel, Cesar at Choya, Sandra at
24:28 Robins, Rachel at Ericson, Carrie at
24:31 Wheeler, and I found out Mr. Valentine
24:34 was back at Wheeler because Wheeler's
24:36 irrigation is now working. Keep up the
24:38 great work, Mr. Valentine. and then
24:40 principal Sarah Davidson. And while I
24:42 was there, I met and spoke with Speedy,
24:44 who in addition to landscaping for TSD,
24:47 he's the artist that painted the mural
24:48 at Robert Snailer. Pleasure to meet you,
24:50 Speedy. Looking forward to your future
24:52 murals. And that's my quick report.
24:56 Thank
24:57 you, Miss
24:59 Shaw. Thank you. Nobody likes to go
25:01 before or after Mr.
25:04 Romero. Um, but I will do that today.
25:08 Um, good evening everyone. Uh, so I had
25:11 the opportunity to visit Craig
25:12 Elementary um, and had an extensive tour
25:15 with uh, Principal Rodriguez. Um, just
25:18 seeing all the great things that they're
25:19 doing over there. And then I met a
25:21 couple girls in the lunchroom who were
25:24 um, using some of the like food that was
25:27 um, not used. Uh, taking the oranges
25:29 that kids didn't want, squeezing them
25:32 and making orange juice. Uh, which was
25:35 really great to see all the innovation
25:36 over there. And then later I saw one of
25:38 those girls at Himl Park um and she came
25:41 up to me and just you know shared more
25:43 about her story. So that was fabulous.
25:45 Um I also spoke with a staff member um
25:49 who is unfortunately um in the process
25:51 of being terminated. Uh he had a lot of
25:54 questions about why that was happening
25:56 and the process. Um and so I um I'm
25:59 still working with him. But I do want to
26:01 remind staff that if you are facing
26:02 termination, you can always appeal that.
26:06 Um, let's see. I also met with a group
26:09 of staff from the EXE department about
26:11 issues that they're dealing with,
26:13 specifically um um their um request to
26:17 institute a case load cap um which will
26:20 definitely help them with their workload
26:23 and um help us um remain in compliance.
26:26 I hope we can institute that at one of
26:28 our um next board meetings. Um, I spoke
26:32 with a member of the press uh who
26:34 reached out to me about um the student
26:37 initiated um renaming of um Miles and
26:42 Sam Hughes. It was at our last meeting
26:44 during the call to the audience. It's
26:45 really interesting. They did a lot of
26:47 research about that. Um and so I'm not
26:50 sure if that story went out yet, but if
26:51 you're interested in understanding our
26:53 renaming process, um you could look up
26:56 our uh TUSD policy code FF. Um and then
27:00 today I participated in the big cities
27:02 health coalition panel um where I spoke
27:05 about some of my work with the solid
27:07 program um and also learned about what
27:09 the um county and the city of Tucson is
27:12 doing in regards to their opioid
27:14 settlements um and what other big cities
27:16 like Dallas, Milwaukee, um Chicago are
27:19 doing um to address their like public
27:21 health crisis, working with like um
27:24 school districts um or other
27:26 jurisdictions to make sure that like
27:28 money that they have um is being used in
27:31 the best way possible. And that's all
27:33 for me. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Luna
27:37 Rose. Good evening, everybody. Thank you
27:39 for coming. I know you could be doing
27:40 other things on a Tuesday night, so
27:44 um I will probably not be as quick as
27:46 Mr. Romero, but I think he wins the
27:49 record this time. Okay. Uh so uh I
27:54 attended um the ReadAcross America event
27:59 uh and I read to kindergarteners at
28:01 Fruit Tendlers. Thank you to Principal
28:04 Tim Ericson and to um Miss Cassie Conrad
28:09 who is the um one of the uh kindergarten
28:11 teachers there. She invited me and we
28:14 are also former alumni class of 1992
28:17 RingCon Rangers. So, I was excited to go
28:19 and read it to um her kids and we read
28:22 the sour grape and they um just
28:25 delivered to me a whole bunch of thank
28:27 you letters with uh grapes colored. So,
28:30 it's super cute. Um so, thank you uh
28:34 Cassie for that. Um I met with um some
28:39 soul parents that have some concerns at
28:42 their school. Um, I won't get into the
28:44 details, but if there's any parents
28:46 listening, um, you know, board members
28:49 are available if you have questions or
28:51 concerns, so you're welcome to at any
28:53 time meet with us. Um, from there, uh, I
28:57 did attend the NSBA's National School
28:59 Board Association conference in Atlanta
29:01 with Dr. Shaw and, uh, Dr. Trillo.
29:05 Um what I found interesting was that not
29:08 just this a lot of school districts that
29:10 are meeting um having the same issues
29:15 but every the the sessions that were
29:18 filled and that were packed and got um
29:21 closed to some because the room capacity
29:24 were all the the all the DEI sessions.
29:27 school districts are concerned about the
29:29 their programs and their um departments
29:32 that would qualify under DEI. So, that
29:35 was um definitely a hot topic. Um and
29:39 that we are kind of in the middle of the
29:41 road. I met some a really nice young
29:43 lady who
29:44 um we've been corresponding now and
29:47 again. She's from Prince George's,
29:49 Maryland, and her school board oversees
29:51 103,000 students. So, um I feel a little
29:55 bit blessed that we don't have that
29:57 many, but um I'm sure that keeps them
30:00 busy. Um I had a couple tours toward the
30:03 uh language acquisition department.
30:04 Thank you to Patricia Sandoval Taylor
30:07 and her team for spending the afternoon
30:08 with me. um with uh Patricia, we went to
30:13 um Dolan and um Ross Scrooge to see uh
30:18 the work that they're doing in their CR
30:20 uh PI departments and the amazing work
30:23 of um the first I think it was a first
30:27 grade class in Ros Cruz where the
30:29 students walked into a session where
30:31 these kids were um speaking about
30:35 national monuments um all in Spanish and
30:38 it was very seamless and it's just
30:40 beautiful to watch. So, thank you uh
30:42 Patricia for that tour. Also, a tour of
30:45 Linew Weaver. Um this was my first time
30:48 as a tour at Linew Weaver as three of
30:51 the parents here. Um I didn't want to
30:54 overwhelm Miss Wells with one more board
30:56 member, but she was gracious enough to
30:58 um to give me a tour and um just a
31:01 wonderful campus and I can see why my
31:03 colleagues um send their have sent their
31:06 children there. uh tour Van Buskerk
31:08 Elementary. Thank you to Miss Barahas
31:10 for the for the tour. Um and uh one of
31:15 the older schools in the district was a
31:17 school that my mother attended. Um so it
31:19 was nice to make that personal
31:22 connection. Uh also attended the
31:25 Mexican-American Student Services
31:26 Recognition. Thank you to Maria Federico
31:29 Brummer and her team. It was a packed
31:32 session. It was a It was packed in that
31:35 ballroom at the UVA and um kudos to
31:39 their team for doing it in under two
31:41 hours. I hats off. I know that's a lot
31:43 of work. And um did attend um I am on
31:48 the um health insurance task force
31:49 meetings. So I attended um my first two
31:52 meetings. And um
31:55 lastly, just to give a parent shout out
31:57 as a parent to the Ringcon University
32:00 Color Guard. They just finished their
32:01 winter season. Um and they did had their
32:04 performance up in um championship
32:07 performance up in Phoenix at um there
32:10 was a mountain um up there. So thank you
32:13 to uh the coach um Miss Nicole Hamilton
32:17 and principles Alyssa Welch at Brinkcon
32:19 and Beth Wrong at UHS for their
32:21 continued support of that
32:24 program. Thank you. I will try to go
32:27 quickly. I attended the tea
32:29 demonstration to uh to support the
32:32 department of education. I also attended
32:35 the TUSD track and field um event.
32:38 Lineweaver won um the over for overall
32:42 school and the boys and girls also came
32:44 in first place. So kudos to them. Next I
32:48 attended a um a tour of the
32:51 multicultural curriculum department.
32:54 Thank you to uh Dr. Dr. Rosalinda
32:56 Rodriguez, Dr. Junko Secoy, and Terry
32:59 Kilkran, Heidi Aranda, and Sakoro Das. I
33:03 learned much more about what this
33:05 department does and how unique and
33:07 beautiful it is to have them in our our
33:10 TUSD um district. I attended the B the
33:13 bond oversight committee meeting. We
33:16 also were able to tour the special needs
33:18 buses. Uh those are in and those are new
33:22 and on the street. So, um, thank you to
33:25 the bond oversight committee and to Dr.
33:28 Charlotte Carter, uh, for all of your
33:30 work. Uh, next I had a tour of the
33:33 language acquisition department. Thank
33:35 you to Pat Sandival Taylor. Um, we were
33:38 able to attend three schools. We went to
33:41 Vanusker, Utterbach, and CE Rose. And at
33:44 Van Busker, we got to see the
33:46 kindergarten classroom, and they are
33:48 reading, writing, and speaking in
33:51 Spanish. which is it's wonderful to see.
33:55 And then next um and lastly, I visited
33:58 Robinson Elementary School. Thank you to
34:00 Principal Loan. I got to see the fourth
34:03 grade violin and their practice for
34:06 their upcoming
34:08 um gig for their parents. So, that was
34:11 great to see. I also uh learned more
34:14 about their school and their community
34:16 and also got to visit their beautiful
34:18 library again. So uh thank you uh
34:22 principal loan for that tour and um that
34:25 concludes governing board member
34:29 reports. Um so be for agenda adjustments
34:32 we are moving on to item
34:35 9.2 K through 12 population trends in
34:38 Arizona and Pima County. Dr. Trill.
34:41 Yes. President extra members of the
34:43 governing board. I'd like to welcome Mr.
34:45 Rick Bremer from the center of applied
34:46 economics. Um I I met Mr. Bremer a few
34:50 weeks ago at our superintendent
34:51 collaborative. He gave a very very
34:53 informative uh very highlevel overview
34:57 of really some of the generational
34:58 shifts uh in K12 aged family
35:01 demographics that are happening across
35:03 the state of Arizona and then here in
35:05 southern Arizona as well and how they
35:07 impact not only our district but
35:09 traditional public school districts
35:11 throughout the county. Mr. Brammer,
35:12 welcome. Thank you very much. U
35:15 President Extram, members of the board,
35:16 Dr. Trillo, it is my pleasure to be here
35:18 tonight. I'm not going to try to take
35:20 too much time. I've got a lot of slides,
35:22 but a lot of them I can go through real
35:24 quickly, but there are some real
35:25 important concepts I think here to to
35:27 think about and to understand. And I
35:30 think when enrollment is do has been
35:31 doing what it's doing, the your first
35:33 instinct is to kind of take it
35:35 personally somehow. And I want to assure
35:37 you that's really not what's going on.
35:39 So, applied economics has been doing
35:41 this type of work around the state of
35:43 Arizona for 30 years. This year we've
35:45 had the privilege of serving 70
35:47 different uh school districts including
35:50 Tucson Unified. So we uh have been
35:52 around the block and we are in times
35:55 that I have not seen before and it's
35:57 been going on for a little while but um
36:01 it's you know we I started doing this
36:03 work and it was all about growth and now
36:05 it's all about managing you know the
36:07 population sort of that we that we have
36:09 to serve. And so we're going to start
36:11 out some pretty high level stuff looking
36:14 at state and national demographic and
36:16 enrollment trends. Okay. So this chart
36:19 actually shows you the blue bars is the
36:21 population of the United States 10-year
36:23 periods from 1990 all the way through
36:26 2050. So the actual data goes all the
36:29 way right through the middle of the
36:30 chart. And you can see that the growth
36:32 rate in the United States has been you
36:34 know tapering off and is continuing to
36:36 flatten even more. Now the the red line
36:39 in the on the graph is keyed to the
36:41 right hand axis and that shows you the
36:44 percentage of the population that's
36:46 under 18. And because it's fallen so
36:50 much that the actual number of persons
36:54 under 18 in the United States has not
36:57 increased since 2015. Not at all. In the
37:00 entire nation all put
37:03 together. So this is not just a Arizona
37:05 phenomenon. This is something that's
37:07 actually going on one level or another
37:10 pretty much coast to coast. Here in
37:12 Arizona, we don't we all know that the
37:15 as a state at least we've had some
37:17 tremendous population growth over the
37:19 last 20 years between 1990 and 2020. Um
37:23 the population of the state um about
37:26 doubled from 3.7 to 7.3 million people.
37:31 um the next 30 years it's projected um
37:34 well there's three different I'm sorry
37:36 scenarios for the future growth that are
37:39 done by the official uh state
37:42 demographer and the most preferred
37:44 scenario the blue line in the middle
37:46 would take us up to about 10 million
37:48 people as a state over the next 30
37:50 years. So that would be adding about
37:52 another 2.7 million people to the
37:55 population of the state. But the thing
37:58 to remember is, you know, we go from 7.3
38:01 to 10, but where does it increase? And
38:04 so these dots show you the green is the
38:07 was the 2020 population and you add the
38:10 blue gives you the up to 2050. And
38:12 without going through all of the
38:14 numbers, the the official projections
38:16 show about a 1.7 million increase in
38:19 Maricopa County, about a
38:22 530,000 increase in Panal County, and
38:25 about a 200,000 uh increase in Puma
38:28 County over the next 30 years. And the
38:31 big, you know, the big difference and
38:33 the the big change for me since I've
38:35 been doing this, you know, for for this
38:37 entire period of time is the surge of
38:40 growth in Panal County. And a lot of
38:42 that, and we're going to come back to
38:43 this a little bit later, but it's all
38:45 about housing affordability right now.
38:48 Salaries and so forth have not kept up
38:50 with our cost of living. And for the
38:51 first time, we're suffering because of
38:53 that as a state. And I think it will
38:56 actually have or could have an impact on
38:58 our growth going forward. Now, if you
39:00 look at the population under 18
39:04 um in the state of Arizona,
39:08 um you can see that it grew almost on
39:11 pace with total population all the way
39:14 through 2010.
39:16 And then because of birth rates and the
39:19 and the great recession that occurred in
39:21 that period of time, um the population
39:24 under 18 in the state has not increased
39:26 at all since 2010 and it will not
39:29 increase until at least after until at
39:32 least 2030. And so stealing my own
39:35 thunder as we have a population, a
39:37 school age population that is
39:40 fixed at best and then we bring in a
39:43 bunch more alternative providers,
39:45 charters and vouchers and things like
39:47 that. We're essentially just taking the
39:49 same size pie and cutting it into more
39:51 pieces which means everybody gets less.
39:54 And that's, you know, one of the
39:55 fundamental takeaways that I think you
39:57 need to have is that, you know, you're
39:59 not alone in in, you know, in having a
40:02 smaller piece of the pie. So, in the
40:04 time period that the population under 18
40:06 has been uh unchanged, total population
40:09 in the state has grown by over 900,000
40:12 people. So, this is a major departure
40:15 from where we have been in the past. And
40:17 if we look at where the future
40:19 population under 18 uh is supposed to
40:22 materialize um we have a increase of
40:25 about 130,000 persons in Maricopa
40:28 County, 104,000 in Panol County and
40:33 17,000 in Puma County over the next 30
40:37 years according to those state
40:39 projections. And a lot of what's driving
40:41 this, as I alluded to earlier, are birth
40:44 rates. I'm going to talk about two
40:46 lines. the one for Arizona and then I'll
40:48 talk about Puma County. But the red line
40:50 for the state of Arizona, you can see
40:52 that in 2006 we had a we had a lot of
40:55 things going on in 2006. Uh great
40:58 recession
41:00 SB1070
41:01 anti-immigration legislation really
41:04 roared to life in a big way. And so we
41:06 saw birth rates literally crash by 20%
41:10 in a period of 5 years. Um, and then we
41:14 had a sort of a leveling off period. And
41:17 actually, most demographers and
41:18 economists thought birth rates would go
41:20 back up a little bit again because in
41:22 history that's what's happened. You have
41:23 a big dip and then everybody says, "Oh,
41:25 okay. Now I'll do it." You know, and
41:26 it'll come back up. And the exact
41:28 opposite happened. We continued down and
41:31 down and down. And the evidence is
41:33 suggesting that well, we know that the
41:35 average age at first birth of a woman
41:39 increased by 5 years in a space of 10.
41:42 So all of a sudden we're not having kids
41:44 in our 20s. A lot of us were having them
41:46 in our early 30s. And that created a big
41:49 gap in the number. We'll catch up a
41:51 little bit again on that. But it moved
41:53 everybody back on the curve. And the
41:55 longer and the the later you have your
41:57 first child, the fewer children you will
42:00 have total. That's just a a statistical
42:03 fact. So for the state of Arizona from
42:07 200 in 2006 there were 102,000 births in
42:10 the state total. Last year there were
42:13 78,000 births in the state of
42:15 Arizona. So we literally have at least a
42:18 third less in Puma County in 2006 there
42:22 were 14,000
42:24 um births and last year there were
42:28 9,700. So you're down basically 31% in
42:32 the birth rate in Puma County. And one
42:34 of the things I guess that's kind of
42:36 disturbing about if you these are rates,
42:38 right? So you're dividing by population.
42:41 So if you look at the just the number of
42:44 births, the simplest way to look at it,
42:46 the number of births in the state
42:48 actually bottomed in
42:49 2019 about 77,000. Hasn't moved, hasn't
42:53 gone up, but it hasn't gone down more
42:56 yet either. And unfortunately in Pima
42:58 County, it's not a lot, but we're still
43:01 seeing the number of births, not just
43:03 the rate, but the number of births
43:05 dropping off. And we've had a what what
43:08 we'll see in a minute is a tremendous
43:10 aging of the population that's taken
43:12 place over the last 10 or 15 years in
43:15 particular. Um and you know the
43:18 comparison if you go back to that 2006
43:20 period you compare Arizona birth rates
43:23 we were you know um basically at least
43:26 20% above the national average in terms
43:29 of our birth rates. And as um population
43:34 you know um has changed let's put it
43:37 that way uh new rules have gone into
43:40 effect you can see our birth rates have
43:41 now put us below the national average.
43:45 So the only other state I do work, you
43:48 know, in a little least a little work in
43:50 other states and it's interesting to me
43:52 that Utah and Arizona are the two states
43:54 that have had the biggest drop in their
43:56 birth rates uh during this period of
43:59 time and we're neighbors and we we're
44:01 we're different in some ways and way
44:03 different in other ways. And so I find
44:05 it interesting that that's where the
44:06 phenomena has actually been, you know,
44:08 the most acute if you will.
44:11 Um, we're going to switch over now talk
44:13 about enrollment a little bit. This is
44:15 publicly funded students in Arizona. Red
44:18 part of the bar is were students in
44:20 district schools. The blue part of the
44:22 bar is kids in charter schools. And so
44:26 you can see it talking about that 2006
44:29 2007 that was actually when publicly
44:32 funded enrollment peaked in Arizona. And
44:35 after that, because of the recession and
44:39 some of the uh SB1070 and those kinds of
44:41 things, around 300,000 people left the
44:44 state uh in just over um 18 months. And
44:48 an awful lot of them took kids with
44:50 them. And so we saw enrollment drop um
44:54 and still really hasn't gotten back to
44:55 that level. It increased a little bit
44:57 through about 2014, bounced back a
44:59 little bit through 2014, but you can see
45:02 is no change in totally publicly funded
45:05 enrollment since then. And since the
45:07 blue part of the bar has been getting
45:09 smaller or has been getting larger,
45:10 excuse me, uh the district part of the
45:13 bar basically has been getting smaller.
45:16 And so all the districts they work with
45:19 except for the ones that are really
45:21 building tons of affordable housing,
45:24 every district I work for is losing
45:25 enrollment at some level or another. Um
45:28 the interesting the last thing I'll say
45:30 about this is if you look at the blue
45:31 part of the bar the last two years and
45:34 notice how there hasn't been any
45:36 increase in the last couple of years in
45:37 charter growth. Well, they're up against
45:39 the same thing you are in terms of
45:40 demographics. there's not there's not
45:43 more kids out there and then they've
45:45 been hit by ESAs just like you have. So
45:49 the they were the they were already the
45:51 choice takers and so a lot of the people
45:54 who took vouchers were actually in
45:57 charter schools not in district schools.
45:59 So it's been across the board and it's
46:01 had that kind of an impact. And um the
46:05 other thing that's been happening is
46:06 that we saw enrollment has been you know
46:08 basically unchanged but the structure
46:10 enroll in enrollment by grade has
46:13 changed tremendously. So if you go back
46:16 to the um get back to the beginning of
46:19 this curve back in 1999 and 2000, you
46:22 can see that 9 through 12th as a
46:24 enrollment per grade was by far the
46:26 smallest group and we had you know the
46:30 the two youngest groups had the highest
46:32 number of students per grade and now
46:34 we've gone through this complete and
46:36 full transition where you know K2
46:39 enrollment has been declining since
46:41 depending on how you count it at least
46:43 201516. 16 and then these curves
46:45 unfortunately tend to follow each other.
46:48 And so the the you know the dips that we
46:51 saw come through 6th through 8th grade
46:53 over the last 3 or four years are now
46:56 finding their way up to the high school
46:58 level. So those impacts of birth rates
47:01 and all those other things are really
47:03 just really just now causing enrollment
47:06 at the high school level statewide to
47:08 peak for the very first time ever and in
47:11 fact will fall this year. there'll be a
47:13 decrease in the number of high schoolers
47:16 uh
47:18 statewide. Uh we talked a little bit
47:20 about ESAs. This is the number of
47:22 persons uh statewide who have an uh
47:25 empowerment scholarship account. Um in
47:28 2223 is when the program was made
47:31 universal. And so in that year there was
47:34 an increase of about 19,000 students on
47:37 vouchers statewide. However, only 21% of
47:41 them were going to a public school
47:44 before. They were basically already in
47:46 private schools. They got their private
47:47 school funded. So, very small numbers
47:50 came from um public schools. And as
47:53 we've seen um it go on now, the
47:56 percentage that are coming from public
47:57 schools is getting bigger. However, the
48:00 increase this year, the the good news
48:02 maybe is that in 2425, they only added
48:06 13,000 to the program after adding
48:08 36,000 to the program the year before.
48:12 So, we're seeing a little bit of the
48:15 first signs of some saturation there,
48:17 but no matter what kind of a product you
48:19 introduced to what kind of a of a
48:21 market, there's going to be a saturation
48:23 point. The number of people who will it
48:25 will actually benefit with the ESAs. was
48:29 interesting this year. This shows the
48:31 bygrade breakdown for this year versus
48:33 last year in terms of who's on an ESA.
48:36 And the interesting part to me was the
48:38 the very little growth that they had in
48:41 kindergarten and first grade. There was
48:43 some pretty significant growth grades,
48:45 you know, first grade and second grades,
48:47 you know, internal, but again, the
48:49 beginning of the end, I think, in terms
48:51 of maybe the explosive growth in that
48:54 program. So that might be, you know,
48:55 list a little bit of something. Um, I
48:58 guess I would say for us to look forward
48:59 to, if we want to say it that way. Uh,
49:03 we'll move on now to, you know, some of
49:05 the some of the stuff that we see going
49:07 around uh in in Puma County here. And
49:10 we're going to start off with
49:11 demographics and then and then look at
49:13 some of the enrollment. I know there's a
49:14 ton of numbers in here and nobody wants
49:16 to see them uh at this time of night,
49:18 but I want you to at least see that in
49:21 the decade of the 2000s, Puma County
49:23 added 136,000 people. That's a 1.5%
49:27 annual growth rate. It's not, you know,
49:29 it's not high, but it's good growth.
49:31 It's good, steady growth. Um whereas,
49:33 you know, 58,000 then in the following
49:35 decade, you're dropping down to, you
49:38 know, basically very, very low levels of
49:40 growth. And is and even though that, you
49:43 know, doesn't itself lead to decline in
49:46 enrollment, the next part down where
49:48 I've got the colored percentages is
49:51 where the trouble's coming in. is that
49:53 that I talked about this this the
49:55 shifting of the age structure of the
49:56 population. So you can see between 2010
49:59 and 2020 the population under 18 fell in
50:03 every single age group not just didn't
50:06 grow it actually declined. So there are
50:09 fewer kids, you know, fewer school age
50:11 persons out there and bigger even more
50:15 concerning thing maybe is the under five
50:17 with a 5,000 um person drop in the last
50:21 5 years. And so that doesn't go bode
50:24 well for what's going on, you know, sort
50:26 of in the next 5 years. Um but we did
50:29 talk about birth rates, you know,
50:31 beginning to show some some sign of
50:33 stabilizing. Um the and the biggest
50:38 thing I can trace it to is the age and
50:40 what we call tenure structure of the
50:42 population the householders. So you have
50:45 owner householders and renter households
50:47 and then who's what's the age of the
50:49 head of
50:50 household and it's interesting because
50:53 you get more kiddos generally speaking
50:55 out of renter households. However, the
50:58 turnover rate is so much lower that that
51:01 they will go from, you know, three kids
51:03 and then all the kids move out and, you
51:05 know, there's a big turnover period
51:07 where they actually lose students out of
51:09 the same neighborhood. Whereas with with
51:12 uh um renter occupied housing units,
51:15 they tend to turn over faster and so the
51:17 population actually doesn't go through
51:19 that that kind of a up and down. But I
51:22 want to see growth in the 35 to 44
51:24 group. Those are the ones now that are
51:27 really driving enrollment. And with
51:30 owners and renters, there was actually
51:32 um a net decline in the number of
51:35 householders um in those
51:38 groups. We look at enrollment trends and
51:40 I broke all the districts in Pima County
51:42 into two groups and this is basically
51:45 the cumulative change in a percentage
51:48 way for every district since 2010. And I
51:51 took the what I call the established
51:53 area group where there's not a a
51:55 tremendous amount of new housing being
51:57 built. And so unfortunately you can see
52:01 that you your cumulative loss of about
52:04 25%. Um this is about this is a 13-year
52:07 period. This only went through uh 23 is
52:10 the is the highest. But you can see the
52:13 slope of the line in a lot of the other
52:15 districts is very similar. So again,
52:18 it's, you know, it's it's not you. It's
52:20 it's it's really everybody. Um, you
52:23 know, in some, you know, some uh
52:25 stabilization in flowing wells. Um, but
52:28 otherwise, all of the area is down. And
52:30 then in the ones that are, you know,
52:32 what I would call sort of emerging
52:34 areas, um, we have Morirana is the
52:37 interesting one to me because, uh,
52:39 they're building houses out there like
52:41 crazy. You know, 1,500 of them a year
52:44 and they're in Rome. it's barely barely
52:47 increasing. So there's competition and
52:49 then there's also the fact that when you
52:51 build affordable housing, it appeals to
52:52 two groups, young people and old people
52:57 for the because it's affordable and in
52:59 the case of older people, you know, any
53:00 kind of a commute is less of an issue.
53:03 So we see them kind of competing in some
53:06 places for the same kinds of housing.
53:08 Whereas you can see um Vale continues to
53:11 have solid growth. Saharita did up until
53:14 last year. Um we're actually currently
53:17 engaged on a study for Sarita to figure
53:19 out if their leveling off here is
53:22 temporary or permanent. We're about
53:24 halfway through that study um right now.
53:27 And then um you know the Tanker Verity
53:30 area has shown some enrollment growth,
53:32 but that was primarily because they
53:33 added a high school and expanded their
53:36 offerings outside their district. It
53:37 didn't really have anything to do with,
53:39 you know, demographics or anything else.
53:42 So we and we've seen the same sort of
53:44 thing happen with the grade structure in
53:46 the county that we've seen happen in the
53:48 state where if you go back a number of
53:50 years um you know the high school group
53:54 is smaller not as much differential as
53:56 at the state level but still smallest
53:58 and now by again far away biggest but
54:01 starting that going over the hill kind
54:03 of thing that we you know see coming
54:05 down the road. Um, the last thing I'm
54:08 going to talk about is what all this
54:10 means to the people who work for you,
54:12 who try to take what I do and who try to
54:15 budget and try to do facilities and try
54:17 to do transportation planning. Because
54:19 what's really gone nuts for me, I've
54:21 been doing this for 30 years, and it
54:23 used to be if I knew how many kids lived
54:25 in a neighborhood, I could tell you
54:27 almost exactly how many were going to be
54:29 at the school.
54:31 And now what we've got is a system where
54:34 um we have open enrollment um inside of
54:39 districts that can total between five
54:42 and 35% of your
54:44 students. Paradise Valley only 60% of
54:47 the kids go to the school they're
54:48 designated to go to. So we've got that
54:51 movement. Then we've got movement
54:54 between actual public school districts.
54:56 So forget about charters and the
54:58 privates. And that can be five to 50% of
55:02 enrollment, which is just movement
55:04 between, you know, public school
55:06 districts. And then to top it all off,
55:09 we've got right now
55:11 29% of all enrollment in the state in
55:15 charters and private and homeschooling.
55:18 I left homeschooling off that, but
55:20 that's included in that number as well.
55:22 So you can see the you know the range of
55:24 these things and the number of factors
55:26 that take us from here's our school age
55:28 population to here's her how many
55:30 students I have at school
55:32 X and I have a diagram for it and it
55:35 starts out at the top where here's the
55:37 here's the district school age
55:39 population and then outgo the kids
55:42 you're not serving and then we have this
55:45 concept called attendance areas that we
55:48 lay on top of everything and we decide
55:50 how many kids should be in those and
55:52 then they move. That's what the circle
55:54 is that even once you do the attendance
55:55 areas that doesn't tell you the schools.
55:57 You have to track that
55:59 relationship. Um and then right at the
56:02 end you get out of district students
56:05 come into the school. And so every
56:08 single layer of these things introduces
56:11 um a little bit of doubt or a little bit
56:14 of error into the practice of projecting
56:17 enrollment by school. And it does make
56:19 the people that work for you um it it
56:22 makes their job a lot harder. Not that
56:24 we shouldn't do it. I'm just saying it
56:26 has added a complicating factor to
56:28 everything that we
56:29 do. So, you know, in in summary, um the
56:33 state's population um has and will
56:35 probably continue to grow uh
56:37 significantly. I'm worried about our
56:39 loss of competitiveness in our housing
56:42 prices. I'm worried that it's going to
56:44 have economic development impacts going
56:46 down the road. Um we saw the state
56:49 population under 18 has not changed in
56:51 the in the last 15 years and isn't going
56:54 to grow quickly you know after that it
56:56 will grow some uh but not that you know
56:59 not that quickly. Um totally publicly
57:02 funded K12 enrollment uh still isn't
57:04 back to the you know isn't back to great
57:06 re levels before the great recession and
57:09 hasn't increased at all in the last 10
57:11 years. um in in Italy over the last 14
57:15 years there's been 118,000
57:19 um increase in charter school enrollment
57:22 and a 91,000 loss of district
57:25 enrollment. So very little net change,
57:28 but you know, like I said, taking that
57:30 same size pie and cutting it into more
57:32 pieces. We see the grade level shifting
57:35 right along with the birth rates and
57:36 right along with the population
57:38 characteristics. And that's something
57:40 that we're all just going to have to
57:41 deal with. You know, like I said, at
57:43 least at the state level, I'm kind of
57:45 looking for the bottom. And when you see
57:47 the number of births actually stop going
57:49 down, I'm thinking, well, if we get a
57:51 little bit of growth, people move in on
57:52 top of that base, maybe we'll start to
57:54 see it back up. But at the state level,
57:57 I think we're pretty much there. But I'm
57:59 concerned you might not quite be there
58:01 yet.
58:02 Um um and then the share of the school
58:05 age population um served by non-district
58:08 providers is beginning is continuing to
58:11 grow. Um it had kind of almost capped
58:13 the charters. You know there there was
58:15 there was an appeal there then the ESAs
58:17 came in and then of course COVID and the
58:20 interesting thing we're still doing
58:22 research right now trying to figure out
58:23 where the kids went because there's
58:25 still three or four% of the of the
58:26 school age population that essentially
58:28 missing from the system. And so there's
58:32 a lot more going on in terms of
58:34 homeschooling. Think about all the money
58:36 that was put into these online programs
58:38 and what and people forming with the
58:40 vouchers now what we call pods. So three
58:43 or four of us get together and we form
58:45 our own little school and we educate
58:46 each other's kids. So now there's just
58:49 all kinds of more you know options out
58:51 there unfortunately. So I hope I didn't
58:53 take too much time. I wanted to give you
58:55 an idea of the environment you're in and
58:58 um I'm happy to take any questions of
59:00 course. Thank you, Mr. Bremer. Does um
59:02 any governing board member have any
59:04 questions, Madam President? Yes, Miss
59:07 Shaw. Thank you. Thanks for your
59:09 presentation. Um I appreciate the data.
59:11 Um but I still don't think that we're
59:13 off the hook in regards to um you know,
59:16 the factors that have led to our
59:19 enrollment other than the drop in birth
59:21 rates. um if you can uh talk a little
59:25 bit about why you're estimating that
59:28 Arizona's population
59:30 um under 18 will increase in 2035. I
59:33 don't know if we could go back to that
59:34 slide but um we probably can and it'll
59:36 take a minute and those aren't a just to
59:38 make it clear those are projections by
59:40 the state demographer. Okay. Yeah. Cuz
59:42 considering like the trend of birth
59:44 rates I was surprised to see then 2035
59:47 through 2050 that like there would be an
59:50 uptick. Right. And I and I was saying
59:52 that the you know the looks like the
59:54 number of births statewide has bottomed
59:56 out. And when you couple that with the
59:58 fact that right now we're experiencing 2
1:00:00 to 3% growth in the population
1:00:02 statewide. I think that's where that
1:00:04 comes from. It has to build on itself
1:00:07 over a number of years. You're looking
1:00:09 at a 30-year period there. So we're
1:00:11 taking taking a long time to gain back
1:00:13 relatively little. Okay. Thank you. Yep.
1:00:18 Anybody else?
1:00:20 Thank you, Mr. Browmer. Thank you for
1:00:22 having me. Appreciate
1:00:28 [Applause]
1:00:31 it. Uh, next we'll move on to item 8.1
1:00:35 that is the approval of the
1:00:37 intergovernmental agreement between the
1:00:39 city of Tucson and the Tucson Unified
1:00:41 School District to integrate TSD
1:00:43 dispatchers into the public safety
1:00:45 communications department. Dr.
1:00:49 President Extra, members of the
1:00:50 governing board, tonight's a big win for
1:00:52 student and staff safety across the
1:00:53 district. Um, our dispatchers, our
1:00:55 hardworking dispatchers and school
1:00:57 safety have been invited um to join the
1:01:00 city of of Tucson's public safety
1:01:02 response team at the public safety
1:01:04 communications department. And so here
1:01:06 to walk us through the item is our
1:01:08 director for school safety, Joe Helms.
1:01:10 And then we have a guest from the city
1:01:12 of Tucson, William Fitzgerald. He is the
1:01:15 city's uh public safety communications
1:01:17 department administrator. Gentlemen,
1:01:20 thank you. Dr. Jill, well, good evening,
1:01:22 President Extrom, Governor, Newport
1:01:23 members, Dr. Drew and Council Ross.
1:01:26 Yeah, we come to here with uh in front
1:01:27 of you with a great opportunity that uh
1:01:30 and very excited about the potential of
1:01:32 our dispatchers within school safety
1:01:34 being able to move in and be housed
1:01:36 directly with uh the public safety dis
1:01:38 communic dispatch department uh of the
1:01:41 city of Tucson. Um it I'm going to turn
1:01:44 this over to them in the spirit of
1:01:46 direct line communication because that's
1:01:48 really what this comes down to, right?
1:01:50 In addition to the 40,000 students and
1:01:52 6,500 staff members that we serve on a
1:01:54 day-to-day basis within school safety,
1:01:56 we're overall responsible for the 24/7
1:01:59 coverage of this entire district, which
1:02:01 spans around, as you all know, around
1:02:02 230 square miles and more than 100 sites
1:02:05 that we cover. Um, and during all of
1:02:07 that, whether it be students and staff
1:02:09 in the classroom or that 2:00 in the
1:02:12 morning on a Tuesday night, our direct
1:02:14 line of communication with our public
1:02:16 safety entities out there to help
1:02:18 support them and they support us is
1:02:20 absolutely critical. Uh, the worst thing
1:02:22 that can happen is a breakdown in
1:02:24 communication during a critical
1:02:25 incident. Uh and this is really going to
1:02:27 elevate that opportunity to ensure that
1:02:29 that kind of thing doesn't happen to
1:02:30 ensure that those we're not putting
1:02:32 schools on lockdown that don't know
1:02:33 don't need to be or that we're not
1:02:35 initiating some kind of protocol that
1:02:36 should have been uh initiated because we
1:02:39 weren't aware of the situation. So again
1:02:42 in the spirit of that I'm actually going
1:02:43 to turn it over to uh Mr. Fitzgerald and
1:02:45 also um Mr. Mark King. He's from our
1:02:48 team. He's our he oversees our
1:02:51 communication and analytics uh within
1:02:53 school safety. Hopefully you've all had
1:02:54 an opportunity to meet him. So Mark, do
1:02:57 you want to take it
1:03:01 away? Good evening, governing board
1:03:04 president Luna
1:03:06 Rose. Uh Dr. Tree Hill, Council Ross,
1:03:10 everyone in
1:03:11 attendance. I'm Mark King up from school
1:03:13 safety. I am the
1:03:17 uh dispatch supervisor and safety
1:03:19 analysis for the district. and we have
1:03:21 uh come to you for an
1:03:24 opportunity for us to relocate and
1:03:27 integrate with the uh city of Tucson
1:03:31 public safety communications department.
1:03:38 So with this integration, it's going to
1:03:41 create a real
1:03:42 unified communication system with first
1:03:44 responders, including fire department,
1:03:47 EMS, local law enforcement, and other
1:03:50 agencies over at the
1:03:53 PSC. Uh it's going to enhance emergency
1:03:55 response capabilities. it it's going to
1:03:58 close that critical gap that we have
1:04:00 between our first responders when an
1:04:03 incident occurs and we got to
1:04:04 communicate uh real time between us and
1:04:07 first responders
1:04:12 uh within
1:04:13 the uh presented to you. There's a
1:04:17 couple of key provisions I'd like to
1:04:19 point out. First is uh the IG will
1:04:22 comply with FURPA and HIPPA regulations.
1:04:24 Both parties agree that uh shared data
1:04:27 will be used exclusively for extingent
1:04:30 circumstances purposes and will not be
1:04:33 disclosed without authorization as
1:04:35 permitted under FURPA ensuring the
1:04:37 protection of student and staff. Uh this
1:04:41 uh J was closely reviewed by both the
1:04:43 city of Tucson attorneys as well as
1:04:46 councelor Ross to ensure that the fur
1:04:50 and HIPPA was taken into consideration.
1:04:52 It also includes two state-of-the-art
1:04:55 dispatch workstations that's fully
1:04:57 equipped. That's going to be provided by
1:04:58 PSCD uh which we'll go over uh here in a
1:05:02 few
1:05:03 minutes. Also to include a remote
1:05:05 dispatch supervisor office as well as
1:05:08 direct access to the SEARC, the
1:05:10 community safety awareness and response
1:05:12 center. That's a uh center that they
1:05:17 manage uh critical incidents. Uh they
1:05:19 also uh provide analytics for video feed
1:05:23 uh body cameras uh anything that can
1:05:27 provide information quick and fast and
1:05:30 accurate to help with uh getting that to
1:05:33 the first responders to service the
1:05:35 community better and efficiently.
1:05:44 Uh I laid out a couple benefits of the
1:05:46 integration
1:05:49 uh seamless coordination between us and
1:05:52 the uh first responders uh being housed
1:05:55 with them. It's going to give us direct
1:05:58 uh communication with them so we can
1:06:00 provide direct communication to the
1:06:02 staff and community of the schools and
1:06:04 the students. uh real time information,
1:06:08 real-time threats, movements,
1:06:10 uh and and so forth like that to provide
1:06:13 accurate information for them so they
1:06:14 can make the appropriate determination
1:06:16 whether they need to stay in lockdown,
1:06:18 stay in secure, they can uh release and
1:06:21 so forth.
1:06:23 uh next level security and safety uh
1:06:26 real-time alerts with the Centiggics uh
1:06:28 pro platform that we are integrating
1:06:31 with all of our schools uh through the
1:06:33 Brown Bond uh through the not the bond
1:06:36 program but uh through uh PSC and other
1:06:39 local PAPs uh public safety answering
1:06:42 points. So being housed in the same
1:06:44 facility with them would just uh swiftly
1:06:47 rapid uh communicate that uh alert to
1:06:51 them.
1:06:54 again with that seaark with the uh
1:06:56 analytics analytics that it can provide
1:07:00 uh cutting edge technology uh within
1:07:02 that sea
1:07:04 sources. Uh we currently use Axon body
1:07:08 cameras and axon tasers. So we can
1:07:11 actually integrate our Axon body cameras
1:07:13 with their Axon fuses and if a officer
1:07:18 responds to an incident and that um site
1:07:22 doesn't have cameras which about 33% of
1:07:26 our sites have cameras and that's it. So
1:07:30 if an officer responds and we need video
1:07:33 footage of that uh incident live stream,
1:07:36 uh we can tap into the body cameras from
1:07:39 that station from the Axon Fus
1:07:42 uh on-site tech support uh over there uh
1:07:47 uh 24/7.
1:07:52 Um the
1:07:54 the puma uh the public safety
1:07:57 communications department houses 13
1:07:59 entities. Uh they're all listed right
1:08:02 there. There are uh nine different fire
1:08:04 department fire departments. Uh
1:08:06 University of Arizona EMS uh as well as
1:08:10 uh Tucson Police Department. Uh they
1:08:13 also have the capability of doing uh CAD
1:08:15 to CAD. CAD meaning computer automative
1:08:17 dispatch. That's what we utilize to
1:08:20 record events, dispatch patrols and and
1:08:24 do timestamps and record everything. Uh
1:08:27 they have the capability of their CAT
1:08:29 system uh sending information directly
1:08:31 to other agencies i.e. uh Puma County
1:08:34 and so forth.
1:08:37 uh maintenance uh maximize cost
1:08:39 efficiency uh within IG there's no cost
1:08:42 to utilize their
1:08:44 facility and there there is a free
1:08:46 initial and ongoing training with our
1:08:49 dispatchers
1:08:50 uh with with that being said
1:08:53 uh that that is a key uh uh benefit for
1:08:58 us because I I I'm a strong believer of
1:09:01 uh training for proficiency. There's no
1:09:03 way to be proficient in a job,
1:09:04 especially as a critical position of a
1:09:06 dispatcher unless you're trained to that
1:09:09 proficiency. And having that free
1:09:11 initial and ongoing training within that
1:09:14 IGA
1:09:15 uh helps with
1:09:17 that. Uh uh building public trust
1:09:22 uh is is my big factor right here. Um
1:09:27 uh we will ensure the community that
1:09:30 we're building that trust with our local
1:09:34 uh community partners for first
1:09:35 responders to ensure their safety of our
1:09:38 staff and their students our priority.
1:09:44 Uh we we experience gaps in our
1:09:49 communication uh very frequently more
1:09:52 than what we would like to. I did a real
1:09:56 scenario for you. Um the incident was a
1:10:01 uh armed individual was in the vicinity
1:10:03 of a
1:10:05 school
1:10:07 and instantly they thought to be
1:10:10 detained and that's what information we
1:10:12 was provided by a third party
1:10:14 information and we were trying to
1:10:16 coordinate and communicate with local
1:10:18 responders to verify that. uh through
1:10:20 this whole incident uh that individual
1:10:23 was actually being monitored by local
1:10:26 authorities. The gap uh the school
1:10:28 received inaccurate information and
1:10:30 there was no direct communication with
1:10:32 first
1:10:33 responders and then students was nearly
1:10:35 released while the suspect remained
1:10:37 active in that area. Uh with this
1:10:39 integration, it would have prevented uh
1:10:42 any type of miscommunication and updates
1:10:45 on weapon status and the suspect
1:10:47 movement uh instant alerts for
1:10:51 escalating or changing of threats. So we
1:10:54 can provide that to the staff on
1:10:57 site and then obviously with that
1:10:59 accurate intel we can determine uh what
1:11:02 protocols to use whether it's a lock
1:11:04 down secure or uh we if we can release
1:11:07 the students if it's safe to do
1:11:11 that. Uh I've gathe g gathered some data
1:11:14 to show you uh from 2023 to 2024 on the
1:11:18 right side uh the total service request
1:11:21 uh we've had about 8,900
1:11:24 uh for that school year for that for
1:11:27 that 8,900 about 11 thou or about 1,000
1:11:31 calls was coordinated with the public
1:11:33 safety communications department whether
1:11:35 that's EMS fire or local authorities. So
1:11:38 that's about 11% of our calls that we
1:11:41 receive in our dispatch center. We have
1:11:43 to coordinate with local authorities or
1:11:45 local responders. That's uh one in every
1:11:48 nine service calls if uh we break it
1:11:50 down like that. And on the left uh for
1:11:53 this school year up until up until March
1:11:55 18th
1:11:57 uh we've had a total of about 6,000. Of
1:12:00 those 6,000, uh, we've experienced about
1:12:03 724 calls with the public safety
1:12:05 communications department, which is
1:12:07 about 12% of our
1:12:18 calls. Yeah. So, there's definitely
1:12:20 going to be some cost associated with
1:12:21 this, but fortunately, uh, the public
1:12:23 safety dispatch center does have been
1:12:25 able to recognize a grant that, uh,
1:12:27 we're able to use. uh the initial cost
1:12:29 would be significant uh to the school
1:12:31 district but again uh working with Mr.
1:12:33 Fitzgerald and his team they've been
1:12:34 able to identify that this grant they've
1:12:36 identified which will pay for that first
1:12:37 year. So there will be zero cost uh that
1:12:40 zero cost will be insur will uh provide
1:12:42 us all that initial training including
1:12:44 moving costs uh and getting all those
1:12:46 initial uh CAD access that we need. Uh
1:12:50 additionally you know in subsequent
1:12:52 years there will be an additional cost
1:12:53 associated with that of course uh but
1:12:55 most of that that cost will be realized
1:12:57 within the current school safety um uh
1:13:00 budget uh i.e. We're already having to
1:13:03 pay for some of these systems already
1:13:04 with in-house. This will be taken over
1:13:06 by them. Uh so, as we can kind of see
1:13:09 here, year one, uh this is what we
1:13:11 currently pay, uh about $15,000 a year
1:13:13 for our current CAD system, which would
1:13:15 equates to about $75,000 over 5 years.
1:13:18 Um again, moving back over there, we
1:13:22 will pay additional cost. Uh you know,
1:13:24 the overall cost over the five years is
1:13:26 around $80,000, which is about obviously
1:13:28 $6,000 more. However, we're look we're
1:13:30 realizing uh over $100,000 in savings uh
1:13:34 with getting that additional training
1:13:35 and so on and so forth. One of the
1:13:37 things that's really critical in this is
1:13:39 the city of Tucson and many of the other
1:13:40 uh public safety entities are also
1:13:42 currently going to a encrypted radio
1:13:45 system. Uh the cost of those radios is
1:13:47 significant that in order for us to be
1:13:49 able to be able to communicate directly
1:13:51 with them uh the officers on the street,
1:13:53 we would have to upgrade to those which
1:13:54 be a significant cost uh to the school
1:13:56 district that we're just not in position
1:13:58 at least within school safety to do. So
1:14:01 this is what we currently have. Uh many
1:14:03 of you have already had opportunity to
1:14:04 come visit us. Uh this is what we
1:14:06 currently look like on the left.
1:14:07 Albert's a great guy. They work really
1:14:09 hard. However, on the right you can see
1:14:11 just much more advanced technology. um
1:14:14 many more opportunities to kind of
1:14:16 realize what's going on, more
1:14:17 information that they can gather and
1:14:19 more information that they can share not
1:14:21 only internally but obviously again with
1:14:22 those public safety entities that we
1:14:24 work with on a day-to-day
1:14:26 basis. So again, zero cost to initially
1:14:29 move over um you know we'll have to have
1:14:32 direct access. It's literally uh talking
1:14:34 to the people within that dispatch
1:14:35 center to ensure that we're getting real
1:14:37 time uh true information that we can
1:14:39 convey to our people that are having to
1:14:41 respond to those uh state-of-the-art
1:14:43 call centers and um you know just that
1:14:45 continual collaboration again elevating
1:14:47 those services that we provide uh to the
1:14:49 students and staff of the Tucson Unified
1:14:51 School District and ensuring that we're
1:14:53 we're maintaining the safest possible uh
1:14:55 environments out there. So with that,
1:14:58 we'll be happy to answer any questions.
1:15:02 Governing board members, any questions?
1:15:05 Yes, Miss Luna Rose. Thank you. Thank
1:15:07 you, Mr. Hollis. Good to see you. Um I
1:15:11 Well, one comment and then one question
1:15:14 comment that I'm I'm happy to see this
1:15:16 integration just because I think that's
1:15:18 been a common complaint among the board,
1:15:21 but as well as parents. So, um I think
1:15:24 this will will um intertwine nicely. Um,
1:15:29 so I'm I'm glad we're uh you're coming
1:15:31 to us to take this step, but my question
1:15:33 is, and maybe this is more for Mr. Ross.
1:15:35 I just want to make sure that um no
1:15:38 student um uh records or information
1:15:43 would be violated. I know that Furpa is
1:15:45 mentioned in this, but I just want to
1:15:47 make sure that that this has been vetted
1:15:50 well enough that I'd feel comfortable me
1:15:52 approving this this evening. Yes, board
1:15:54 members. Thank you, Miss Luna Rose. If
1:15:56 you look at section five, I don't think
1:15:57 your mic's on. Yeah, it is. Is it? Okay.
1:16:00 Yeah, maybe I'm not on. Um section five
1:16:03 of this agreement was what I I focused
1:16:06 quite a bit on um in order to make sure
1:16:09 that um if we're going to be sharing
1:16:11 information that it's under a furpa
1:16:13 exception and Mr. King referenced
1:16:15 exigent circumstances. So if there's an
1:16:17 emergency, then you know we're calling
1:16:19 law enforcement anyway. Now we're
1:16:22 eliminating that gap of us calling law
1:16:25 enforcement. It's all going to be there.
1:16:27 The same information would be passed
1:16:28 along in an emergency. The other thing
1:16:31 that that I wanted to make sure that we
1:16:34 um connected on is in section five and
1:16:36 that's um I was concerned about public
1:16:39 records releases uh because I know we
1:16:42 see um we see public records information
1:16:45 coming out of dispatch centers and I
1:16:48 wanted to make sure that our legal
1:16:50 department was going to be consulted
1:16:53 before anything goes out from from the
1:16:55 the consolidated uh department. So
1:16:58 section five I I did quite a bit of u
1:17:01 thinking on that and working with uh
1:17:04 with the other parties so that we could
1:17:06 I was comfortable with with making sure
1:17:09 that confidentiality is going to um
1:17:11 remain where it should unless there's an
1:17:13 emergency situation. Great. Thank you. I
1:17:17 have a couple of questions. I'm
1:17:19 concerned with
1:17:21 um with ICE and everything going on with
1:17:24 that, how they would be
1:17:27 able or TPD would be able to give out
1:17:30 student information
1:17:33 um and that sort of
1:17:36 thing because right now I'm not
1:17:38 comfortable with this. So again, if if
1:17:41 we are we're talking about situations
1:17:43 where the district is communicating with
1:17:45 law enforcement anyway, so you know,
1:17:49 it's it's going to be this the same type
1:17:51 of communication except much shorter. Um
1:17:54 I don't think ICE is involved in this
1:17:56 center at all. So but will TPD or
1:18:00 sheriff's department or any department
1:18:02 have access to our student records?
1:18:06 No more access than they would have
1:18:08 today, i.e. during a critical situation.
1:18:10 I mean, worst case scenarios that we can
1:18:12 think of, right? You're going to be
1:18:14 sharing all that information, any way to
1:18:16 to manage the situation. Um, within
1:18:19 this, uh, Mr. Ross and the city
1:18:22 attorneys were very careful to ensuring
1:18:23 because on their side of things, they
1:18:25 have information that we don't have
1:18:26 access to either, right? They're they're
1:18:28 sworn law enforcement, fire department.
1:18:31 Uh, so they have certain records that
1:18:32 they can't share with us. Uh, so there's
1:18:35 a little physical separation within
1:18:37 their building. actually have a very
1:18:38 large building and we're on way side one
1:18:40 far side of it um uh close enough where
1:18:43 we can have that communication
1:18:45 especially through a supervisor but
1:18:47 ensuring that that that uh that data is
1:18:49 not going to be shared on an ongoing
1:18:50 basis. So there there is uh processes in
1:18:54 place, checks and balances to ensure
1:18:56 that information is not shared unless
1:18:57 it's elevates to that critical situation
1:19:00 at which time it's our decision to make
1:19:01 that right whether it be whatever kind
1:19:03 of information we're sharing. This is
1:19:05 going to be solely uh on the school
1:19:07 district and in consultation with our
1:19:09 superintendent and our legal counsel and
1:19:11 ensure that that information could be
1:19:12 shared. So they won't have synergy
1:19:14 access. No. and and just like we won't
1:19:18 have access to whatever those fancy
1:19:21 systems are that law enforcement has
1:19:22 unless they want to provide that to us.
1:19:25 So unless there's a warrant, then they
1:19:27 would contact your office and then go
1:19:28 from there. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Same
1:19:31 process. And one real critical thing I
1:19:33 think that really needs to be
1:19:34 highlighted is the Tucson Police
1:19:35 Department's only one aspect of this.
1:19:37 You know, we mentioned those 13
1:19:38 agencies, but in addition to those
1:19:39 public safety entities, most of them are
1:19:41 fire departments. Um is a suicide
1:19:43 hotline as well. So this I mean just our
1:19:46 availability to provide those services
1:19:48 on an extremely timely situations um
1:19:52 just it's just a fantastic opportunity
1:19:54 that we have in front of us I believe
1:19:56 and I completely understand that but you
1:19:58 have to look at it from my point of view
1:20:00 and the concerns that I get from the
1:20:02 community about the sharing of
1:20:04 information of our students and our
1:20:06 parents and how concerned they are that
1:20:09 other entities could have access to
1:20:11 their data. Yeah, I totally understand
1:20:13 that. I'll just uh repeat that yet those
1:20:15 uh we we ensure that we outline that
1:20:17 within our intergovernmental agreement
1:20:19 and then those checks are imbalances to
1:20:21 make sure that that that information is
1:20:22 not shared on an ongoing basis unless
1:20:24 it's a critical situation. Governing
1:20:26 board members, Miss Shaw,
1:20:30 thank you for the presentation. Um I
1:20:32 share your concern, Miss Extramm. Um I
1:20:36 think the beautiful thing about our
1:20:37 school safety department is that it is
1:20:39 independent and that um the board can
1:20:42 control it and oversee it and I worry
1:20:44 that um with this IGA we would um you
1:20:48 know be inviting a higher presence of
1:20:50 law enforcement on our campus.
1:20:53 Um and so with that I do have some
1:20:57 comments and questions.
1:21:01 Um, first, uh, when TUSD school safety
1:21:05 department, uh, needs backup from TPD,
1:21:08 um, or the sheriff's department or fire,
1:21:10 uh, do they call 911 or do they have a
1:21:12 direct line? They call 911. Okay. Um,
1:21:17 cuz I've heard that like at times when
1:21:19 we do need backup, sometimes they show
1:21:21 up, sometimes they don't. Um, and I'm
1:21:24 wondering if like even if we are um we
1:21:27 move forward with this IGA like um in
1:21:30 light of like the staff shortage uh with
1:21:32 TPD like are we is that that's this is
1:21:35 not even a guarantee that we'll have
1:21:37 them there when we need them. And you
1:21:40 know I don't want to go too far into the
1:21:41 weeds so I'd invite Mr. Fitzgerald but I
1:21:43 want to be timely with this. You know
1:21:45 they elevate different calls for
1:21:46 different priorities uh one through
1:21:48 five. Um and that's all based on the
1:21:50 information that they get. So if they're
1:21:52 not getting the real-time information
1:21:53 about how this situation that we're
1:21:55 dealing with has been elevated and
1:21:56 there's that gap in information, they're
1:21:58 not going to elevate it and make it more
1:22:00 of a priority for them. So, we've had
1:22:02 those situations where we've had and I
1:22:04 can think of one off top of my head that
1:22:07 uh I think a principal in here may have
1:22:09 also shared with but you know it was a
1:22:11 critical situation where it really got
1:22:12 elevated really fast but because of that
1:22:15 breakdown in communication between us
1:22:17 then I'm you know basically right now
1:22:18 it's officer going to a dispatcher
1:22:20 dispatcher going to another dispatcher
1:22:22 then going out there this will kind of
1:22:23 streamline that information we're
1:22:25 sharing that real time
1:22:27 right yeah um and I know there's so many
1:22:30 variables that have contributed to all
1:22:32 of these issues. And um what I've heard
1:22:35 over the years in the community and also
1:22:37 um with uh what Prop 414 brought to
1:22:41 light as far as like the existing issues
1:22:44 in like the dispatch of the city of
1:22:46 Tucson system. Um and seeing that there
1:22:50 are 13 agencies that are already there,
1:22:52 I'm just wondering if you know they can
1:22:54 handle us to integrate into them and
1:22:57 like seems like we're doing okay. I know
1:23:00 our school safety team like you know
1:23:03 rises to the occasion when they need to
1:23:05 and so I'm not sure if this is uh
1:23:08 completely necessary at this
1:23:11 moment. Um if we do go forward with this
1:23:14 IGA will this trigger any reduction in
1:23:17 our school safety staff? No,
1:23:22 not at all. Not at all. Okay. And how
1:23:24 many people do we have now for dispatch
1:23:26 at dispatch? Yeah. Six. Yeah. Currently
1:23:29 we have six providing 24/7 coverage. So
1:23:32 little lean.
1:23:33 Okay. Definitely wouldn't be going down.
1:23:36 I see. And would those six TUSD staff
1:23:39 members have their own room or like what
1:23:41 does that look like? I know we saw the
1:23:43 image but like does each agency have
1:23:46 their little space.
1:23:49 Uh good evening Dr. Trillo, President
1:23:52 Extramm and members of the board. Yeah.
1:23:55 So just for the overall situation of our
1:23:58 public safety communications department,
1:24:01 we're not just police. Police is a small
1:24:04 component of it. And we're doing this
1:24:07 bringing out a lot of outside agencies
1:24:10 as part of our department. For example,
1:24:13 a lot of times people in the community
1:24:15 don't need a police officer and don't
1:24:17 need a firefighter. They need mental
1:24:19 health. So we have a whole section of
1:24:21 our facility on mental health. We don't
1:24:23 get access to any of that information.
1:24:25 It's walled off and they operate
1:24:28 independently. We're doing the same
1:24:30 thing with TUSD. They're going to be
1:24:32 operating just like they were before.
1:24:35 We're not going to be involved in any
1:24:38 way except for providing the equipment
1:24:40 and training um on the latest dispatch
1:24:43 procedures that um we offer to our
1:24:46 classes anyway as people are coming
1:24:48 through. But there'll be no additional
1:24:50 involvement from us unless it's
1:24:52 requested. So, for example, if there is
1:24:55 a call that they're not TPD isn't
1:24:59 responding quick enough, well, maybe
1:25:03 that call is a priority level five,
1:25:05 which is going to get a a delayed
1:25:06 response because of the, you know, lack
1:25:10 of resources or how busy TPD is. But
1:25:13 there may be something that the TUSD
1:25:15 dispatchers could say, "Hey, you guys
1:25:17 are missing this and now it's a
1:25:19 priority, too." and that triggers an
1:25:21 immediate response from TPD. So, it's
1:25:23 that information um sharing that will
1:25:26 get a more effective response. Um and if
1:25:29 there is something major, then we have a
1:25:32 real-time crime center, which we call
1:25:34 the community safety awareness center
1:25:37 cuz it's not really just a real-time
1:25:39 crime center. It's we have our water
1:25:41 department. We have all different
1:25:43 agencies that are going to be mixing in
1:25:45 just for information. So, it's something
1:25:47 we have set up now. We have other
1:25:49 agencies, but they manage themselves.
1:25:51 We're just providing the roof, some
1:25:53 training, and some equipment.
1:26:00 Thank you for the information.
1:26:03 Um, yeah. I mean, I know we we spoke
1:26:06 already about um some of the gaps in
1:26:09 information and all of that and and like
1:26:12 lack of
1:26:14 um I don't know certain agencies showing
1:26:18 up um when needed. Um, and I know some
1:26:21 of this is just and like staffing
1:26:24 issues, some is other things and it's
1:26:27 not always a fault of our district, but
1:26:29 maybe just a um maybe they don't realize
1:26:32 that there's a school in the area where
1:26:34 there's a suspect who is um um like
1:26:38 roaming around. And so I think we can
1:26:40 just be smarter about like you know your
1:26:44 agency knowing where our schools are.
1:26:47 Um, I'm really hesitant to vote for this
1:26:49 at this time knowing that like we're
1:26:52 doing okay where where our dispatch is
1:26:55 now and um I think the improvements that
1:26:57 can be made are just um you know
1:27:00 logistical things and opening up those
1:27:02 communication channels. I I do worry
1:27:04 about the sharing of data um and also
1:27:08 the potential increase in like law
1:27:11 enforcement at some of our schools. Um,
1:27:15 so yeah. Thank you,
1:27:19 Miss Laros.
1:27:22 Thank Can I get it? Okay, here we go.
1:27:25 Uh, my question is concerning funding.
1:27:28 Now, you said that this first year was
1:27:31 covered by the grant. So you would have
1:27:34 to come back next year to for
1:27:39 um if I'm looking at this
1:27:43 correctly after one year the CAD beat
1:27:45 maintenance but you said this would come
1:27:47 out of department your department
1:27:49 funding correct okay so you don't
1:27:52 foresee coming to the board
1:27:54 to for further um no we're talking about
1:27:58 $6,000 over five years I think we can
1:28:00 leverage some you know shifts and
1:28:03 priorities ities to ensure that we can
1:28:04 cover that. Okay. All right. Thank
1:28:08 you. Any other discussion or
1:28:13 questions? Do I hear a motion? I'll move
1:28:16 the item. Second. There's a motion by
1:28:19 Miss Luna Rose, second by Mr. Romero.
1:28:22 Uh, roll call, please.
1:28:26 Mr. Romero. Yes. Dr. Robbie. Yes. Miss
1:28:30 Rose. Yes. Miss Shaw, no. Miss Extra,
1:28:35 no. Motion passes 3 to two. Thank you.
1:28:40 Thank you.
1:28:44 Uh, next we'll move on to call to the
1:28:46 audience. Dr. Shaw.
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1:30:14 information. All right. So, tonight we
1:30:16 have five in-person speakers. We'll
1:30:18 start with Mr. Michael Conrad, followed
1:30:20 by Fio Azizi, Jim Brin, uh Lillian Fox,
1:30:24 and then Pil A
1:30:32 Costa. Good evening, Madame President,
1:30:34 members of the board. My name is Michael
1:30:36 Conrad. I'm here tonight to make a plea
1:30:39 for your advocacy for school
1:30:41 administrators. Our school-based
1:30:44 administrators are underpaid an average
1:30:45 of $10,000 a year compared to other
1:30:48 nearby districts. And I'd like to give
1:30:50 you some background this evening as to
1:30:52 why your advocacy in particular is so
1:30:55 necessary. My student teaching was here
1:30:58 in TUSD. Uh I was a proud teacher and
1:31:01 member of TEA. I taught at a school I
1:31:04 loved in a district I loved. Uh
1:31:06 supported and encouraged by a community
1:31:08 of professionals that surrounded me to
1:31:10 help me in my work.
1:31:12 Whatever our pay, whatever difficulties
1:31:14 we faced, I always knew that our
1:31:16 governing board, my principal, and my
1:31:18 colleagues and my entire community
1:31:20 supported me in the work that I did. I
1:31:23 earned my master's degree and got my
1:31:24 administrator's certificate, hoping to
1:31:26 take my love of teaching to a level
1:31:28 where I could impact a wider range of
1:31:32 students. I was shocked by a few things
1:31:34 when I went into administration. I was
1:31:37 shocked that for the first time there
1:31:39 were people who hated me simply because
1:31:41 of the title of my job. I was shocked
1:31:44 that for the first time there were
1:31:48 uh no level of effort or minutes that I
1:31:52 could put in or hours that I could put
1:31:54 in in any particular day to finish the
1:31:57 work that I had set before me. And I was
1:32:01 shocked that sometimes, no matter what
1:32:03 my fellow administrators were able to
1:32:05 accomplish, successes were often
1:32:07 minimally
1:32:09 acknowledged while failures became
1:32:11 career-ending
1:32:12 events. Despite all that, I loved every
1:32:15 school that I served in. Um, I loved the
1:32:18 work that I did. I was lucky enough to
1:32:21 take a turn working in central office
1:32:23 and uh got to see behind the scenes and
1:32:26 and help chart the course of our
1:32:27 district. And while I enjoyed that,
1:32:30 after four years I was able to return to
1:32:32 uh site principal ship and must say that
1:32:35 I found more joy being able to work
1:32:37 directly with students and
1:32:39 teachers. Our entire focus as
1:32:42 administrators is the support of our
1:32:45 teachers and the students that they work
1:32:47 with day-to-day. We advocate for them.
1:32:49 We advocate for their health and
1:32:50 well-being. We advocate for their
1:32:52 success. But we rarely advocate for
1:32:54 ourselves as administrators.
1:32:57 What you need to know is that just
1:33:00 because we're not here in force with a
1:33:03 100 voices to speak out about the
1:33:06 inequities facing us,
1:33:09 uh it's because our entire role is the
1:33:13 support of others and sometimes just
1:33:16 trying to speak up on our own behalf
1:33:18 becomes unimaginable.
1:33:20 So administrators uh have that role of
1:33:24 support for everyone. And even standing
1:33:27 here with a positive recital of my
1:33:29 experiences within our district, asking
1:33:31 for your help in closing that $10,000
1:33:33 wage gap can seem like a betrayal. So
1:33:36 time. Thank you for your advocacy.
1:33:43 Next we have Fio Azizi.
1:33:54 [Music]
1:33:56 Uh my name is Parza Zizi. Um I am a
1:34:00 community member, also a substitute
1:34:02 teacher. Uh hello to the members of the
1:34:05 board. Um, again, I'm here as a
1:34:08 substitute teacher to urge you uh to
1:34:10 push the district to stop stalling in
1:34:12 our
1:34:13 negotiations. Uh, when the board
1:34:15 recognized us last summer, we agreed to
1:34:17 come to the table ready to buy you. Uh,
1:34:19 but the administration hasn't kept their
1:34:21 end of the deal and it's been
1:34:23 disappointing. Of the extremely few
1:34:25 meetings that we've been able to
1:34:26 schedule with admin, numerous meetings
1:34:28 have been cancelled and delayed.
1:34:31 One of the stipulations of recognition
1:34:33 was that our union and administration
1:34:35 would create a joint survey for all
1:34:37 substitutes to respond
1:34:39 to. Our side of the survey was complete
1:34:42 by November 2024. The district didn't
1:34:45 fulfill their end of the survey until
1:34:47 February 26th, a whole 4 months later.
1:34:51 The contract we're negotiating is brand
1:34:52 new from the bottom up and requires more
1:34:54 time and consideration, something the
1:34:57 district isn't respecting.
1:34:59 I'm also here to ask that you advocate
1:35:01 and support a year-end stipen for
1:35:03 substitute teachers of up to $600 that
1:35:06 was approved for all other bargaining
1:35:08 units within the district. Substitutes
1:35:10 are hurting. The cost of even our most
1:35:13 basic necessities like eggs, bread,
1:35:16 meat, veggies, rent are
1:35:18 skyrocketing. This stipen would help
1:35:20 alleviate some of the strain that
1:35:22 substitute educators face daily.
1:35:25 I ask that you not leave behind
1:35:27 substitute educators. When a district
1:35:30 fails to come to the table to even meet
1:35:31 with us, we're left behind. When we fail
1:35:34 to see our hard work recognized, we're
1:35:36 left behind. Substitute educators
1:35:39 deserve a fair agreement and to be
1:35:41 included in pay stipens this year and
1:35:43 hope you can work with us to make that
1:35:45 happen.
1:35:49 Thanks, Jim Burn. Followed by Lillian
1:35:52 Fox.
1:36:02 Good evening uh governing board
1:36:04 president extramm superintendent hill
1:36:06 legal council Ross um Jim Burn president
1:36:10 tea we're proud to have substitute
1:36:12 educators in a uh
1:36:15 temporary uh agreement and
1:36:17 representation uh the the very creative
1:36:21 solution that we came to an agreement
1:36:22 upon upon last year um that we represent
1:36:26 them um condition upon a uh ratification
1:36:31 of that agreement uh is contingent upon
1:36:33 an agreement being reached. And so uh
1:36:36 you know I think we're doing good things
1:36:37 at the table. These educators are are
1:36:39 filling in in vital situations. Uh, I
1:36:42 think about the times that I have been a
1:36:45 substitute, uh, whether I was back home
1:36:46 in New York in a couple different
1:36:48 districts, um, and filling in in those
1:36:51 Florida roles, uh, to to being one here,
1:36:54 uh, starting in the juvenile detention
1:36:56 facility, um, and then knowing as a
1:36:59 classroom educator the vital role that
1:37:01 substitute educators can can play uh, in
1:37:04 emergency situations when something
1:37:06 comes up, whether that is an employee
1:37:09 uh, gets sick, there's a family
1:37:10 emergency, her my daughter uh dropped a
1:37:13 bench on her toe and bang, I had to be
1:37:15 out of there. And so the coverage that
1:37:16 our our educa our substitutes provide
1:37:19 daily for our schools and our students
1:37:22 uh is like no other job. Very few other
1:37:25 industries have floating roaming
1:37:28 substitutes that can step in and provide
1:37:31 this a continuing education that there
1:37:33 are uh lesson plans and unit plans and
1:37:35 emergency plans available so that the
1:37:38 learning can continue. Uh so seeking
1:37:40 that stipen so that uh those who qualify
1:37:43 who continue to show their commitment to
1:37:45 our classrooms continue to show the
1:37:47 commitment to TUSD day in and day out uh
1:37:50 qualify for that stipend um so that they
1:37:52 can get rewarded for their commitment uh
1:37:55 to our students and this district. So we
1:37:57 hope we can get that across the finish
1:37:59 line.
1:38:01 [Applause]
1:38:04 Thanks. Thank you. Okay, we have Lillian
1:38:06 Fox followed by Pilo Costa,
1:38:11 [Music]
1:38:13 president of the board, board members,
1:38:16 superintendent Robert Ross and Yolanda
1:38:19 Barbboa.
1:38:21 Um, I'm not going to talk about this.
1:38:24 Some misinformation was passed out in
1:38:26 the audit committee. This is what the
1:38:28 facts are on how teach TUSD teachers pay
1:38:30 compares to the Arizona average. I
1:38:32 didn't touch this graph. this from the
1:38:34 auditor general. What I am going to talk
1:38:37 about is this. We are a horrible
1:38:40 district. We're failing to educate the
1:38:42 kids. You know, we really are. It's, you
1:38:45 know, it's shameful. And the district is
1:38:48 doing virtually nothing to do anything
1:38:49 about it. We have only 27% of our kids
1:38:54 are proficient in English language arts.
1:38:56 Only 21% are proficient in math. So to
1:39:00 solve the problem, we have 12 math
1:39:03 recovery teachers total. That's it for
1:39:06 the whole district and 30 reading
1:39:08 recovery teachers. That is
1:39:11 ridiculous. You have so many kids who
1:39:13 need extra help and they're not getting
1:39:15 it. Furthermore, for our libraries this
1:39:18 year, which is what kids need in order
1:39:20 to they have to have engaging books, we
1:39:23 have budgeted
1:39:24 $4,000 for almost 40,000 kids. So, our
1:39:29 kids have 10 cents a student for library
1:39:33 books and media. Our superintendent, on
1:39:35 the other hand, the guy who makes like
1:39:37 $230,000 a year, he's budgeted $1,000 to
1:39:41 buy his books and media. That's
1:39:44 ridiculous. Now, he also um was
1:39:48 interviewed recently and claims that
1:39:50 TUSD's academic performance is better
1:39:52 now than when he was first hired. He's
1:39:55 done wonders. We are now back up better
1:39:57 than we were were before COVID. Not
1:40:00 true. The blue bars are TOSD's
1:40:04 performance. The orange bars are the
1:40:07 Arizona average performance. We are way
1:40:10 below average. As you'll see, the blue
1:40:12 bars have went way down after CO and
1:40:16 we've never gotten back up to where we
1:40:18 were with CO on English language arts.
1:40:20 The state average, they're back up to
1:40:23 what they were. On the other hand, math,
1:40:27 we're Am I done? Okay. Uh on math, we're
1:40:31 even worse. We were terrible before CO
1:40:35 and we have become truly pitiful. We've
1:40:38 got to do something to improve this.
1:40:40 Somebody told me 30% of the kids in
1:40:43 Tangangerie are TD kids. Tangverie has
1:40:47 great academic performance. We've got to
1:40:50 become competitive. We've got to start
1:40:52 educating our kids. This is a sin. when
1:40:55 our kids can't read and they can't do
1:40:56 math. I was a high school teacher here.
1:40:59 I had plenty of kids who couldn't read,
1:41:01 couldn't do any math that involved
1:41:03 fractions. That shouldn't be. We've got
1:41:06 to have the recovery teachers. We've got
1:41:08 to have the programs to help kids catch
1:41:10 up and get where they need to be. Thank
1:41:12 you.
1:41:15 Our last inerson speaker is Pilara
1:41:17 Costa.
1:41:22 Good evening. My name is Pilar Costa
1:41:24 Ruiz and I have several things I want to
1:41:26 talk about, but I'm going to start with
1:41:27 8.2. Well, actually, I'm going to start
1:41:29 with many of you were endorsed as pro
1:41:32 labor. Get the substitutes a contract.
1:41:35 Why are you dragging your feet?
1:41:38 Um, okay. So, 8.2. I'm looking at this
1:41:42 uh proposed reductions in uh positions
1:41:44 by department. I see only one assistant
1:41:47 superintendent in here uh from
1:41:50 EDI, which I think you guys have been
1:41:52 trying to get rid of for a while. Uh
1:41:54 you're trying to get rid of somebody for
1:41:56 HVAC facilities technician. We all know
1:41:58 that air conditionings break. That seems
1:42:00 like a really important position. And
1:42:02 the internal auditor, for God's sakes,
1:42:05 we it took years to get an internal
1:42:07 auditor. And because this internal
1:42:09 auditor that was just here recently got
1:42:12 pushed out for telling the truth, you're
1:42:14 now going to get rid of the position.
1:42:16 TUSD needs more transparency, not less.
1:42:19 A whole lot more. As a matter of fact,
1:42:21 when the audit charter came for a
1:42:23 proposed revision a couple months ago,
1:42:26 weeks ago, whatever it was, one of you
1:42:28 opposed it because it had the word
1:42:31 transparency in there. Again, TUSD needs
1:42:35 as much transparency as possible. Like,
1:42:38 why should we be afraid of the word
1:42:40 transparency? Um, not just because it
1:42:43 was quote your job. Um, and safety. I
1:42:47 don't know if you all heard it or how
1:42:48 recent it was, but I did see on Facebook
1:42:50 that a student, and I have advocated for
1:42:53 this from this podium before. Our kids
1:42:57 are TUSD's responsibility to get to and
1:43:00 from school for the most part safely.
1:43:04 Our bus stops are full of fentinol,
1:43:08 um, inappropriate behaving people. And,
1:43:12 uh, somebody from the Gridley Middle
1:43:14 School just got assaulted at a bus stop.
1:43:16 you um many of you are really good
1:43:18 friends with some of our city elected
1:43:20 officials. You need to be advocating to
1:43:22 clean up the bus stops. It is not okay
1:43:25 for our kids to be getting assaulted on
1:43:27 Sunran or at Sun TR bus stops and that
1:43:31 has been happening. Um and so now you
1:43:35 want to cut the school safety people
1:43:37 too. So
1:43:39 um safety, education and safety should
1:43:42 be your top two priorities. So this is
1:43:45 ridiculous. Most of these people on
1:43:47 here, not most of them, some of them are
1:43:50 in direct contact with children.
1:43:52 Okay? You need to cut instead of
1:43:55 anything to do with site administrators
1:43:57 and teachers and bus drivers and
1:44:01 dispatch from bus drivers to who are
1:44:03 going to tell you if little Johnny got
1:44:04 dropped off at the wrong corner, you
1:44:07 need to work at 10:10. You need to cut
1:44:09 from central admin. you need to cut some
1:44:11 of the waterfall of employees under
1:44:14 assistant
1:44:15 superintendence.
1:44:18 Um, and the town hall for the bond
1:44:21 oversight committee uh more than just
1:44:23 the TUSD community paid for that. We
1:44:26 need to be invited to a
1:44:30 forum. Thank you. We have five uh
1:44:33 letters to be read. The first one is by
1:44:35 Alexander Gonzalez is a student
1:44:37 graduation attire and dress code. Good
1:44:40 afternoon. I am submitting a request for
1:44:42 the board to discuss regarding students
1:44:44 ability to dawn a stole representing
1:44:46 representative of our own culture. I am
1:44:49 a Mexican student who will be graduating
1:44:50 this coming May and was hoping to wear a
1:44:52 stole portraying the Mexican flag as a
1:44:54 way to show my pride of mine and my
1:44:57 family's culture. However, when
1:44:59 discussing that topic with my principal,
1:45:00 I was made aware that I would not be
1:45:02 allowed to wear one given by my family
1:45:04 to wear as I walked to stage. To my
1:45:07 understanding, the student would be
1:45:08 allowed to donle representative of the
1:45:11 culture upon receiving one from the
1:45:13 district after getting a cultural
1:45:15 excellence award commendment for having
1:45:16 a GPA of 3.25 or higher. I understand
1:45:20 the importance of recognizing these
1:45:22 students for their work and
1:45:23 achievements. However, I do not think it
1:45:26 however I do think it is strange to in a
1:45:29 sense limit a student's ability to
1:45:31 represent themselves and their family's
1:45:33 culture behind a GPA. I hope this
1:45:36 message finds you well and that you
1:45:38 consider a possible change in the
1:45:40 exceptions change in the dress code
1:45:42 rules for graduation in order to allow
1:45:44 students to fully represent and showcase
1:45:46 pride in their families culture and
1:45:51 heritage. Next letter is from Susan
1:45:54 Kelly about the gay program issues.
1:46:00 Dear governing board, we are writing to
1:46:02 bring to your attention to some ongoing
1:46:05 concerns regarding the current structure
1:46:07 of the gifted and talented education
1:46:09 gate pullout programming, particularly
1:46:12 in light of recent changes and possible
1:46:15 proposed changes to the department. As
1:46:18 you know, GATE was previously a cohesive
1:46:20 unit that encompassed both GATE programs
1:46:23 and gate testing. However, following the
1:46:26 decision to split these functions, there
1:46:28 have been significant challenges and
1:46:30 communication gaps that are now
1:46:32 affecting our ability to serve students
1:46:34 and families effectively. The AL
1:46:37 director now utilizes one of our
1:46:39 programmatic coordinators to manage GATE
1:46:41 testing and other AL tests to include AP
1:46:45 testing and AVID gate IB dual credit
1:46:48 recruitment. Since this restructuring,
1:46:51 we have encountered numerous issues
1:46:53 related to communication with schools
1:46:55 and other departments. Our team often
1:46:58 experiences delays in receiving
1:47:00 responses from gate testing team, which
1:47:03 impacts our ability to meet students
1:47:05 needs in a timely manner. Additionally,
1:47:08 despite our concerns, we have found that
1:47:10 the AL director and the AL testing
1:47:13 coordinator have been unwilling to
1:47:15 address or acknowledge these issues.
1:47:17 Below I have outlined some specific
1:47:19 concerns that have been repeatedly
1:47:21 dismissed. One, errors in gate testing
1:47:24 and placement. The gate testing and
1:47:26 placement office has frequently made
1:47:28 errors in student placements which has
1:47:31 led to confusion and required the gate
1:47:33 programs office to address and resolve
1:47:35 these mishaps. Also the required also
1:47:39 the delay in proper identification of
1:47:41 students has caused teachers to not have
1:47:43 an accurate list of students to service
1:47:45 causing some students to be serviced who
1:47:47 should not have been or to be missed
1:47:50 students who should be serviced. Two
1:47:54 preg first grade students pregate first
1:47:58 grade pilot students were not removed
1:48:00 from the pullout working list this
1:48:01 school year. As a result, itinerant
1:48:04 teachers were left to explain to upset
1:48:06 students why they could no longer be
1:48:08 serviced and the great program gate
1:48:11 programs office was left to contact
1:48:13 families and clarify the situation.
1:48:15 Three, over representation in affluent
1:48:17 areas. While we welcome the district's
1:48:20 move toward local norming, we have seen
1:48:22 unintended consequences consequences in
1:48:24 certain areas.
1:48:27 Specifically, schools and neighborhoods
1:48:29 such as Fruit Tundler, Linew Weaver, Sam
1:48:31 Hughes, and Davis Bilingual are
1:48:33 experiencing significant growth in gate
1:48:35 pullout sessions. This overcrowding
1:48:38 compromises the personalized support
1:48:40 that our gifted students need and
1:48:41 dilutes the quality of instruction that
1:48:43 we are able to provide these students uh
1:48:46 these gifted students who are genuinely
1:48:48 qualified. Four, expected numbers,
1:48:51 expected student number increase.
1:48:53 Preliminary
1:49:00 reports. The next letter is from Ro.
1:49:02 Robert Curio, uh, AI classroom. Hello,
1:49:06 my name is Robert Curio and I'm a
1:49:08 teacher at Mccoral K8 and I have been
1:49:10 teaching for 13 years. Generative AI is
1:49:13 an important tool and I appreciate the
1:49:15 board and our district staff taking a
1:49:17 deeper dive into it to make it a useful
1:49:20 tool for staff and students to use.
1:49:23 Generative AI has allowed me to become a
1:49:26 more thoughtful and engaging teacher. At
1:49:28 Mccoral, we use project-based learning
1:49:30 as a main vector of our learning. We
1:49:32 often create scenario-based projects and
1:49:35 engage our students in real world
1:49:36 products. I have used generative AI to
1:49:39 help me plan projects with photography,
1:49:42 game coding, theater, house design, and
1:49:44 short film production. I use generative
1:49:47 AI to give me plans on what
1:49:50 professionals would do to create these
1:49:51 different products while focusing on the
1:49:54 standards that need to be taught. This
1:49:56 allows students to be engaged and learn
1:49:58 skills that would not be possible with
1:50:00 traditional learning. I can ask for
1:50:03 collaborative activities and run through
1:50:04 protocols that mirror the professions.
1:50:07 Like all teachers, when planning my
1:50:09 projects, I verify the information is
1:50:11 correct and dive deeper into other
1:50:14 resources that I would have never have
1:50:16 thought of to look for. Though I have
1:50:18 not been though I have not
1:50:21 used Though I have not used to for
1:50:24 grading, it could also be an invaluable
1:50:27 tool for grading work. The assessments
1:50:29 standards accountability and research
1:50:31 for the Arizona Department of Education
1:50:33 states it uses humans to grade 10% of
1:50:36 their written assessments. The rest are
1:50:38 graded by a computer program that looks
1:50:41 for
1:50:42 patterns. As for students, generative AI
1:50:45 can be just as useful. Students should
1:50:47 have access to features and programs
1:50:49 that the district pays for like Canva.
1:50:52 Canva is a media editing website and has
1:50:55 features that students could use to
1:50:57 expand their creativity. Features like
1:51:00 image creation, image magic edit, and
1:51:02 magic studio. I agree that not all forms
1:51:05 of generative AI should be allowed, for
1:51:08 example, the use of large language
1:51:10 models. It is obvious to think that
1:51:12 students would use it to cheat on essays
1:51:14 and other textbased work. A motivated
1:51:17 student will find ways to look up answer
1:51:20 keys, copy and paste work found from the
1:51:22 internet or ask a friend to do the work
1:51:25 for them. It is up to our teachers to do
1:51:28 monitor. It is up to our teachers to do
1:51:31 monitor what students are capable from
1:51:32 multiple data sources, not just written
1:51:35 computer work. To cast a blanket ban on
1:51:37 all generative AI software would be a
1:51:39 disservice to our students and staff.
1:51:41 Thank you. Excuse me, Dr. Robbie. Yes,
1:51:44 we're at the 20 minute mark. We have one
1:51:46 more letter. I'll move to how we
1:51:48 have two more letters to be read.
1:51:51 Second. Okay, there's I'll move to have
1:51:55 those two letters to be written. There's
1:51:56 a motion by Dr. Shaw, second by Miss um
1:51:59 Shaw to extend call to the audience. All
1:52:02 those in favor say I. I. Those
1:52:05 opposed. All
1:52:09 right. All right. The next letter is
1:52:11 from Miguel Sanchez. Letter submitted to
1:52:13 board staff by Monzo former PTP members.
1:52:16 Dear TUSD governing board, we the Monzo
1:52:19 Elementary School community write to
1:52:20 express serious concerns regarding the
1:52:22 leadership of principal Maiten who was
1:52:25 appointed two years ago. Over the course
1:52:27 of our tenure, we have witnessed the
1:52:28 unraveling of a vibrant collaborative
1:52:31 school culture in Bio Hollywood. The
1:52:33 school community once characterized by
1:52:35 unity and active parent involvement has
1:52:37 become divided under her administration.
1:52:39 Previously, Monzo thrived with a
1:52:41 dedicated parent teacher partnership,
1:52:43 PTP, that organized annual events such
1:52:46 as Boo Bash, trunk or treat, the rodeo
1:52:48 barbecue, and the school fiesta. These
1:52:50 events brought joy to students and
1:52:52 fostered a strong connection between the
1:52:54 school and his community. During teacher
1:52:56 appreciation week, the PTP generously
1:52:59 provided meals, treats, and tokens of
1:53:01 gratitude to teachers. These efforts
1:53:03 were driven by parents committed to
1:53:05 supporting both staff and students.
1:53:07 Unfortunately, due to ongoing opposition
1:53:09 from principal Mtorena, the PTP was
1:53:12 forced to disband. This loss has deeply
1:53:15 impacted community engagement, and no
1:53:17 new organization has formed since. Many
1:53:20 parents no longer feel welcomed or
1:53:22 valued, and as a result, several have
1:53:24 chosen to withdraw their children from
1:53:25 Monzo and enrolled them elsewhere. The
1:53:28 challenges extend beyond the parent
1:53:29 community. Numerous staff members have
1:53:32 either left voluntarily or dismissed,
1:53:34 often citing irreconcilable differences
1:53:36 with the principal. There are additional
1:53:39 concerns we urged the board to
1:53:40 investigate by speaking directly with
1:53:42 current and former staff. Many have
1:53:44 chosen to remain silent due to a
1:53:46 legitimate fear of
1:53:51 retaliation. While the school did earn a
1:53:53 B rating last year, much of that credit
1:53:55 belongs to dedicated teacher, staff, and
1:53:57 former principal, Mr. Steven La Turko.
1:54:00 In light of these issues, we
1:54:02 respectfully request that the board
1:54:03 conduct an independent audit or
1:54:05 investigation into principal Mtorina's
1:54:07 leadership and management practices.
1:54:10 Should she remain in her role, we
1:54:11 strongly recommend that she receive
1:54:13 professional development and personnel
1:54:15 management, communication, human
1:54:17 relations, and workplace etiquette.
1:54:19 Thank you for your time and attention to
1:54:20 this matter. Sincerely, Miguel Sanchez
1:54:22 and the Monzo Elementary School
1:54:26 community. And the final letter is from
1:54:29 Rosa Mung to be read. Concerns of Monso
1:54:32 leadership. Dear Tucson Unified
1:54:34 Governing Board, I'm writing to express
1:54:36 serious concerns regarding the current
1:54:38 leadership at Ricardo Monso Elementary.
1:54:40 Specifically, the behavior and decisions
1:54:42 of Principal Brenda
1:54:44 Mtorina. This school has always been
1:54:46 more than just a place of learning. It
1:54:48 has been a strong, close-knit community.
1:54:51 Under the previous principal Steven
1:54:52 Lurco, the school thrived. Parents,
1:54:56 staff, and volunteers worked together,
1:54:58 and there was a real sense of shared
1:55:00 purpose. It was a warm, welcoming
1:55:02 environment that felt like an extension
1:55:04 of home. That spirit has been lost under
1:55:06 the current
1:55:07 administration. The recent removal of
1:55:09 long-standing dedicated volunteer aids
1:55:11 without proper communication or
1:55:13 explanation is a clear example. These
1:55:15 individuals were a vital part of the
1:55:17 school community, helping both students
1:55:18 and staff. The removal was abrupt,
1:55:21 confusing, and frankly hurtful to those
1:55:23 who invested so much of their time and
1:55:25 care into the school. Beyond that, the
1:55:28 principal's communication style is
1:55:30 consistently poor. Many interactions
1:55:32 with her feel needlessly cold or
1:55:34 dismissive. It feels as though she's
1:55:36 dismantling the very foundation that
1:55:38 made the school exceptional exceptional
1:55:40 exceptional in the first place. Our
1:55:43 school is a model of community strength
1:55:45 and support that has been seriously
1:55:47 undermined and families are feeling the
1:55:50 shift. I urge your school board to look
1:55:52 into these growing concerns and hear
1:55:54 from those affected. We want to restore
1:55:57 the spirit that once made this school
1:55:59 special. I don't want to have to pull my
1:56:01 girls from this incredible school and
1:56:02 I'm plent and I'm plenty sure of the
1:56:05 parents feel I'm sure plenty of the
1:56:07 other parents feel the same. Thank you
1:56:09 for your time and attention. Sincerely,
1:56:11 Rosa Monk.
1:56:13 That concludes our call to the eyes and
1:56:15 president extramm.
1:56:17 Thank you. Would any board member like
1:56:19 to address any topics from call to the
1:56:21 audience? Miss Hannah Rose. Thank you,
1:56:23 Miss Extramm. And thank you to everybody
1:56:25 who came this evening um and spoke and
1:56:27 sent in letters. Um I just have one
1:56:31 actually concerning uh the students um
1:56:34 for graduation. Um and I guess maybe
1:56:37 this is my question is maybe to Mr.
1:56:39 Ross. Um, as I'm looking up, um,
1:56:43 IKFB-R, which is, um, governing board
1:56:46 policy, can you, um, kind of go over
1:56:50 what the student would have to do if
1:56:52 they want to have something that's not
1:56:55 policy related? I guess it it relates to
1:56:58 the fact that this young man wants to
1:57:00 wear um, something that is u reflective
1:57:04 of his culture.
1:57:06 Well, listen. Rose, this is not on the
1:57:08 board's agenda, but I would just
1:57:09 generally say that that a student can go
1:57:12 to uh the either the student support
1:57:15 service department or to their principal
1:57:17 or the regional assistant
1:57:19 superintendent. But again, this isn't
1:57:20 something that's on the board's agenda
1:57:22 tonight. Okay. My apologies. Well,
1:57:26 that's all I had. Madame President. Yes,
1:57:28 Miss Shaw. Thank you. Um and thank you
1:57:31 to everyone who spoke tonight. Um,
1:57:33 following uh Miss Luna Rose, I would
1:57:35 like to uh put on a future agenda uh
1:57:39 review of the matter raised by uh the
1:57:42 student Alexandra Gonzalez um and uh
1:57:46 also review all the graduation
1:57:48 requirements um at her school and all of
1:57:51 our uh high schools in TUSD
1:57:55 um hopefully at the next meeting. So
1:57:58 that like I know graduation is coming up
1:58:01 soon, but I do want to like make sure
1:58:04 that students can um you know
1:58:08 um support their culture and also that
1:58:12 students aren't left out of uh
1:58:14 graduation because of arbitrary rules
1:58:17 that some school sites might have. Um
1:58:21 second, I'd like to ask staff to follow
1:58:23 through with the negotiations with our
1:58:26 substitutes.
1:58:27 um subs keep our schools and our
1:58:30 district running and uh I really did
1:58:33 expect that now that they're under TEA
1:58:36 that they would be treated as equals and
1:58:39 uh be totally um you know given the uh
1:58:43 rights and responsibilities that all of
1:58:45 our other um bargaining units um and
1:58:48 employee groups um share. And so I'd
1:58:51 like staff to um give them time to um
1:58:56 make their requests known and have that
1:58:58 brought to the governing board. Um let's
1:59:01 see. I'd like to ask staff to review the
1:59:03 matter um raised by Miss Kelly in
1:59:06 regards to gate issues um and the
1:59:09 restructuring and the sharing of staff
1:59:11 with the AL department and also like
1:59:14 staff to review the matter um that's
1:59:16 been raised um at Monzo Elementary.
1:59:19 Thank
1:59:21 you. Any other governing board members
1:59:24 have anything to
1:59:27 add? Thank you. That concludes call to
1:59:30 the audience. Next, we'll move on to
1:59:33 consent
1:59:34 agenda. That is items um 6.2 through
1:59:38 6.7. Dr. Truhill.
1:59:41 Yes. Uh President Extra, members of the
1:59:43 board, uh we'd like for your
1:59:45 consideration of consent agenda items
1:59:47 6.2 to 6.7 as arranged and presented.
1:59:53 So I'll move the item.
1:59:56 The item has been moved by Dr. Shaw,
1:59:58 seconded by Miss Shaw. All those in
2:00:00 favor say I. I. I. Those opposed. Motion
2:00:04 carries. Thank you and congratulations
2:00:07 to all the assistant principles at Choya
2:00:10 High School,
2:00:12 Pueblo High School, Ringcon High School,
2:00:14 Sawarro High School, Tucson Unified
2:00:17 Virtual Academy, Booth Fet, CE Rose,
2:00:20 McGee Middle School, Curtis Middle
2:00:22 School, Valencia Middle School, and
2:00:23 Grihala Elementary School.
2:00:34 [Applause]
2:00:36 And if you are here, please come up for
2:00:38 um a photo.
2:00:41 [Music]
2:00:48 [Applause]
2:00:54 Yeah, I got this.
2:01:09 [Music]
2:01:18 If you'll step closer together, that
2:01:20 would be
2:01:23 nice. Congratulations.
2:01:35 Look here, please. Congratulations,
2:01:38 please. Looking at me, please. Thank
2:01:40 you.
2:01:45 two. We'll make sure.
2:02:02 [Music]
2:02:06 Yeah.
2:02:13 Anything else?
2:02:35 [Applause]
2:02:43 All
2:02:44 [Music]
2:02:51 right. Hallelujah.
2:03:09 Uh, next we'll move on to
2:03:11 item 7.1.
2:03:18 If I can just have everybody
2:03:21 move out and
2:03:27 Then I'll go to the restroom.
2:03:31 I'll take that opportunity.
2:03:34 Actually, I will too.
2:03:40 I'll just
2:03:42 say we are taking a quick 5m minute
2:03:46 bathroom break. Thank you.
2:04:15 So tight.
2:04:18 [Applause]
2:04:37 I
2:04:47 actually go home.
2:04:54 right
2:05:01 [Applause]
2:05:17 here. Wow.
2:05:27 Yes.
2:05:32 [Music]
2:05:46 Okay.
2:06:00 Hi.
2:06:14 Yeah.
2:06:39 But it doesn't work.
2:06:54 I'm doing a career day at one of the
2:06:56 schools.
2:07:10 I can see it in my head.
2:07:23 All right. Thank you.
2:07:38 Was it
2:07:39 good?
2:07:43 Especially you, Rob.
2:07:47 No, but I want you that way.
2:08:27 Hello. Sorry.
2:08:42 Yeah.
2:09:13 I'll go tomorrow.
2:09:28 [Music]
2:09:31 What did you do?
2:09:59 Yolanda, you'll send us the names that
2:10:01 sign that letter, right?
2:10:04 Oh, the names that sign that Monzo
2:10:06 letter.
2:10:08 You'll send it. Okay. Thank you.
2:10:48 I don't know. I thought there was a
2:10:49 button.
2:10:54 [Laughter]
2:11:01 It's obvious none of us
2:11:04 except maybe that when we're cutting
2:11:05 meat.
2:11:12 Okay,
2:11:13 we'll come back from our break. Item 7.1
2:11:18 is administrative appointments principal
2:11:21 at booth K through 8 school. Dr.
2:11:24 [Music]
2:11:27 Trio, President Extra, members of the
2:11:29 governing board. Um yeah, tonight uh
2:11:32 it's uh it's an honor to uh welcome back
2:11:35 uh one of our um superstar employees. I
2:11:38 used to remember my earlier days in the
2:11:40 district going to visit CIO and no visit
2:11:43 to CIO would be complete would be
2:11:45 complete without visiting with its proud
2:11:47 magnet coordinator. Uh at the time we
2:11:49 used to call him Mr. SV uh Mr. Sa Vanova
2:11:52 but um unfortunately he he departed the
2:11:56 district for a little bit. He went
2:11:57 through our leadership prep program. I
2:11:59 remember seeing him in our leadership
2:12:01 training program for up and cominging
2:12:02 administrators and principles. lost him
2:12:05 for a little bit as he went over to
2:12:06 Morirana, became a wrestling coach and
2:12:08 by the way was a longtime wrestling
2:12:09 coach I believe it was Choya um and went
2:12:13 over to Morirana, became a wrestling
2:12:14 coach and became assistant principal
2:12:15 there uh at one of the region's larger
2:12:18 high schools uh there for about 3 years
2:12:20 and most recently he's been serving as
2:12:22 the principal of Baba Kbury uh out there
2:12:25 in Cells Arizona. Um, Robert uh really
2:12:29 passionately communicated a vision for
2:12:31 Booth Fickett and I think one of the
2:12:33 things that impressed me in our final
2:12:34 round interview is the way that you
2:12:37 spoke about the school that's going to
2:12:39 be the school that can be uh instead of
2:12:42 and I and I think that that
2:12:43 differentiated
2:12:45 um some of the conversations that I'd
2:12:46 had with some previous applicants about
2:12:48 some of the immediate challenges. So uh
2:12:51 I'm proud to support his aspirational
2:12:52 vision uh for this school as I recommend
2:12:55 for consideration by the governing
2:12:57 board. The next principle for booth
2:12:59 thicket at K8, Mr. Robert
2:13:03 [Applause]
2:13:06 Vanova. So
2:13:09 moved. I'll second. The motion has been
2:13:13 moved by Miss Shaw, seconded by Miss
2:13:15 Luna Rose. All those in favor say I. I.
2:13:19 Those opposed? Motion carries.
2:13:21 Congratulations, Mr.
2:13:24 Vanuela. If you would like to come up
2:13:26 and say a few words, the floor is
2:13:32 yours. Thank you uh for those kind
2:13:34 words. Uh Dr. Trillo and uh um governing
2:13:38 board, I'm a little nervous. Uh I feel
2:13:41 as though um I spent a lot of time in
2:13:44 TUSD, 20 years. Uh and then I uh my
2:13:48 journey took me in different places and
2:13:49 I gained a lot of uh different and new
2:13:51 experiences and it feels so good to be
2:13:53 back home. Uh this this is where a lot
2:13:56 of the training took place for me here.
2:13:58 Um and I'm excited. I was excited
2:14:01 driving over here and uh walking through
2:14:03 those doors again. And um I can't wait
2:14:06 to bring
2:14:08 uh this new vision and sense of
2:14:12 enthusiasm and excitement uh back to
2:14:14 Booth Thicket. Um I've learned from the
2:14:17 best. I worked at KIO with my Kario crew
2:14:20 for over 15 years. So I know what it's
2:14:24 like to be at the top with these guys
2:14:26 and I want to bring that enthusiasm and
2:14:29 all that knowledge u back to Booth
2:14:31 Thicket. And I'm excited with my new AP,
2:14:33 Mr. Yuri who's here as well. So I think
2:14:35 together we're going to make a dynamic
2:14:37 team. So thank you guys for your
2:14:39 consideration and I feel honored and
2:14:40 blessed to be back and it feels good to
2:14:42 be home again. So and we can't wait to
2:14:46 do big things at Booth. So thank you.
2:14:48 Thank you. Congratulations.
2:14:58 All right. If we can get a quick picture
2:15:00 with our new administrator, that would
2:15:01 be great.
2:15:20 If you step over this way just a little
2:15:22 bit, we'll stay out of the way of the
2:15:23 podium. Thank you so much.
2:15:31 Look at
2:15:56 me. Uh, next is item 7.2 Two, approval
2:16:00 of pro to procure goods and services for
2:16:03 quarter bond four project priorities.
2:16:05 Dr. Trillo. Yes, President Astron board
2:16:08 members like to present um uh program
2:16:11 manager for the bond program, Dr.
2:16:13 Charlotte Carter. We've got some
2:16:15 exciting projects uh up for governing
2:16:17 board approval tonight for our quarter 4
2:16:20 priorities. Good evening, board
2:16:23 president and board members. As Dr. Trio
2:16:27 said, I'm Dr. Charlotte Carter and it is
2:16:30 a pleasure to be able to present a few
2:16:34 more quarter 4 bond projects and
2:16:36 priorities for procurement of goods and
2:16:40 services. So, uh this evening we have
2:16:45 convection oven replacements in our HVAC
2:16:49 retrofits that are already been
2:16:51 approved. So we want to be able to have
2:16:54 convection ovens while we have the
2:16:57 various kitchens down to also capitalize
2:17:01 on that and do the replacements which is
2:17:04 also already in the bond. And then as
2:17:07 well we have dish machine replacements
2:17:10 which are the commercial of the
2:17:13 dishwashers and we also want to do that
2:17:17 at the time while we have the kitchens
2:17:20 down doing the retrofits for
2:17:23 HVAC. And then lastly we have the white
2:17:27 fleet vehicles for facilities
2:17:29 management. We want to be able to
2:17:33 purchase nine more uh vehicles that's
2:17:36 going to help us uh continue the curb
2:17:39 appeal for our schools. So, let's go to
2:17:42 the detailed
2:17:50 list.
2:17:52 Okay. Oh, that is very small.
2:17:57 So here we actually show uh for the
2:18:02 convection ovens the specific schools
2:18:06 that we're going to do which is uh Davis
2:18:09 Elementary Magnet and also Robins K8.
2:18:13 And then for the dish machines we have
2:18:17 Davis Elementary magnet uh Rob Robins K8
2:18:22 and also Robson. And so, as you can see,
2:18:26 I have the the cost for that as well as
2:18:30 the support of the vehicles for the
2:18:33 white fleet. And this is for our
2:18:35 facilities management
2:18:37 team. And so, as you can see, we have
2:18:40 our our total cost uh for this uh Q4
2:18:46 projects. And what I am hoping to have
2:18:50 you do is consider and recommend the
2:18:53 action to grant authority to the
2:18:56 purchasing director in conjunction with
2:18:58 the bond program manager, myself, to
2:19:00 procure the goods and services using
2:19:02 approved TUSD and cooperative contracts
2:19:05 for the fourth wave of bond projects not
2:19:08 to exceed plus 20% contingency where
2:19:11 single purchases may exceed
2:19:14 250,000 or for cumulative purchases with
2:19:17 cooperative contracts vendors in excess
2:19:20 of
2:19:21 250,000. So this is the next set of
2:19:25 projects that we would like to do. We
2:19:27 have already had this uh approved by the
2:19:30 bond oversight committee on April
2:19:33 17th. Any
2:19:34 [Music]
2:19:36 questions? Dr. Shaw. Uh thank you,
2:19:38 President Xram, and thank you uh Dr.
2:19:40 Carter for coming and joining us tonight
2:19:42 again. Uh my question is if we approve
2:19:43 this tonight, can you tell me how um the
2:19:46 procurement everything is going to be uh
2:19:48 aligning to the um sustainability policy
2:19:51 we passed in October? So when we buy the
2:19:54 vehicles and do other things, are they
2:19:56 going to be electric vehicles like so
2:19:58 that we save costs on diesel down the
2:20:00 other other fuel costs down the road?
2:20:01 Like what are we doing to make sure that
2:20:02 everything we are doing with the bond is
2:20:04 aligning with what we had already
2:20:06 approved as a governing board uh with
2:20:07 our current policy and sustainability.
2:20:10 So I am going to have Greg Meyers which
2:20:13 he is the facilities director to come
2:20:16 and address that question.
2:20:22 Good evening everyone. So, in regard to
2:20:25 that uh particular question, the the
2:20:28 vehicles that we chose to go with this
2:20:29 this round are uh gas powered, but I
2:20:33 think you know what we'll want to try to
2:20:34 do is to provide infrastructure for uh
2:20:38 electric vehicles going forward, but we
2:20:41 haven't got to that piece yet. But
2:20:42 that's what we decided to go uh with on
2:20:45 this this go around here. And another
2:20:47 reason too is because of the immediate
2:20:49 need for those vehicles, those were
2:20:51 readily available. And so that's why we
2:20:54 decided to go that route um so that we
2:20:56 could get them uh quicker because we are
2:21:00 really in not a good position in the
2:21:01 grounds department right now. And as a
2:21:03 result of the uh
2:21:06 uh um a contract that was approved uh by
2:21:09 the board with bright uh Breview
2:21:12 landscaping. It's just another reason
2:21:13 why we needed to try to act as quick as
2:21:15 we could with what was readily available
2:21:18 and but that is something we can
2:21:19 certainly consider going forward.
2:21:23 Okay, I appreciate that. And um you
2:21:25 know, I I'll vote in favor of this
2:21:26 tonight, but I don't want anything else
2:21:28 coming back to us until we've started
2:21:29 like putting together the infrastructure
2:21:30 because we timed the approval of the
2:21:33 sustainability policy knowing that we
2:21:34 were going to be spending a lot of money
2:21:35 on the bond. And I want to make sure
2:21:36 we're not uh wasting the money on the
2:21:38 bond with things that we can do in a
2:21:40 different way that's going to save us
2:21:41 money long term. That was the one of the
2:21:43 purposes of the uh sustainability, not
2:21:45 just in terms of minimizing our carbon
2:21:47 footprint, but also saving the district
2:21:49 money longer term when it comes to our
2:21:51 maintenance operation budget with fuel
2:21:52 and other costs. So, I I'll I'll support
2:21:55 this tonight, but I ask the um the staff
2:21:58 as well as our bond oversight committee
2:21:59 to make sure that we are uh aligning
2:22:01 what we're approving and moving forward
2:22:03 with implementation of our
2:22:05 sustainability policy as well with our
2:22:06 bond purchases.
2:22:08 Okay, very good. Thank you.
2:22:11 Uh, Mr. Romero and then Miss Shaw. Um,
2:22:16 Greg, another question for you. So, just
2:22:19 out of curiosity, these vehicles, so
2:22:22 when I was at, um, uh, one of the
2:22:25 schools that I saw Speedy with his truck
2:22:27 and his trailer, is it those vehicles
2:22:29 that we're looking at being replaced?
2:22:32 Well, uh, some of these vehicles, uh, we
2:22:34 had some photos for the bond oversight
2:22:36 committee and,
2:22:39 uh, they don't even have paint on some
2:22:41 of them. I mean, it's pretty
2:22:43 embarrassing. And actually, four of the
2:22:45 vehicles we couldn't even find parts for
2:22:47 anymore, so we had to send them to the
2:22:49 auction block. And so, because, you
2:22:52 know, we just don't, I guess you could
2:22:54 say, take something to the junkyard. We
2:22:57 always try to auction, of course. And
2:22:59 so, that's where they went. So we were
2:23:01 down four right there. And so the other
2:23:03 four are at least 25 years old. The dump
2:23:05 truck is 34 years old, I think, if I
2:23:08 remember right. But anyway, so that's
2:23:10 the ninth vehicle. The other eight
2:23:12 vehicles are the uh utility trucks. And
2:23:15 how many miles do you think um each
2:23:18 truck gets put on on a day, daily
2:23:21 bas?
2:23:23 Um, I just saw that number like last
2:23:27 week and because we had a presentation
2:23:29 on that and I think it
2:23:32 was I think it's over 200,000
2:23:35 miles.
2:23:38 Uh, I think I just don't remember for
2:23:41 sure. I might have to get back to you on
2:23:43 that because we had the white we had the
2:23:45 yellow fleet number and then we had the
2:23:46 white fleet number. But I I the 200,000
2:23:49 miles sticks in my mind, but I don't
2:23:51 know if that was, you know, per uh
2:23:54 quarter or what that was, but it's it's
2:23:56 a lot of miles, but I could find out for
2:23:58 sure on that one. That number just
2:24:00 escapes me right now. Okay. Yeah, I' I'd
2:24:02 appreciate the finding out what that
2:24:03 number is. And uh thank you very much.
2:24:06 But they Yeah, they're just not they're
2:24:07 not in a good position. So, we really
2:24:09 appreciate the help with that. You are
2:24:10 you are correct cuz I do a lot of
2:24:12 driving as well. Like I said, when I saw
2:24:13 their vehicle, what they were sitting in
2:24:15 to go from school site to school site
2:24:18 and I've seen these vans and trucks that
2:24:20 you talk about the paint is Paul B off,
2:24:22 you know, you see TSD very lightly on
2:24:25 the side of on of the door and um I go,
2:24:28 I hope we sold that and they didn't take
2:24:30 that off. We always make sure that the
2:24:33 names are erased before we sell them.
2:24:35 And so just so everyone knows, but uh
2:24:38 the big thing that I'm really excited
2:24:39 about is that five out of those eight
2:24:41 vehicles are actually the crew cabs,
2:24:43 which means that we can get more people
2:24:45 in the cabs. You try to put three big
2:24:47 groundskeepers and just a regular cab,
2:24:50 that's a tight fit. So uh I'm really
2:24:53 excited about those five uh crew cabs
2:24:55 because that's going to help the
2:24:56 department uh tremendously. That was
2:24:59 also going to be my next question. So
2:25:00 thank you for answering that for me.
2:25:02 Okay, very good, Miss Shaw. Uh, thank
2:25:05 you, Dr. Carter and Mr. Meyer for your
2:25:07 presentation, answering our questions.
2:25:09 Um, some of the questions I had were
2:25:12 already answered. I was wondering if our
2:25:13 grounds crew was going to benefit from
2:25:15 this purchase. I'm happy to see that
2:25:18 they will be. Um, and I just want to
2:25:22 raise awareness to um the issue I saw at
2:25:25 Craig with their roof um that's been
2:25:28 leaking for years. Um if um Miss Extraum
2:25:32 you could raise awareness with that. I
2:25:34 think they they deserve to have like a
2:25:35 roof replacement hopefully this summer.
2:25:38 Um because when it is raining they say
2:25:41 that you know the water just pours down
2:25:44 in their inside the building and like
2:25:47 they've been we've been replacing the
2:25:49 ceiling tiles for quite a long time and
2:25:52 and yeah I I just hope we can move them
2:25:55 up in the schedule. I'm not sure where
2:25:56 they are now. I know that's not even
2:25:58 agenda. So, I just wanted to raise
2:25:59 awareness for this item for I'd like to
2:26:02 respond to that. And so, thank you very
2:26:05 much for bringing up Craig that has been
2:26:07 with the school facilities department
2:26:08 for 6 years for replacement and it still
2:26:11 hasn't been done. It's an asphalt roof.
2:26:14 I frankly don't get it. And so, you're
2:26:17 right. I mean, wherever I mean, I I know
2:26:19 who we're buying the buckets from, and I
2:26:21 think I should have stock in that
2:26:22 company because we buy a lot of buckets
2:26:25 because of these leaks, because of these
2:26:27 uh uh deficient roofs that we have. So,
2:26:30 we just have to continue to try to push
2:26:32 the uh uh point with the school facility
2:26:35 department. Craig isn't the only one. Uh
2:26:38 Robison is another one I can think off
2:26:40 right the top of my head. our high
2:26:42 schools. We're working we're completed
2:26:44 uh Catalina, but now we're going on a
2:26:46 Choya next. Ringcon's got a lot of
2:26:48 problems in the U building and I we we
2:26:52 just have a lot of roof problems right
2:26:53 now. And so I I'm glad you brought that
2:26:56 up because we'll try to keep pushing.
2:26:58 Dr. Trio, I I want to clarify. You mean
2:27:00 the state facilities board, not not
2:27:03 facilities. Anybody watching, it's not
2:27:05 us delaying for 6 years. It's the state
2:27:07 facilities. Yeah, the state facilities
2:27:09 board. Yeah. In Phoenix. So, it's on the
2:27:11 docket for them to fix it as well as
2:27:13 other schools, but for some reason
2:27:15 they're just dragging their feet or
2:27:17 there's just more. Yeah, I I just don't
2:27:18 see the priority with when in regard to
2:27:21 roofs. So, uh I mean that's just the way
2:27:25 I see it. But we'll continue to try to
2:27:27 push for that because Craig has been on
2:27:28 that docket for a long time. But I
2:27:30 appreciate you bringing that up. Of
2:27:32 course. Thank you for clarifying. And I
2:27:34 just want to um let my colleagues know
2:27:37 that the fleet vehicles, they're like
2:27:39 dump trucks and so I don't know if
2:27:42 there's an electric. Okay. Um appreciate
2:27:45 that. But I think one is from 1991.
2:27:49 Something crazy.
2:27:51 So you know in high school
2:27:55 I was only 10 at that time. Just
2:27:57 kidding. Right. But honestly like we've
2:28:01 used those trucks up. So, I'm so glad
2:28:04 that we're able to replace them. And if
2:28:06 also um Dr. Carter, if we could just get
2:28:08 a list of um what's coming up next as
2:28:12 far as like security and fencing and
2:28:14 that type of thing. Um because I was at
2:28:16 Robinson yesterday and they said they've
2:28:20 been waiting a long time for their
2:28:22 fencing. So, I would just appreciate
2:28:25 that. Miss Action. Yes, Miss Luna Rose.
2:28:27 Um just one quick question and it's for
2:28:29 you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so thank you for
2:28:33 making that clarification, Miss Extramm.
2:28:35 Um, these nine vehicles, junk trucks,
2:28:38 I'm assuming they're bought like as
2:28:39 commercial vehicles. They are. Yeah,
2:28:41 there's uh, like I said, there's there's
2:28:43 five crew cab utility trucks. So, those
2:28:46 are 3/4 ton. And then, uh, the other uh,
2:28:49 three are 3/4 ton regular cab uh,
2:28:53 utility trucks. And then the dump truck
2:28:55 is the the the ninth vehicle. that was
2:28:58 the 91 or whatever that was. And so, uh,
2:29:02 I have to give kudos out to our auto
2:29:04 shop. They do a great job trying to keep
2:29:05 these vehicles on the road because it's
2:29:08 it's a big task for them. And but they
2:29:11 really do a good job. So, I want to make
2:29:13 sure that we give them proper
2:29:14 recognition for the work that they do.
2:29:16 All right. Well, thank you. I'd like to
2:29:18 echo that. And, uh, with that, I'd like
2:29:20 to move the item. I'll second. Uh,
2:29:22 motion has been made by Miss Luna Rose,
2:29:24 seconded by Dr. Shaw. All those in favor
2:29:26 say I. I. I. Those opposed. Motion
2:29:29 carries. Thank you so
2:29:31 much. Next is approval of proposed dress
2:29:34 code for Dodge Traditional Magnet Middle
2:29:36 School. Um Dr. Triill,
2:29:42 Mr. President Extro, um I'd like to
2:29:44 welcome our proud principal at Dodge,
2:29:46 Brenda Menigan, to walk us through what
2:29:48 the proposed changes are. Um for those
2:29:51 of you watching, Dodge has always had a
2:29:53 uniform. So, it's not like today they're
2:29:55 seeking approval for the initial
2:29:56 uniform, but there's some minor changes.
2:29:58 With that, I'll turn it over to Miss
2:29:59 Manigan. Thank you, sir. Board
2:30:02 President, board members, Dr. Trillo,
2:30:04 thank you this evening. I'm Brenda
2:30:06 Manigan, proud principal of Dodge
2:30:07 Traditional Magnet Middle School. Dodge
2:30:10 has been a traditional magnet school for
2:30:11 many years, and we had a uniform in
2:30:14 place or a dress code for dress for
2:30:16 success policy, and we were very proud
2:30:19 of that. Recently, last spring, when you
2:30:22 adopted a new dress code, we were
2:30:25 notified that the actual approved dress
2:30:27 code did not reflect for our school in
2:30:30 2017 did not reflect what we were
2:30:32 actually practicing in the building. So,
2:30:35 we went back to honor what was actually
2:30:37 adopted by the board. And so, then in
2:30:39 the spring, I was asked by the community
2:30:41 to go forward with the process of making
2:30:43 modifications to reflect what we
2:30:45 actually had been practicing prior to
2:30:47 that. So, what you have before you
2:30:49 tonight is the proposal that my
2:30:51 community came up with so that we can go
2:30:53 back to what we were already honoring.
2:30:58 Any questions?
2:31:00 Miss Shaw? Um, thank you, Miss Manigan,
2:31:03 for bringing this forth to the board. I
2:31:05 did participate in the survey. My
2:31:07 daughter does go to to Dodge and she
2:31:10 enjoys it and also enjoys wearing the
2:31:13 uniform, believe it or not, cuz it makes
2:31:14 things so much easier. Um although she's
2:31:18 probably going to be upset that crocs
2:31:20 are still not allowed. Um I'm very happy
2:31:22 to see that we have um the blue color
2:31:25 added to the the bottoms. So um yeah,
2:31:28 thank you for your work and your due
2:31:30 diligence and and getting that survey
2:31:32 out to the Dodge community. Absolutely.
2:31:34 We made some adjustments based on the
2:31:36 feedback that we got from families. One
2:31:38 of the question or one of the feedback
2:31:40 that we got was that we had always had
2:31:42 khaki or black pants and families said
2:31:45 that sometimes blue is easier to find so
2:31:46 we added navy blue. Um our teachers also
2:31:50 were no longer interested in fighting
2:31:52 the battle of tucking in their shirts.
2:31:54 So that's no longer part of our
2:31:56 modifications either.
2:31:58 Dr. Shaw, thank you President. thanks
2:32:01 for being here tonight and talking about
2:32:02 uh all this work that you guys have been
2:32:03 doing at Dodge and and so thanks for all
2:32:05 your work over there uh and being
2:32:07 principal there. Uh my question was
2:32:09 about the Crocs and like so it says in
2:32:11 here due to safety concerns I've worked
2:32:12 in a lot of industrial places and
2:32:14 medical places and where where safety is
2:32:16 definitely an issue in terms of open
2:32:18 toed uh shoes and everything but I'm
2:32:20 confused on what safety concerns we're
2:32:22 worried about in schools in terms of why
2:32:24 um no Crocs flip-flops slip-on platforms
2:32:27 or cleats. So, we have science classes
2:32:31 of course at our campus, including a
2:32:32 high school credit course. And so, the
2:32:34 science teacher has written into the
2:32:36 policies for the safety of the labs and
2:32:38 stuff that they cannot have open shoes.
2:32:41 And with the Crocs having holes, she
2:32:42 asked that we add that as well. Okay.
2:32:45 But I mean, all of our all of our
2:32:47 science like I don't think that's our
2:32:48 our basic policy for all of our schools
2:32:51 in terms of all the middle schools and
2:32:53 high schools that have science labs. And
2:32:55 so is that something that we want
2:32:56 universal for like every kid all the
2:32:58 time always or just when they're in
2:32:59 science labs to make sure they have
2:33:01 Currently Oh, I'm so sorry, sir.
2:33:02 Currently, they are having to if they
2:33:05 know they're having a lab, make sure
2:33:06 that they have appropriate shoes.
2:33:13 Yes, Michelle. Thank you. Yeah, I mean,
2:33:16 I don't know how many um parents or
2:33:18 students commented that they wanted
2:33:20 Crocs. I think I did, but um you know,
2:33:23 I'm not sure there's even very good
2:33:25 support for your foot. Like I've been
2:33:27 having back problems because of the
2:33:29 shoes that I wear. Um and so you know, I
2:33:32 still support this policy whether Crocs
2:33:34 are there or not. Um and also for those
2:33:38 students who are in PE, like Crocs just
2:33:40 don't cut it for PE. Um even with like
2:33:44 what do they call it? Sports mode. Even
2:33:46 in sports mode, they don't cut it.
2:33:48 So yeah, I'm comfortable moving this
2:33:50 item. I'll second. Motion has been made
2:33:54 by Miss Shaw, seconded by Miss Luna
2:33:56 Rose. All those in favor say I. I. I.
2:33:59 Those opposed. Motion carries. Thank
2:34:01 you. Thank you.
2:34:04 If you want to see Crocs on a campus, go
2:34:06 to or high school campus. Seriously,
2:34:09 that's all they wear. Everywhere. I like
2:34:13 Crocs. Number uh item 7.4 Four is the
2:34:16 approval to appoint a new member to
2:34:18 serve on the Tucson Unified School
2:34:20 District audit committee. Um Dr. Shaw.
2:34:24 Uh thank you, President Extro. Tonight
2:34:26 we have the recommendation from the
2:34:27 audit committee to appoint uh Tabitha
2:34:30 Fox uh to the audit committee. Uh the
2:34:32 audit committee met uh I believe two
2:34:35 weeks ago uh and unanimously approved
2:34:37 this recommendation for before the
2:34:38 governing board.
2:34:40 Um I will second. I'll move the item.
2:34:43 Oh, sorry. I got ahead of you. Uh, the
2:34:47 item has been moved by Dr. Sean,
2:34:49 seconded by Miss Lena Rose. All those in
2:34:51 favor say I. I. I. Those opposed? Motion
2:34:54 carries. Miss Extra. Yeah, Miss Fox is
2:34:57 on Zoom.
2:34:59 Oh, Miss Fox, is there anything that you
2:35:02 would like to say? Congratulations on
2:35:04 your appointment to the audit committee.
2:35:07 Thank you so much. I hope you can hear
2:35:09 okay. Uh I appreciate the uh the comment
2:35:16 and appointment. Uh just just a quick uh
2:35:21 about me for those who have not seen my
2:35:24 materials. Uh I am a CPA 20 years of
2:35:27 experience in financial management. Um
2:35:30 I've committed 13 years of my career to
2:35:32 nonprofit the nonprofit sector. So, I'm
2:35:35 very passionate about community impact
2:35:37 and I'm happy that uh my service to the
2:35:41 audit committee can uh also help support
2:35:43 the community in that way. Um, thank you
2:35:46 so much. I look forward to meeting
2:35:47 everybody on the committee and and
2:35:49 helping uh bring my expertise to the
2:35:52 table to uh help ensure that the audit
2:35:55 committee is uh keeping up the highest
2:35:57 standards of financial integrity. Thank
2:36:00 you so much. Thank you, Miss Fox. and
2:36:02 congratulations again. Uh, next is item
2:36:06 8.2, Tucson Unified School District
2:36:09 Administration, fiscal year 25 hiring
2:36:12 freeze and fiscal year 26 administrative
2:36:15 position reductions. Dr. Chuno,
2:36:19 yes, an extra members of the governing
2:36:21 board. Uh, just a note for our board
2:36:22 members, we did revise an attachment. So
2:36:25 now the attachment noting
2:36:28 FY26 positional reductions will
2:36:30 encompass a list of fully vacant
2:36:33 positions. So any position that has been
2:36:35 occupied has been removed from that list
2:36:37 as we go forward with uh tonight's
2:36:40 consideration. Um earlier in the spring,
2:36:43 uh the administration of course
2:36:44 committed to exacting um anywhere
2:36:48 between three and a half to$4 million in
2:36:50 cuts across the administration uh with
2:36:53 an effort to try to cut into the
2:36:54 year-over-year $8.5 million deficit that
2:36:58 we've seen between last year's operating
2:37:00 budget and this year's operating budget
2:37:01 or one coming up for fiscal year 26. And
2:37:05 as part of that work, we wanted to take
2:37:06 a wanted to start with all of the
2:37:09 different vacancies that could be
2:37:11 categorized as administrative. And I
2:37:14 know that it's sort of popular sentiment
2:37:17 to think of the administration as me or
2:37:19 1010. When you're staring down an $ 8.6
2:37:22 million budget, uh cutting eight or nine
2:37:25 positions at a at
2:37:27 $130,000 a pop is not going to get you
2:37:30 very far, right? So, you have to cut
2:37:32 beyond that. Secondly, the auditor
2:37:34 general defines administrative spending
2:37:37 as all of the areas that are outside of
2:37:39 a general school or outside of a general
2:37:41 classroom. So I think when John Q public
2:37:43 hears administration they think the
2:37:45 principal, the assistant principal, the
2:37:47 superintendent, the director, the
2:37:49 assistant superintendent, but it really
2:37:51 administration is a category of
2:37:53 expenditures and it ranges from school
2:37:56 safety to finance to human resources
2:38:00 work that's done on behalf of our
2:38:01 employees to
2:38:03 secretarial/administrative assistant
2:38:05 work in offices across the district. A
2:38:07 lot of some of our operations positions
2:38:09 are categorized as administrative
2:38:11 spending. And as I've said before, even
2:38:14 though these positions are vacant, their
2:38:16 absence will still affect schools in
2:38:18 some way in terms of a reduced capacity
2:38:22 to serve in the particular area. So the
2:38:25 administration formed a team uh we did a
2:38:27 cross-dep departmental
2:38:29 uh team of managers, supervisors,
2:38:31 leaders, superintendent, leadership team
2:38:33 members, representatives of the affected
2:38:35 department to really talk about this
2:38:38 list and in terms of what their
2:38:40 department and what their work area
2:38:42 looks like if these positions are not
2:38:45 filled. So here to take us through
2:38:47 tonight uh is uh Mr. Hernandez. Uh this
2:38:50 is a study action item. to the board. Of
2:38:52 course, we know these are big decisions.
2:38:54 You can choose to keep this as a study.
2:38:56 Um, we want to make sure that uh the
2:38:59 board has plenty of time to digest the
2:39:01 information and we've asked uh Mr.
2:39:03 Hernandez to go through and give the
2:39:05 overview. Yeah. Good evening board
2:39:07 members and I I do have uh John
2:39:09 Fernandez uh with me on the HR side. So,
2:39:13 um just getting started. So, just a
2:39:16 quick background. Uh so the goal of the
2:39:19 hiring freeze and the per and the
2:39:22 reductions was really to achieve a $5.3
2:39:24 million salary and benefit savings
2:39:27 across the institution. Um we looked at
2:39:29 all permanent positions that were vacant
2:39:32 as of March 7th. That is for the freeze.
2:39:35 Um we looked at positions that were
2:39:37 funded by M whether it's DEG or non DEG
2:39:40 M and the or the indirect costs fund.
2:39:42 Um, just for some uh some context,
2:39:45 indirect costs is revenue that we
2:39:47 generate off of federal grants. And so,
2:39:50 you know, we we actually generate about
2:39:53 three between 3 and 4% off of those
2:39:56 federal grants, but as we've seen those
2:39:58 grants and the amounts reduce,
2:39:59 particularly with the disappearance of
2:40:01 ESSER, the revenue that that fund
2:40:04 generates is obviously dwindling. Um, we
2:40:07 exempted several pos several items, so
2:40:09 non-permanent supplemental positions.
2:40:11 So, for example, going into summer
2:40:13 school jobs, those are, you know, those
2:40:15 can continue to be hired. We've exempted
2:40:17 all positions in the exceptional
2:40:18 education department, whether they're
2:40:20 administrative service providers or
2:40:22 teachers or support positions, the
2:40:24 exceptional education department is
2:40:25 exempt. Anything that is school-based
2:40:28 with school budgets, right? So, we've
2:40:31 established the school budgets already.
2:40:32 They finished their budgeting process
2:40:34 back in the middle of March. And so, we
2:40:36 continue to fund those classroom or
2:40:38 school support positions funded by
2:40:40 central department. So, we've got Dr.
2:40:42 Ashcraft here. Her department funds
2:40:45 basically all the fine arts uh positions
2:40:47 in K through 8. And so, that's what we
2:40:49 mean by school or classroom support
2:40:52 positions that are funded by a central
2:40:53 department. And then positions in an
2:40:55 onboarding process. So, obviously, we
2:40:57 wanted to make sure that people who were
2:40:58 in a in the position of being hired um
2:41:01 or had a job offer at the March 1 job
2:41:03 fair, we could continue to make sure to
2:41:04 onboard those individuals. We didn't
2:41:06 want to stop them in their tracks. So we
2:41:08 took all of these criteria and
2:41:10 implemented a freeze. The hiring review
2:41:13 committee that Dr. Thrujeo just
2:41:14 mentioned comprised members of senior
2:41:16 leadership and we brought in you know
2:41:18 manage members of management. So uh
2:41:21 people in the senior leadership role
2:41:24 spoke or connected with their managers
2:41:26 their directors to essentially evaluate
2:41:28 the positions. We held weekly meetings.
2:41:30 We actually are still holding them till
2:41:32 today to evaluate all these positions in
2:41:35 the process of freezing these through
2:41:37 the end of June. Um HR notified all of
2:41:40 the departments on March 19th of all of
2:41:42 the affected positions on that day. That
2:41:45 position listing is updated weekly,
2:41:47 right? Because obviously we've got
2:41:49 constant turnover taking place and all
2:41:51 of the vacancy savings from those
2:41:54 positions that have been frozen have
2:41:55 essentially been frozen themselves
2:41:57 through the end of the fiscal year. So,
2:41:59 if a position uh let's just, you know,
2:42:02 an admin assistant leaves in the middle
2:42:04 of March has left essentially, let's
2:42:06 say, $15,000 on the table and an unused
2:42:08 salary, we've frozen that salary. We've
2:42:11 set it aside. It will be unused. It will
2:42:13 go unused. Now, we we established
2:42:15 criteria to review positions that
2:42:18 prioritize obviously the health, safety,
2:42:20 and the services to students, right? We
2:42:22 wanted to make sure that not everything
2:42:24 gets frozen that there were positions,
2:42:26 for example, campus monitors. We have
2:42:28 some crossing guards for example that
2:42:30 will continue. We have locksmiths that
2:42:31 will continue to be hired. So some of
2:42:33 them have been evaluated for uh
2:42:36 recruitment today as of now because
2:42:38 those are so critical that we need to
2:42:40 make sure that they're hired before the
2:42:42 of the new fiscal year. Um so this is
2:42:45 you know kind of a a lengthier list of
2:42:47 the criteria. So the direct impact to
2:42:48 instruction to academic intervention to
2:42:51 support services any operational
2:42:53 necessity if we have compliance in legal
2:42:56 mandate. So, for example, when I
2:42:57 mentioned crossing guards, a lot of
2:42:59 those crossing guards are with
2:43:01 agreements that we established either
2:43:02 with the city of Tucson or Puma County
2:43:04 government for various intersections
2:43:06 that work, you know, and and that are
2:43:09 identified by um Mr. Halls in the school
2:43:12 safety department. So, and then we ask
2:43:15 departments to think about the
2:43:16 availability of alternative solutions to
2:43:19 their existing structure. Right? So if
2:43:21 we freeze your position, obviously
2:43:22 you've got 2 months, 3 months to
2:43:25 continue to do that work. Is there an
2:43:28 alternative structure to continue with
2:43:29 the process of the work that has to get
2:43:31 done knowing full well that our budget
2:43:33 is getting smaller? Right? So we have to
2:43:35 essentially, you know, the unpopular
2:43:37 term is we have to rightsize you
2:43:39 somehow, but we want directors to take
2:43:41 that leadership role and to focus on how
2:43:43 you do that. Um so positions that are
2:43:46 frozen right now cannot be filled um
2:43:49 until unless it meets the freeze
2:43:51 criteria. Now departments have just
2:43:53 completed their budgeting process. We're
2:43:55 going through a process of cleaning
2:43:56 everybody's fiscal year 26 budget.
2:43:59 Departments are going to be able to fill
2:44:00 these vacant frozen positions if their
2:44:03 budget capacity exists on July 1. Right?
2:44:06 So they have now to they now have to
2:44:08 establish capacity after incorporating
2:44:10 either the 3% or 6% budget cut. if they
2:44:14 had a descent redu reduction budgeting
2:44:17 for any potential uh changes in salary.
2:44:19 So we ask all departments to ac to
2:44:22 budget for a 1% for planning purposes
2:44:25 and there was a 2% increase in the cost
2:44:27 of benefits. So after all of those
2:44:29 elements are incorporated as part of
2:44:31 their budgeting process, can I fit that
2:44:33 admin assistant back on July 1? If they
2:44:35 can, great. You can hire, you can
2:44:38 recruit now. That person can't start
2:44:40 until July 1, right? we want to make the
2:44:42 savings happen this side of the fiscal
2:44:44 year. But if you go through that process
2:44:47 and you still cannot fill that position
2:44:49 because you don't have the capacity to
2:44:51 fund both their salary and their
2:44:53 benefits, then that position is reduced
2:44:55 and that position will be
2:44:57 closed. So that essentially takes us to
2:45:00 the position reduction. So we notified
2:45:02 all of the departments on April 21st of
2:45:04 all positions that were identified as
2:45:07 permanent reductions in the fiscal year.
2:45:09 They identified these positions. finance
2:45:11 did not. We confirmed with departments
2:45:14 to tell us, hey, in your budget file,
2:45:16 you told us that you're not going to
2:45:18 fill, you know, this position X and
2:45:21 we'll just kind of use the admin
2:45:22 assistant example. You're not going to
2:45:23 fill that admin assistant. Can you just
2:45:26 confirm for me that that is correct? And
2:45:29 we receive confirmations from all of
2:45:31 these departments through the budgeting
2:45:33 process. you know, we will close those
2:45:36 positions as those reductions happen
2:45:38 because if that department doesn't have
2:45:40 the capacity after going through the
2:45:42 reductions that they were supposed to,
2:45:44 then they they can't fill that position.
2:45:46 Now, they could cut other portions of
2:45:48 their budget and fill the position,
2:45:51 right? Say, hey, I have a large, you
2:45:53 know, contract services that I'm not
2:45:55 going to do next year. It's about
2:45:57 $50,000, but I'm going to be I'm going
2:45:59 to cut that so that I can save the admin
2:46:01 assistant. They can absolutely do that.
2:46:03 That is how we do budgeting in this
2:46:05 district is we empower the directors to
2:46:07 make those choices for the operations of
2:46:09 their
2:46:10 department. Now, as of April 24th,
2:46:13 obviously this listing is now updated on
2:46:15 on uh board docs, we had 64 and a half
2:46:18 FTE that are were identified with salary
2:46:20 and benefits totaling just over $4.1
2:46:23 million. The vast majority were vacant
2:46:26 positions. The listing that you have now
2:46:28 in Boardocks are all vacant positions.
2:46:31 All right. So that that is the revision
2:46:33 that has happened since this
2:46:34 presentation was uploaded. Now if there
2:46:37 are positions that have incumbents, we
2:46:40 will work with those. They will be
2:46:42 subject to any district initiated
2:46:43 transfer or reduction in force process
2:46:46 based on their bargaining agreement and
2:46:48 that will be managed by the human
2:46:50 resources department if that becomes the
2:46:52 case. Otherwise, if it's a vacant
2:46:55 position, we're going to close with the
2:46:57 direction to not fill. That way a
2:46:59 department can't go back and say I I now
2:47:01 want to fill that but you don't have the
2:47:05 capacity. Any questions? Governing board
2:47:09 members. Miss Shaw um the direction to
2:47:12 not fill us for some of these um
2:47:16 vacancies. Would that be just until July
2:47:19 1 or um after that? The so the hiring
2:47:23 freeze list the the permanent reductions
2:47:25 list. Let's start with that one. That
2:47:27 one is the do not hire. Um those are
2:47:29 positions that departments have
2:47:31 confirmed themselves through their
2:47:32 budgeting process that they do not have
2:47:34 the capacity to accommodate that FTE. So
2:47:37 those that listing of positions, I
2:47:39 believe it's about 50 plus FTE that are
2:47:42 on there, those positions will be
2:47:44 permanently closed and those dollars
2:47:46 were will be permanently cut from the
2:47:48 budget. the one the listing of hiring
2:47:50 freezes, the longer list that's multiple
2:47:53 pages, that one, those savings are
2:47:55 frozen through the end of June 30th. If
2:47:57 those departments have accommodated
2:47:59 budget capacity on July 1, they will be
2:48:02 able to to hire them. And the vast
2:48:04 majority of those that are frozen will
2:48:07 will be hired. Um, it's really the
2:48:09 reductions that are no longer going to
2:48:11 be available on July 1. That is a
2:48:13 permanent reduction to everybody's
2:48:15 budget.
2:48:19 Dr.
2:48:20 Shaw. Uh, thank you, President Extrom,
2:48:23 and thank you for the presentation
2:48:25 tonight, uh, Mr. Hernandez. Um, and so,
2:48:28 you know, I don't think any of us want
2:48:29 to cut any positions, and even if
2:48:30 they're vacant, we know that there's a
2:48:32 lot of work that needs to happen in our
2:48:34 schools, and we want to make sure the
2:48:36 work can continue, whether it's
2:48:38 transportation, facilities, you know,
2:48:40 and others.
2:48:43 Um, I know we've had a lot of
2:48:45 conversation the last couple of months
2:48:46 uh about our budget situation. Uh, and I
2:48:49 think uh we need
2:48:51 to remember like why we are where we are
2:48:54 at. And a lot of it is because of a
2:48:56 significant budget cut if you take in
2:48:58 inflation that the state has pushed onto
2:49:01 our school districts and public
2:49:03 education at a tune of what five or 6%
2:49:05 budget cuts that we've been seeing uh
2:49:07 after inflation. And so we need to make
2:49:10 some tough decisions because how much
2:49:11 percentage of our of our budget is
2:49:13 salaries and benefits? About 90%. 90%.
2:49:16 So 90% of our budget is going to
2:49:17 salaries and benefits. And we have a
2:49:19 five or six% budget cut. U millions upon
2:49:21 millions of dollars that we're not
2:49:22 getting after inflation from the state
2:49:24 that's not meeting its needs to fund
2:49:27 public education. And we're left uh
2:49:29 where we're at. Um, one of my questions
2:49:33 to you is, so how and I see it in the
2:49:35 documents, but can you just review uh
2:49:37 how much are we saving uh from the
2:49:39 hiring freeze and how much from the
2:49:41 permanent position reductions? So from
2:49:44 the hiring freeze, we're saving about 2
2:49:46 million um 2 million bucks. I believe I
2:49:49 may have put that in there. So from the
2:49:51 hiring freeze
2:49:54 4.9 million 4.9 after almost $5 million
2:49:57 after, right? So that's money that will
2:49:59 go unspent and will become part of carry
2:50:01 forward is $5 million and I see $3.5
2:50:04 million for the permanent reductions,
2:50:07 right? And those are dollars that will
2:50:08 just disappear off the budget. Do you
2:50:10 have that um divided up with M DG
2:50:13 indirect? I don't I don't think there's
2:50:14 any title one or other budget sources
2:50:16 that are there's one title one
2:50:18 position assessment and revaliation.
2:50:20 Everything else is I do I mean there are
2:50:23 labeled I didn't summarize them but they
2:50:25 they all are either M or indirect. Some
2:50:27 of them are DEG. Most of them are M
2:50:29 though. Most of them are M. So we don't
2:50:32 have a ballpark in terms of how much we
2:50:33 save. I mean I would I would say
2:50:34 probably about about 60% of it is going
2:50:37 to be M. The remaining balance is going
2:50:39 to be DEG. Indirect is probably going to
2:50:41 be the smallest amount. And then we have
2:50:42 the one title one
2:50:44 position. So about even 30 or 40% is
2:50:47 DEG. We've been talking over the last
2:50:49 couple of months about budgets and um
2:50:52 aligning the budgets that we are
2:50:54 spending through DEC to that $63 million
2:50:56 fixed uh budget that we have. If we
2:50:58 approve this, do we need to make any
2:51:01 cuts in departments or is all included
2:51:03 in this? Those so those cuts are already
2:51:06 going to be incorporated in the budget
2:51:07 cuts. So if for example, I believe there
2:51:10 are some MTSS coordinator positions in
2:51:12 there that are uh DECG funded. those are
2:51:15 all going to be incorporated as part of
2:51:17 the METTSS budget uh that they've
2:51:20 submitted. They've already said we're
2:51:22 we're not filling those positions.
2:51:24 They're vacant. So, those budgets have
2:51:26 already accounted for the cuts that you
2:51:28 see there in the DEG uh
2:51:40 budget. Thank you. Um, okay. So, just to
2:51:44 be clear, the
2:51:47 uh vacant positions under hiring freeze
2:51:49 document with several pages that is to
2:51:53 remove that position up until July 1st.
2:51:58 Yes, ma'am. Okay.
2:52:01 Um and then at which
2:52:04 um they will be back up for um like back
2:52:11 like posted again. Yeah. Okay.
2:52:14 Does that leave uh those departments
2:52:16 enough time to hire? So we're letting
2:52:18 them hire now, right? So if they if
2:52:21 they've identified through the budgeting
2:52:22 process that one of those positions on
2:52:24 the hiring freeze is not permanently
2:52:26 reduced, they can start recruiting today
2:52:28 so that that person can start on July 1.
2:52:30 Okay. Okay. And I believe you're going
2:52:35 to I believe human resources is going to
2:52:37 open those up next week. Yeah. So May
2:52:40 5th they're going to be able to start.
2:52:46 Dr. Truhe. Yeah. I think it's important
2:52:47 to clarify. So, we've got two goals. Uh,
2:52:50 number one, with that hiring freeze
2:52:52 until June 30th, goal number one is to
2:52:55 identify any available carry forward
2:52:58 dollars this fiscal year that can help
2:53:00 us um burn down this this current year
2:53:03 deficit. And then with the permanent
2:53:05 reductions, those are permanent cuts to
2:53:07 permanently reduce our expenditure uh
2:53:10 obligation to further chip into the
2:53:12 long-term structural deficit that we
2:53:14 have. Correct. And to take you a little
2:53:16 bit deeper just for the people watching
2:53:18 Ricky. Um so so when I'm on the freeze
2:53:21 list which is again frozen till the end
2:53:23 of this fiscal and then again July one
2:53:26 is because July one's the new fiscal
2:53:28 year right budgets are refreshed correct
2:53:31 and if I am in say transportation just
2:53:35 because I see a couple of these
2:53:36 positions here and if I've reworked my
2:53:39 budget in a way where now I freed up
2:53:42 some additional capacity
2:53:45 um I can now go hire my 1.0 0 automotive
2:53:48 parts technician because that wasn't on
2:53:50 the permanent cuts list. Correct. Okay,
2:53:52 that's right,
2:53:57 Miss Luna Rose. Miss Shaw. All right,
2:54:00 thank you. At the sake of sounding
2:54:04 um maybe not this bright that bright on
2:54:06 this issue. So, I mean, I understand the
2:54:10 term hiring freeze, but can you explain
2:54:13 on how how does this save money if we're
2:54:17 going to if the positions are open? So,
2:54:20 so right now, for example, taking the
2:54:22 example that Dr. Druh used, right? So,
2:54:24 we've got an automotive parts tech. That
2:54:26 position has been vacant since, let's
2:54:28 say, March 1st. They, you know, that
2:54:30 position for a fullear salary may be
2:54:33 $50,000. They only worked all the way to
2:54:35 March. So, they've left about $15,000 on
2:54:39 the table. That 15 is now frozen, will
2:54:42 go unspent. We will not allow the
2:54:44 transportation department to access
2:54:46 those dollars. In fact, we've swept them
2:54:48 into a central account so that they
2:54:50 can't do that. And then as those
2:54:53 positions need to be filled for July 1,
2:54:55 they're going to be filled with budget
2:54:57 from FY26. So that those dollars as we
2:55:00 start accumulating them because they're
2:55:02 savings, we're sweeping them into the
2:55:05 budgets where they live, where they were
2:55:06 funded from. Um so that just becomes
2:55:10 unspent dollars that become part of our
2:55:12 carry forward fund balance. On July 1,
2:55:15 it's a whole new ball game, right?
2:55:16 Everybody starts with a new slate. And
2:55:18 so as long as you've accommodated those
2:55:20 positions within the budget capacity
2:55:21 that you were provided, you can continue
2:55:23 to hire a lot of those positions that
2:55:25 are on that list. Obviously, you know,
2:55:27 we've got about 50 FTE. I mean, the vast
2:55:31 majority of those um on the hiring
2:55:33 freeze list, they're going to get hired
2:55:35 and they're going to be allowed. They're
2:55:36 going to be um open for recruitment as
2:55:39 soon as possible. Okay. Thank you. Can I
2:55:42 address her question? So, like year
2:55:44 after year, we had vacancy savings and
2:55:46 that's what led to a lot of our surplus
2:55:47 and carry forward. So, we're asking to
2:55:48 do tonight is to formalize the vacancy
2:55:51 savings by by just making it that we're
2:55:53 not going to approve any more positions
2:55:54 of this list for the rest of the year.
2:55:56 So, if we don't do anything and they
2:55:58 don't get hired, there'll be vacancy
2:55:59 savings anyway. What we're doing
2:56:00 tonight, if we approve this, is to
2:56:02 formalize that. I see. Okay.
2:56:06 Um Okay. Thank you. That makes sense.
2:56:09 Okay, Miss Shaw. Thank you. Um and then
2:56:13 for the position
2:56:15 reductions, those are not
2:56:18 permanent or are those are permanent.
2:56:21 Okay. Because there are some positions
2:56:22 um I'm looking at the internal auditor
2:56:24 that I want to um be posted. Um and I
2:56:30 think there's others that we uh should
2:56:32 explore as well. Um some of these
2:56:34 positions are at like 25 FTE, some from
2:56:37 the finance department. Does that mean
2:56:39 like a reduction in some staff's like
2:56:42 hours or do we have people who are like
2:56:44 less than half time? So that that budget
2:56:48 analyst in the finance department for
2:56:50 example is um funded by multiple line
2:56:52 items. That position is a full-time FTE.
2:56:55 Um but they're split three different
2:56:57 ways. I believe they're digg and
2:57:00 indirect costs. Okay. So that is one
2:57:03 entire person. Um, and I can tell you
2:57:05 that person is retiring and so we're
2:57:07 just not filling that position. Okay.
2:57:09 Thanks for clarifying.
2:57:12 Dr. Trio, you also wanted to say that
2:57:14 the the major purpose for us bringing
2:57:16 this list is is for uh the board to
2:57:19 consider what governing board member
2:57:20 Shaw has already started giving us
2:57:22 direction and identifying positions that
2:57:24 you would like to see pulled off uh so
2:57:26 we can take that direction accordingly.
2:57:28 Yeah, I I will say with the operations
2:57:31 just because I know that that's been
2:57:32 kind of vocalized is that each of the
2:57:34 operations directors, facilities,
2:57:36 transportation, school safety, they
2:57:39 identified all of these positions as
2:57:41 part of their operations. In other
2:57:43 words, they've evaluated can I am I able
2:57:46 to continue the level of service, let's
2:57:47 say in the school safety department
2:57:49 without these FTEEs. And so this is
2:57:52 something that they individually have
2:57:53 identified and determined this will not
2:57:56 affect my ability to serve um through
2:57:59 that department. So just I want to make
2:58:02 sure I point that out.
2:58:04 Um and there's also quite a bit from
2:58:07 both um pots coming out of EDI. Um and I
2:58:11 would like us to kind of review what
2:58:14 they've been doing lately. um and um you
2:58:18 know keeping some staff in that
2:58:20 department. Yeah. The the EDI assistant
2:58:22 superintendent those s that salary was
2:58:25 split split out three ways. Um and
2:58:29 Asian-American, African-American, and
2:58:31 Mexican-American student services each
2:58:33 received $33,000 from the vacancy
2:58:36 savings from the EDI assistant
2:58:38 superintendent uh in order to put on
2:58:40 their summer programs this year. So
2:58:42 that's what happened with the vacancies
2:58:44 this year. we won't be realizing any
2:58:46 vacancy savings from EDI uh before F2
2:58:50 FY25. FY26 is a different story.
2:58:52 Obviously to Dr. Thrujillo's point, if
2:58:55 the direction from the board is you want
2:58:56 to maintain that assistant
2:58:58 superintendent position, we will
2:59:00 maintain it and we will pull the budget
2:59:02 capacity back from the departments um
2:59:04 that currently have allocated that
2:59:05 money.
2:59:09 Mr. Omero, then Dr. Shaw. Yes. So on
2:59:12 that uh short list um you know one of
2:59:15 the biggest ones that sticks out to me
2:59:17 was also mentioned at the call for the
2:59:18 audience again is our internal um
2:59:21 auditor I guess you know and they're
2:59:23 also built into our org chart also. So
2:59:27 for my um I would want to at least pull
2:59:31 that off and consider other ones as
2:59:34 well.
2:59:36 Dr. Sure. Yeah. Um so for this is for
2:59:39 the audience or anybody listening
2:59:41 online. Um you know I I I ask and
2:59:44 recommend that you contact your state
2:59:46 legislature. Like we're in the position
2:59:47 because of severe budget cuts and I wish
2:59:50 we could reverse uh the budget cuts that
2:59:52 the state has pushed onto public
2:59:54 education. Uh that said, and I think our
2:59:57 in light of the budget that we have, I
3:00:00 think the public, I think taxpayers, I
3:00:01 think our our our
3:00:03 our people here in in TUSD's area is
3:00:07 expecting us to make some tough
3:00:08 decisions in light of the budget
3:00:10 situation that we have. And um you know,
3:00:13 we need to make some cuts. And
3:00:15 unfortunately, we can't just cut
3:00:16 professional development and uh travel
3:00:19 and other things. we don't have the 304
3:00:22 $50 million uh to cut in those budgets
3:00:25 with 90% of our money going towards
3:00:26 salaries and benefits. Uh and so I think
3:00:29 we need to make some difficult
3:00:31 decisions. Uh and I will make a motion
3:00:33 to approve the item uh tonight to um
3:00:37 approve the hiring freeze and a
3:00:39 permanent closed positions subtracting
3:00:40 out the internal auditor from that
3:00:43 permanently closed position.
3:00:46 I will second. There's a motion by Dr.
3:00:48 Shaw. Second by Liz Ms. Luna Rose. Any
3:00:52 other discussion? Miss Shaw? Yeah. Um I
3:00:55 just want to get some clarity on the EDI
3:00:58 department like do will they still have
3:01:01 a staff with these permanent reductions?
3:01:04 So the EDI department will not have a
3:01:07 staff. Uh the only person who will be
3:01:10 left uh is the program manager, Dr.
3:01:13 Hurley, who uh supports the performance
3:01:16 impact analysis process. Um the services
3:01:20 essentially have been distributed out to
3:01:22 the three DEG funded student services
3:01:24 departments at this point.
3:01:28 Dr. Sha and I turn it over to Dr. Trillo
3:01:30 to kind of clarify some of that. I think
3:01:33 I I don't want the public to think that
3:01:34 we're cutting EDI that we're responding
3:01:36 to anything federally that we're doing
3:01:37 anything at this point. The EDI work is
3:01:39 continuing but in a different form. Yes.
3:01:42 Yeah. That's a very very important um so
3:01:44 you have a situation where you have
3:01:46 these vacancies okay you have the
3:01:49 vacancy at assistant superintendent you
3:01:50 have a vacancy for program coordinator
3:01:53 and then most recently for the senior
3:01:55 director those duties had to be
3:01:57 reassigned because the work had to be
3:01:59 moved forward so there's a split between
3:02:02 African-American student
3:02:05 services Native American student
3:02:07 services and APARS Asian-Pacific and
3:02:09 refugee student services absorbing the
3:02:12 work. A lot of that work involves
3:02:14 advocacy. Uh a lot of that work uh also
3:02:17 involves programmatic evaluation to make
3:02:19 sure that that decisions made about
3:02:22 resources and allocation of resources
3:02:24 are done with an equity focus and then
3:02:26 of course representation uh when there
3:02:29 are disciplinary situations with our
3:02:31 students. So that that work is
3:02:33 happening. It's just been assigned to
3:02:35 our student service departments. Yeah.
3:02:36 And and a point of clarification, the
3:02:38 senior director of EDI is uh supervises
3:02:42 the magnet department. So that position
3:02:43 obviously at this point will continue.
3:02:46 Um that is uh Mr. Terabat's position.
3:02:49 Oh, that is correct. Magnet coordinator
3:02:50 does continue. Yeah. So that
3:02:52 traditionally the the senior director
3:02:54 for EDI a major focus of that work was
3:02:56 magnet because we're talking about
3:02:58 equity and equitable access to
3:02:59 specialized programming. So we do have
3:03:02 to have a magnet director. So that is a
3:03:05 position that the board can consider,
3:03:07 you know, in terms of being the lead
3:03:09 administrative point person for these
3:03:11 initiatives as well. So I just want to
3:03:14 reiterate our district's commitment to
3:03:16 equity work, to diversity work, to
3:03:18 inclusivity, access. These are concepts
3:03:20 that are very important to success in
3:03:23 our district and we are not shying away
3:03:25 or moving away from any of that work as
3:03:27 we continue to make sure that we we
3:03:29 build a a school district and
3:03:31 opportunities for our students that need
3:03:33 it.
3:03:34 Absolutely. We've got very robust
3:03:36 student service departments um doing
3:03:38 some very innovative things in this
3:03:40 field and they'll continue to do so. Uh
3:03:43 and of course we've got our magnet
3:03:44 director position uh which of course is
3:03:46 not on this list. I I know that is not
3:03:48 on the list for that very but it is a
3:03:50 commitment for the post-unitary status
3:03:51 plan. So we had to keep it off of this
3:03:53 list for the magnet director.
3:03:56 I will just say um whenever I was
3:04:00 contacted by
3:04:02 LGBTQIA groups um wanting to make sure
3:04:06 that their um work was still provided um
3:04:10 by the district, Mr. Terabody stepped
3:04:13 right in and and did commit to that work
3:04:16 and it did get done. So I am comfortable
3:04:20 with um who's ever in that position to
3:04:23 continue that work. Um, and I I just
3:04:26 also want to reiterate we are not
3:04:28 getting rid of of
3:04:31 EDI again. I just want to say, you know,
3:04:34 it's been doled out to our um student
3:04:38 services department and I think they're
3:04:41 doing amazing work and we're still
3:04:44 continuing to provide for our students,
3:04:46 but we do need to make
3:04:49 um some hurtful cuts. So, this is where
3:04:53 we're at.
3:04:54 Yes, Michelle. Just uh last point of
3:04:57 clarification. Will the department still
3:05:00 exist or is it just being totally
3:05:02 absorbed by the student services
3:05:04 departments? It at at this point, I
3:05:07 mean, it will be absorbed by the three
3:05:10 um DEC funded student services
3:05:11 departments. Native American Student
3:05:13 Services as a point of clarification
3:05:14 does not receive Dside funding but in
3:05:17 order to be equitable to that department
3:05:19 we did provide them also a supplemental
3:05:21 um fund uh funding from impact aid which
3:05:24 is the majority of where they are
3:05:25 funded. So essentially the the
3:05:28 department EDI will not exist in name
3:05:32 but the work will now be done by the EDI
3:05:34 student services departments
3:05:36 essentially.
3:05:38 Um and then will um Mr. Tarvat's um
3:05:43 scope of work change or who's going to
3:05:46 handle um issues related to the LGBTQ
3:05:49 community? We are going to keep the
3:05:51 scope of work exactly the same as the
3:05:54 position he is leaving. So that work
3:05:56 will be assigned to whoever the newly
3:05:58 hired administrator coming in will be.
3:06:01 And for the um issues related to the
3:06:03 LGBTQ community um will that will
3:06:07 whoever takes that position yes like how
3:06:10 will the community know who to contact?
3:06:12 That's going to be when we hire that
3:06:15 particular uh position that is going to
3:06:17 be the lead administrative point person
3:06:20 for any issues related to inclusiveness
3:06:23 in this district equal access
3:06:24 opportunity and inclusiveness. And going
3:06:27 forward, we actually see more of that
3:06:28 position being a liaison in terms of
3:06:31 interfacing with the student services
3:06:33 departments to follow up on different
3:06:35 cases and different situations working
3:06:37 with counselors in schools and um I
3:06:40 think that we have an opportunity here
3:06:42 to really enhance that position as long
3:06:44 as well as its service to magnet
3:06:46 schools.
3:06:48 Dr. Shaw, Dr. T, can you just make sure
3:06:50 that someone from the career community
3:06:52 is on the selection committee for the
3:06:53 new position when it's hired?
3:06:55 Absolutely. Thank you. Good
3:06:57 governing board members. Any other
3:07:01 questions, comments,
3:07:06 concerns? Okay, there's a motion and a
3:07:09 second on the floor. All those in favor
3:07:11 say I. I. I. Those opposed? Motion
3:07:16 passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank
3:07:17 you.
3:07:25 Uh next is uh 9.1 desegregation bud
3:07:29 budget study session number five
3:07:32 technology services fine arts and human
3:07:34 resources. Dr. Trio. Yes, President
3:07:37 Extramm uh board members. Uh this is one
3:07:40 of our final desegregation study
3:07:42 sessions uh of the season uh before we
3:07:45 start getting into the work of preparing
3:07:46 drafted reductions. Up first in what
3:07:49 will be a series of brief presentations,
3:07:52 okay, uh is our technology services
3:07:56 department um and our executive director
3:07:59 for its Mr. Robbie Hamay. All right.
3:08:04 Thank you, Dr. Trillo, President Xram,
3:08:07 board
3:08:08 members, council Ross. I'll give you a
3:08:11 very brief introduction of our team
3:08:15 which you know already and uh give you a
3:08:18 summary of the uh 10% cuts in our desite
3:08:22 budget. Um I'll play you a small video
3:08:26 that uh if I don't play the video, the
3:08:28 team behind me will get mad at me. So uh
3:08:31 I better do it and then uh we'll be
3:08:33 happy to answer any questions uh that
3:08:35 you may have. By the way, the team is
3:08:37 standing behind me here, sitting behind
3:08:38 me. So, if you can raise your hand and
3:08:40 also we have two people in front of you
3:08:42 here that you may not know they're part
3:08:44 of technology services, Maria and Jean,
3:08:46 but they are and they're we're very
3:08:47 happy to have them. But, uh, anyway, let
3:08:49 me give you introduce your team. I'm
3:08:52 sorry. Can you team by name? Uh, sure.
3:08:54 Uh, Jean and Maria. We know Gene and
3:08:56 Maria,
3:08:59 Tracy, Linda, and Chris and Trent.
3:09:03 And uh those folks are the leaders of uh
3:09:07 about 12 to 25 to 50 people each and
3:09:11 they support and lead our 110 FTEEs for
3:09:15 technology services who support uh the
3:09:18 district. Uh but anyway, we're happy to
3:09:20 have them and uh and hopefully we'll uh
3:09:23 have the team for a very long time
3:09:25 because as you see on the screen,
3:09:27 there's a lot of things that we do
3:09:29 behind the scenes or sometimes not
3:09:31 behind the scenes in in the schools.
3:09:33 I'll very briefly briefly go over uh
3:09:35 those topics. I will not take any time
3:09:37 but if you have any questions by all
3:09:39 means uh cyber security, disaster
3:09:41 recovery, data backup and and access
3:09:44 control uh things like network
3:09:47 infrastructure. Uh in the middle there
3:09:49 you see that we have 80,000 plus
3:09:52 technology devices. Those are laptops,
3:09:55 tablets, phones, printers, active
3:09:57 boards, you name it. 80,000. That's a
3:10:00 pretty large for any organization to to
3:10:03 support uh fiber optic wide area network
3:10:06 and local area network, wired and
3:10:08 wireless uh communication, cloud
3:10:11 architecture, etc., etc. Again, that's
3:10:14 the whole network that support all our
3:10:16 students and teachers and staff and keep
3:10:19 us going uh day after day
3:10:22 24/7. Uh some of the items as well, we
3:10:25 do have a customer service center as you
3:10:27 know, technology services now houses the
3:10:30 service centers where folks can call
3:10:31 work orders for transportation or
3:10:34 facilities or technology and we can fix
3:10:36 or escalate. Uh we have things like
3:10:38 strategic planning and uh project
3:10:40 management where we coordinate with the
3:10:42 uh with other operation departments or
3:10:45 uh schools. Uh we have uh life cycle for
3:10:49 our onetoone device initiative. As you
3:10:51 know a laptop can survive 3 to 5 years
3:10:54 an active board 5 to 10 years etc. We
3:10:58 have our research and development team.
3:11:00 We have our policies and processes that
3:11:03 need to be updated on regular basis. We
3:11:05 have our artificial intelligence that
3:11:07 the team behind me presented to you a
3:11:09 couple times and hopefully next time
3:11:11 that policy will be approved uh by you
3:11:14 that'll be great. We have things like
3:11:15 robotics and drones you name it. So all
3:11:17 the technology a that we have to keep
3:11:20 for all the schools but also that we
3:11:22 have to look for the future as well
3:11:24 because if we don't then we'll have uh
3:11:26 outdated technology that will not serve
3:11:28 uh our district or our students or our
3:11:30 community. Our team pretty much is made
3:11:34 up of about five distinct groups. You
3:11:37 you see on top the instructional
3:11:39 technology and online education. Those
3:11:41 are the folks um who um who who are 50%
3:11:46 teachers, 50% trainers. They train the
3:11:49 teachers and staff on anything
3:11:50 technology. Uh Tracy behind me, you met
3:11:52 her several times. She's their senior
3:11:54 director. We have our field support team
3:11:56 also that Tracy manages. Those are the
3:11:59 folks who are in the field about 40 of
3:12:02 them. They reside at the school and
3:12:04 they're our first first line of defense.
3:12:06 So the first time an email doesn't work
3:12:08 or printer doesn't work or an active
3:12:09 board or somebody a teacher cannot take
3:12:12 attendance or uh the payroll somebody
3:12:14 did not get their paycheck or stuff like
3:12:16 that, our technology uh system can
3:12:19 attend and then escalate. Then you have
3:12:21 the information technology
3:12:22 infrastructure at the bottom there.
3:12:24 Those are the folks that you don't see.
3:12:26 uh they are the ones who fix your
3:12:27 wireless systems, your cloud computing,
3:12:29 your data centers. Uh if you escalate to
3:12:32 one of those folks, that means there's a
3:12:34 uh you know a main problem that you have
3:12:36 to fix. Uh and that's why uh those
3:12:38 people operate behind the scenes. As I
3:12:41 said, you have your customer service
3:12:42 center. We take call for transportation
3:12:44 facilities and technology and we try to
3:12:47 resolve them online or the phone or we
3:12:49 escalate. And of course, and we have our
3:12:50 application and data services. Chris
3:12:53 behind me is the leader of that team.
3:12:56 They're the folks who do the student
3:12:57 information system, the finance system,
3:12:59 enrollment, programming, uh inventory,
3:13:02 uh you name it. So, and under there
3:13:05 there's a small link about the video,
3:13:06 but let me go to the budget first and
3:13:08 then we'll end with the video and then
3:13:10 if you have any questions and as as
3:13:13 promised, I would like to be uh as brief
3:13:15 as I can. As you see on the bottom
3:13:17 there, our DSAC budget for this year was
3:13:19 1.4 million. a little bit a little bit
3:13:22 uh that more than 1.475 475 and with a
3:13:25 reduction 10% reduction of about 147,000
3:13:29 we'll be at 1.3 million about uh you see
3:13:33 on top the items in red is what we cut
3:13:37 and you see that there were some cuts
3:13:39 for a classified salary that I'll tell
3:13:42 you about in detail uh some cuts to the
3:13:44 benefits of the of the salary and then
3:13:47 some cuts for programs such as mainly
3:13:50 professional development that happened
3:13:51 in the summer uh where uh we uh you know
3:13:55 they're they're funded by DSAG and those
3:13:57 are some of the programs that are uh
3:13:59 going away at least for the for the time
3:14:01 being. Uh and also you see on top u
3:14:04 maybe at the very bottom under where it
3:14:06 says non-payroll that large number
3:14:09 395,000 that's that pays for school city
3:14:12 that's the online testing that all the
3:14:14 schools do. So obviously we're not doing
3:14:15 doing any cuts there, but for the items
3:14:18 in red that you see in parenthesis,
3:14:20 those are where the cuts are are
3:14:21 happening. And uh that makes again 1.4
3:14:24 million. 10% of that is about 140,000, a
3:14:27 little bit more. And that's where our
3:14:29 cuts are. The uh FTE that we had to uh
3:14:33 uh cut was a vacant programming
3:14:36 position, a very important position, but
3:14:39 it was vacant. It was not filled for
3:14:41 about 6 months or more. So that's the
3:14:43 one where uh we we we we had to make the
3:14:46 difficult cut and go from 11.10 FTE that
3:14:50 are paid by DAG to 10.10 and uh the
3:14:54 words you see on top there EBAS is
3:14:55 evidence-based accountability system
3:14:57 that came with the DAG case of course
3:15:00 where you see the uh word CSC at the
3:15:03 very in the middle that means uh
3:15:05 customer service center. So if you have
3:15:07 any questions on acronyms, please uh let
3:15:09 me know. But mainly that was the cut.
3:15:11 Those are the folks uh again and their
3:15:14 leaders are sitting behind me that are
3:15:16 being paid by DAG. They're either paid
3:15:18 by full DAG or 50% or 40% uh when when
3:15:22 those teams were created and we had to
3:15:24 let go of one programmer position uh of
3:15:27 that. But uh if you have any questions
3:15:29 you may ask me or again just so that I
3:15:32 don't get in trouble let me play that
3:15:34 video if we can Jean and then if you
3:15:36 have any questions uh you can ask me or
3:15:38 ask
3:15:40 [Music]
3:15:46 us the Tucson Unified School District
3:15:49 has been experiencing a ransomware
3:15:52 attack since Monday. What happened in
3:15:53 2023 can't happen again. That's exactly
3:15:56 why I'm here. Technology services has
3:15:59 worked hard to implement robust security
3:16:01 systems. But the truth is the most
3:16:03 critical factor in preventing cyber
3:16:05 threats is the user. It's not just about
3:16:07 training. It's about cyber security into
3:16:10 every aspect of educational technology.
3:16:13 Since 2023, I've been building cyber
3:16:15 security focused courses from the ground
3:16:18 up, tailored specifically to our
3:16:20 district's needs. But these aren't
3:16:22 ordinary courses. They're interactive,
3:16:25 engaging, empowered by industryleading
3:16:27 software to provide teachers and staff
3:16:30 with hands-on practical learning. One of
3:16:32 our district's biggest edtech
3:16:33 investments is interactive panels. But I
3:16:36 don't just train teachers on how to use
3:16:38 them. I ensure they're properly managed
3:16:40 and secured. I ensure that access to
3:16:42 student information and assessment data
3:16:44 is protected, helping educators utilize
3:16:47 secure online assessment tools that
3:16:50 prevent unauthorized access and data
3:16:52 breaches. I also work to strengthen
3:16:54 secure communication through Zoom,
3:16:56 ensuring virtual meetings remain
3:16:57 protected from external threats while
3:16:59 maintaining compliance with student
3:17:01 privacy regulations. Beyond training, I
3:17:03 provide direct support through our
3:17:05 customer service center, ensuring staff
3:17:07 have the resources they need. I'm also
3:17:09 developing in-house gamified and
3:17:11 interactive applications, creating safer
3:17:14 digital learning environments. These
3:17:17 apps are not only secure, but are being
3:17:19 used by teachers in record numbers.
3:17:21 Looking ahead, artificial intelligence
3:17:24 is becoming a major player in education.
3:17:26 I'm not just teaching teachers how to
3:17:28 use AI. I'm ensuring we implement it
3:17:31 responsibly, keeping students data safe
3:17:33 and secure. When I'm here, teachers are
3:17:35 empowered, schools are protected, and
3:17:38 students can learn without fear or
3:17:40 digital threats. I'm safeguarding the
3:17:42 investments made in our district's
3:17:43 future. I am disagregation funding and
3:17:46 technology services. I'm not just a line
3:17:48 on a budget sheet. I'm the one training,
3:17:51 supporting, and protecting our schools,
3:17:53 students, and staff every single day.
3:17:58 [Music]
3:18:00 All right. And with that, if you have
3:18:01 any questions, I'll be happy to answer.
3:18:04 Governing board members, any
3:18:05 [Music]
3:18:08 questions? Thank you. Thank you for your
3:18:11 presentation and the video. Thank you.
3:18:16 Uh, next is fine arts desegregation
3:18:22 presentation. Dr.
3:18:27 Ashcraftoft. Good evening, President
3:18:30 Extrom, governing board members, Dr.
3:18:33 Trillo, and Legal Council Ross. Thank
3:18:35 you for your time this evening. I will
3:18:37 be brief and let our actions much of
3:18:40 which you've already seen even some of
3:18:42 the board members tonight going to a
3:18:44 presentation of MA at Linew Weaver. So
3:18:47 in on the first slide oh I guess I have
3:18:50 to do this don't
3:18:52 I? There we go. Our mission statement
3:18:55 simply is to be committed to providing
3:18:57 educational experiences which foster
3:19:00 creative exploration, build community
3:19:03 relationships, and honor the universal
3:19:05 thread of humanity. I'm not going to go
3:19:08 through the details of all the different
3:19:10 things that we do in our position, but
3:19:12 rather point out to you that this
3:19:14 weekend is the MA showcase. We have over
3:19:17 300 students who will be performing on
3:19:19 Saturday. in the choir alone are 210
3:19:23 students. We have uh several different
3:19:25 groups that will be performing on that
3:19:27 event and we do invite you to that. I've
3:19:29 left with the board administrative
3:19:31 assistance the actual program which I
3:19:34 think we also mail to you and also
3:19:35 tickets as well. That event is
3:19:38 called the MA showcase. What's your
3:19:42 superpower? And in that we're going to
3:19:45 talk and perform music that demonstrates
3:19:47 the many powers of the arts for
3:19:51 students. In looking at what we're going
3:19:54 to do in terms of cutbacks, we obviously
3:19:57 use district leadership and I must say
3:19:58 that finance was very helpful to us in
3:20:01 that. site administrators and our
3:20:03 program specialists, meaning our
3:20:05 discipline-based fine arts teachers and
3:20:08 our arts integration specialists and
3:20:09 teaching
3:20:11 artists. So, here is the budget this
3:20:14 particular year. Our allocation you see
3:20:16 there at the top
3:20:19 1,24788. Our required reduction was
3:20:23 125,000. We accomplished this reduction
3:20:27 actually more than we needed to. We
3:20:30 reduced
3:20:32 134,68 with a
3:20:34 $9,600 reduction beyond the target. And
3:20:38 then our reduction target, the number
3:20:40 for next year you see there at about
3:20:43 1,113. This reduction in service was a
3:20:46 result of us cutting maintenance and
3:20:48 repair of musical instruments because we
3:20:51 do have some money for that. But we also
3:20:54 have some very
3:20:57 incredibly generous donors who are
3:21:00 funding us with additional monies for
3:21:02 reads, strings,
3:21:05 um some of the instruments, of course,
3:21:08 even lots of demonst we have a lot of
3:21:10 people that have actually donated
3:21:12 instruments, but also we've had to cut
3:21:14 supplies, clay, paint, etc. We had a
3:21:19 donator donor this year who's actually
3:21:22 helped us restore that budget cut.
3:21:24 That's going to help us somewhat. And
3:21:26 then finance helped us move 2.5 of our
3:21:30 MA FTE to the classroom site funding
3:21:34 allocation based on the fact that that's
3:21:36 what our teachers do. All of our staff
3:21:39 are in the schools 100% of the time. And
3:21:42 then we had a 6 EMC cataloger that we
3:21:45 chose not to fill. By the way, we've
3:21:50 been changing these exhibits up here.
3:21:52 The this exhibit is about our
3:21:54 educational material center and the
3:21:56 multicultural artifacts now numbering
3:21:58 over 10,000 that go out to the schools
3:22:01 on a regular basis to be used in the
3:22:03 classrooms, core curriculum classes as
3:22:06 well as the arts classes. So, we wanted
3:22:08 you to see some of those. And the other
3:22:10 thing I'm very proud about is the middle
3:22:12 school band festival that you see in
3:22:14 black and white photos over there taken
3:22:16 by Jess that demonstrates the students
3:22:19 abilities to be
3:22:22 creative. So of course we followed uh
3:22:26 certain restrictions what the consensus
3:22:29 agreement said the leadership mandates
3:22:32 student enrollment for the schools and
3:22:34 the scheduling for the K8s and the new
3:22:36 K6 schools. And we've talked before
3:22:39 about the Omen instrumental instruction
3:22:42 for kindergarten through 8th grade that
3:22:44 goes on. I talked about that I think the
3:22:47 last time I was here. So I've just
3:22:48 listed it for you
3:22:50 again. Now in my last few minutes, I
3:22:54 thought it would be very interesting for
3:22:56 you to see a two-minute video that Mary
3:22:59 Kanty and her staff created. This is on
3:23:02 a wonderful collaborative project that
3:23:04 we've been able to fund through the
3:23:06 University of Arizona School of Music
3:23:09 through the R TUSD educational uh
3:23:13 exceptional education department and the
3:23:15 fine arts department in which we have
3:23:17 been researching the impact and the
3:23:19 power of the arts, music specifically
3:23:23 and movement, the performing arts to
3:23:25 really impact learning for special ed
3:23:28 children. This was done uh under
3:23:33 principal Ron Ronsman's approval at
3:23:37 Warren Elementary and with Joshua Floyd.
3:23:40 The other handout I have for you tonight
3:23:42 that the assistants will give to you
3:23:45 later. We completed this little one of
3:23:48 our publications here. It's about the
3:23:50 two-year research study that we did on
3:23:53 exceptional music experiences. And in
3:23:55 it, we've included some lesson plans for
3:23:58 teachers to use. All of our teachers
3:24:00 will receive this training during the
3:24:02 summer. Our goal is to continue this
3:24:05 study for an additional two years and to
3:24:08 expand it to more than just Warren
3:24:10 School. So, Jean, could you please play
3:24:13 this two-minute
3:24:18 video? Hello. Hello.
3:24:20 all exceptional at all kids with varying
3:24:22 degrees of intellectual disabilities and
3:24:25 emotional disabilities.
3:24:28 I'm working on hand eye coordination.
3:24:30 I'm working on fine and gross locomotive
3:24:32 skills. I'm working on
3:24:38 verbalizations. Blowing in the
3:24:41 wind. Can you put one stick in each hand
3:24:45 and see if you can make circles with
3:24:46 both hands? In art, we're working online
3:24:49 and like
3:24:52 content. In music, we're working on city
3:24:54 beat and rhythmic
3:25:00 competency. Some of the activities are
3:25:02 more for an outlet for kids to explore,
3:25:06 to experience something, to create
3:25:08 something.
3:25:17 [Music]
3:25:20 for the older group. We're going to see
3:25:22 something that's been a little bit more
3:25:24 scaffolded. We went through the
3:25:26 exploration phase already and we've been
3:25:29 preparing to give the students a chance
3:25:32 for something.
3:25:56 I found
3:25:57 that laughter is contagious. I found
3:26:00 that when kids are allowed freedom to
3:26:02 play a little bit that they will
3:26:05 surprise me and give me a lot of uh joy.
3:26:11 Being able to work with these kids in a
3:26:13 way that scaffolds their learning in a
3:26:15 way that gets them building on skills
3:26:17 that are not only necessary for their
3:26:20 success in music, but also for their
3:26:22 success in other life domains. I think
3:26:24 it's really special being able to
3:26:26 present them with something that might
3:26:29 look like a music activity on its face,
3:26:30 but really touches on so many other
3:26:33 areas of their development.
3:26:38 Thank you, Jean, and thank you, Mary,
3:26:40 for that wonderful video. So, that's all
3:26:44 I've got to say except for planning to
3:26:46 the future, which I was asked to
3:26:47 address. We are so committed to the arts
3:26:50 for kids. Doesn't matter what our form,
3:26:52 but we are committed to it and we intend
3:26:56 no matter what the budget is to continue
3:26:58 these life-changing, empowering
3:27:00 experiences for our children. And thank
3:27:03 you for your incredible support over the
3:27:05 years and to Dr. Trujillo as well. Any
3:27:09 questions? Uh, no. Dr. Ashka, thank you
3:27:12 so much for that video. I've been to
3:27:14 Warren a couple of times and they were
3:27:17 just implementing this. So, it's really
3:27:19 amazing to see that they've done the
3:27:22 work and I know that they've also tried
3:27:24 to get the preschoolers into um doing
3:27:27 some um so that was really amazing to
3:27:30 hear and to see. And just like on a
3:27:33 personal level, um my daughter being
3:27:35 able to read music, she can play her um
3:27:40 recorder, but now she can play the piano
3:27:42 and of course the violin. That's
3:27:45 something
3:27:46 that I never had access to and so it's
3:27:50 just really amazing that Tucson Unified
3:27:53 um is able to provide this to our
3:27:55 students. So, thank you so much for your
3:27:58 advocacy and really to the board
3:28:02 for making this a priority to for our
3:28:07 students. Miss Luna Rose. Okay. Thank
3:28:09 you, Miss Ashcraft.
3:28:12 um a comment and then a question. So um
3:28:16 well actually I'll I'll reverse it.
3:28:17 Let's do a question first. Um so I'm
3:28:20 looking here at the production of
3:28:22 service and I know you said like with
3:28:24 clay somebody has donated so some of
3:28:27 that has come back. Um are you looking
3:28:30 into I'm assuming um you've been looking
3:28:32 into maybe perhaps some grants or any of
3:28:34 those sort of um avenues to curtail or
3:28:38 to supplement. Yes, absolutely we are.
3:28:41 But the thing that's amazing to me is
3:28:43 the support of the community. It it it
3:28:46 blows my mind really uh particularly in
3:28:49 the last few years with the donation of
3:28:51 instruments uh and the funding that we
3:28:53 have gotten for things we couldn't do.
3:28:56 And I mean we have a lot of schools that
3:28:58 say well we need supplies for mainly for
3:29:01 visual arts is is the shortcoming there.
3:29:04 and we have found people to step up and
3:29:06 we're hoping that it's not going to be
3:29:07 forever. But we also know that there is
3:29:10 this $10 fee that middle school kids can
3:29:13 pay for for some of their materials.
3:29:15 I've noticed some of the schools like
3:29:16 McGee is doing that. We hope we don't
3:29:19 have to implement that, but we will use
3:29:21 all other resources first. Okay. Okay.
3:29:23 That's good to hear. And just I want to
3:29:25 bounce off Miss Extramm's comment. You
3:29:27 know, my daughter started at SU, which
3:29:29 is, you know, our normal gold, and is
3:29:32 now part of the marching band at
3:29:33 RingCon. So, I know that the arts have
3:29:35 been um and she's also in drama at
3:29:37 RingCon, so I know that's um Oh, I know.
3:29:40 Believe me, um my schedule is busy. Uh
3:29:43 that but what my point being is that the
3:29:45 arts has has really enhanced her time
3:29:48 here in the district. So, I'm hoping
3:29:50 that um that's also
3:29:52 reflective among her peers. Thank you,
3:29:56 Dr. Shaw, and then Miss Shaw. Uh, thank
3:29:58 you, President X. Thank you for the
3:30:00 presentation. Dr. Ashcraftoft, I'll do
3:30:02 the same thing, a question first and
3:30:03 then a comment. Uh, on the 134,000
3:30:07 135,000 reduction, how much is actually
3:30:09 a reduction and how much is moving to
3:30:10 another uh fund. I was a little confused
3:30:13 on what the reduction service is. It's
3:30:15 not really a reduction if we're just
3:30:16 moving into another fund. Well, of that
3:30:19 the 2.6 six uh FTE 2.5 FTE is moved to
3:30:23 the classroom piece but everything else
3:30:26 is a reduction. So for instance the
3:30:28 maintenance repair it's reduced by
3:30:30 12,000 and supply 7,000. Um and the
3:30:33 cataloger we just don't we don't need
3:30:35 that 6 position.
3:30:38 So how much is an actual reduction then
3:30:40 from the budget?
3:30:42 It's well it's
3:30:45 134,68 some of that being moved the 2.5
3:30:48 FTE being moved to the M budget. Okay.
3:30:51 So that I'm not including that cuz
3:30:53 that's not a reduction. That's a moving
3:30:54 to another budget source. So that's how
3:30:55 much is an actual reduction. Uh well the
3:30:57 12,000 plus is 7,000 and the cataloger
3:31:00 position which is less than 15. Okay.
3:31:02 Yeah. I wouldn't I wouldn't include like
3:31:03 when we're moving to other funds as
3:31:05 sources of actual reduction. we're just
3:31:07 now using other sources of funding for
3:31:09 that and we don't have any extra sources
3:31:11 of funding. But I just wanted to clarify
3:31:13 that to make sure I understood that. And
3:31:15 I guess my comment again just echoing a
3:31:16 lot. You know, I got to go see an opera
3:31:18 about space tonight and my kids had a
3:31:20 great time performing and so it was
3:31:21 great to see that. So thank you to you
3:31:23 and your team and uh to Mrs. Fields and
3:31:26 everyone who has been so engaged and
3:31:28 involved on arts and music uh education,
3:31:30 especially for elementary school
3:31:31 students. It's been a pleasure. Thank
3:31:33 you,
3:31:35 Michelle.
3:31:37 Thank you for your presentation and for
3:31:38 all of your work. Um I mean to me Dr.
3:31:42 Shaw it is a reduction because we're
3:31:44 talking about DEG and so if it's moved
3:31:46 out of DEG technically it's a reduction
3:31:50 in the DEG budget. I don't know. Um
3:31:55 but my question is uh you mentioned that
3:31:58 like you have received some donations
3:32:00 that help you like um uh you know keep
3:32:05 some of these programs going. Are those
3:32:07 donations from individuals mainly or are
3:32:10 we seeing businesses like local
3:32:11 businesses um like Michaels or Sarnoffs
3:32:15 or other places like um support TUSD's
3:32:18 fine arts? They are from
3:32:21 individuals. Okay.
3:32:24 Interesting. Well, I always see like
3:32:27 free art supplies on Craigslist. Just
3:32:30 saying. I don't know if like if our
3:32:32 teachers utilize that. Um, but it's like
3:32:35 a constant.
3:32:37 Um, what else was I going to say? Well,
3:32:40 we do have large donations that come in,
3:32:43 you know, in terms of instruments that
3:32:45 have been in the family for a number of
3:32:46 years that are no longer being used. But
3:32:48 we have had visual arts donations like
3:32:51 easels and things like that. Oh, nice.
3:32:54 Okay. Yeah. So, we we have a and also
3:32:57 you know the multicultural artifacts we
3:32:59 get beautiful things from the community
3:33:02 that gives those Yeah, those are so
3:33:04 great. Um let's see. And
3:33:09 um surprised to hear that like McGee is
3:33:12 um I don't know if it's $10 that's
3:33:14 optional to participate in fine arts. Is
3:33:17 that like um uh typical for Well, I just
3:33:22 discovered that the other day and I am
3:33:24 going to be looking into that to see how
3:33:26 many middle schools are actually
3:33:28 implementing that, right, for their art
3:33:30 department. Yeah, cuz I had not heard of
3:33:33 it. Like I know when you go to art
3:33:35 school and at the college level, there
3:33:38 are significant um costs for that. And
3:33:41 so I don't really know since my
3:33:42 daughter's in um middle school and she's
3:33:45 not in art right now. um if that's a
3:33:48 thing and especially at the high school
3:33:49 level if that's something like I know
3:33:51 maybe for photo but can you speak to
3:33:54 that for like high school level the high
3:33:56 school budgets are not in the fine arts
3:33:59 department we certainly support them in
3:34:01 other ways but we are not responsible
3:34:02 for supplies for them or for their FTE I
3:34:06 see okay good to know well thank you
3:34:09 thank you Mr. for America. So, just a
3:34:12 quick question. You mentioned the
3:34:14 donations. I know a lot of these school
3:34:16 sites have their tax credits where
3:34:18 people can go send money to them for
3:34:21 their Do you do you have that in your
3:34:23 department? We very interesting history.
3:34:26 When we started, we were able to gather
3:34:30 thousands of dollars of tax
3:34:32 credit universally to use for our
3:34:35 programs. And then of course the program
3:34:37 got more defined by the state and now
3:34:40 each school of course has their tax
3:34:42 credits that they raise. So there is a
3:34:45 fund for fine arts there's kind of a
3:34:47 universal fund that has to be voted upon
3:34:50 and there's also an MA fund.
3:34:52 Additionally of the lot of the schools
3:34:54 put out the elementary schools on their
3:34:57 websites for additional donations. So we
3:35:01 have we have a lot of
3:35:03 resources I'm happy to say. I'm not sure
3:35:06 all districts do. We're very fortunate.
3:35:08 Thank you. And I will just add uh
3:35:11 Lineweaver PTO does give um money to
3:35:16 Mrs. Fields and helps her with um
3:35:19 whatever supplies she may need like
3:35:21 paints and I think she's updating um
3:35:24 some of the instruments that need uh
3:35:28 repair. So um PTO does a lot of that too
3:35:31 at different schools. I hadn't mentioned
3:35:33 that. That's very true. Yeah, they
3:35:35 do. Any other
3:35:37 questions? Thank you. Thank
3:35:40 you. Uh, next is the human resources
3:35:43 desegregation budget
3:35:49 presentation. All right. I want to
3:35:50 introduce our uh, chief human resources
3:35:53 chief human capital officer, Mr. John
3:35:55 Fernandez, and take us through the
3:35:57 recommendations.
3:36:01 Okay. Uh good evening, Madam President
3:36:03 and members of the board. Um thank you
3:36:05 for the opportunity to review our
3:36:06 desegregation budget uh request for
3:36:09 FY2026 uh as it as it applies to our
3:36:11 human resources department. I'm joined
3:36:14 tonight by Monica Sanchez, our director
3:36:16 of recruitment and talent acquisition
3:36:18 who oversees much of the activities that
3:36:20 we'll be discussing
3:36:22 tonight.
3:36:24 Um before you is our mission. This is
3:36:27 our mission statement actually put
3:36:29 together collectively by our our team uh
3:36:32 in human resources and and as you can
3:36:34 see embedded in our mission is this
3:36:36 commitment to developing a and you know
3:36:39 recruiting and retaining a pipeline of
3:36:41 talent um that is that reflects a safe
3:36:45 diverse equitable workplace uh reflects
3:36:47 our inclusive community because we
3:36:49 believe that this contributes ultimately
3:36:51 to student success and continuous
3:36:53 improvement. So this is already embedded
3:36:55 into everything that we do. Uh what
3:36:57 whatever source of funding it comes
3:37:00 from. Um that's our day-to-day
3:37:05 work. With regard to our role and
3:37:07 responsibility in this context, um we've
3:37:10 been I mean our our role and
3:37:12 responsibility really is to ensure that
3:37:14 we are enhancing the racial ethnic
3:37:17 diversity of our administrators and
3:37:20 certified staff throughout the district.
3:37:22 And we do this through all of our
3:37:23 activities from recruitment to hiring to
3:37:27 uh looking at compensation to address
3:37:29 you know to looking at employee
3:37:30 discipline. We do this through the
3:37:32 establishment of of of uh standard
3:37:34 operating procedures that are really
3:37:36 aimed at creating a a systematic or
3:37:39 systemic approach to equity and and and
3:37:42 inclusiveness. Uh the five areas that we
3:37:44 talk about is strengthening recruitment
3:37:46 of a diverse applicant pool. uh making
3:37:48 sure that our practices, our hiring
3:37:50 practices are fair and equitable. Uh we
3:37:53 are active and aggressive in going to uh
3:37:56 you know recruiting events to make sure
3:37:58 that we are uh reaching wide to try to
3:38:01 especially in this time of teacher
3:38:02 shortage and educator shortage to make
3:38:05 sure we are local and regional events or
3:38:07 even across the country to try to make
3:38:09 sure that we are recruiting um you know
3:38:11 for our district and also to host the
3:38:14 job fairs that TUSD hosts uh to support
3:38:16 our schools within the Tucson uh area.
3:38:19 Um we do have responsibility for
3:38:21 administering recruitment and retention
3:38:24 incentives. Uh we'll get into more
3:38:26 detail as to what those activities are.
3:38:29 And then part of that is also really uh
3:38:31 focusing on how we can grow our own uh
3:38:33 teachers and leaders from within our
3:38:35 current um labor pool within our
3:38:37 community within our current
3:38:42 workforce. Uh just a brief uh overview
3:38:45 of the ORC chart.
3:38:47 Um the the desegregation budget uh funds
3:38:51 5.6 six FTEES uh within our
3:38:54 organizational chart. We have about a 40
3:38:56 person team in the office. Um again
3:38:59 funded by M and indirect cost mostly but
3:39:02 where the desegregation budget comes
3:39:03 into play is they supports the um the
3:39:06 director the recruitment manager and
3:39:08 then a portion of other positions in
3:39:10 this department that assists with
3:39:12 supporting the recruitment of uh of
3:39:15 applicants ensuring that they are hired
3:39:17 and onboarded and also meeting the
3:39:19 monitoring compliance and reporting
3:39:21 requirements that we have uh been
3:39:23 responsible for over the years. So
3:39:26 that's really where the personnel
3:39:27 support comes in uh from the budget that
3:39:30 we
3:39:31 get. This is an outline of the programs
3:39:33 and stipens um that we support in HR. Um
3:39:37 so be ju just briefly I mean we have the
3:39:40 aspiring leaders uh program which is
3:39:43 really geared at helping employees who
3:39:45 want to obtain their masters or
3:39:47 principal s to be able to um to be able
3:39:50 to receive an incentive to pursue that
3:39:53 opportunity. uh we have our grow your
3:39:55 own programs which include our Arizona
3:39:57 teaching fellows through the University
3:39:58 of Arizona to really support student
3:40:02 teachers and then helping them become
3:40:04 teachers of record. So we so those are
3:40:06 both recruitment and retention stipens.
3:40:09 uh pathways to teaching is also a
3:40:11 similar program uh helping to support
3:40:14 TUSD staff to obtain their bachelors and
3:40:16 then move on or with the bachelors move
3:40:18 on to their teachers start by again uh
3:40:21 providing some support to them as they
3:40:23 become as they move on the path towards
3:40:26 uh uh becoming teacher of record. Um
3:40:28 make the move is another is what we
3:40:30 offer to our TUSD staff who have our BA
3:40:32 who have their bachelors and again
3:40:34 you'll see it's it's it's basically uh
3:40:37 recruitment and retention. We don't just
3:40:38 give it once. We kind of do it over
3:40:40 multiple years to allow them to receive
3:40:42 an incentive to move from perhaps being
3:40:45 a parapro into a teaching position. Hard
3:40:48 to fill uh used to be really math,
3:40:50 science, and exceptional education. A
3:40:53 lot of our focus recently has been on
3:40:55 XED, and we fund this through this
3:40:57 $5,000 one-time stipen uh that you see
3:41:01 on our list.
3:41:02 um the two-way dual language program.
3:41:04 Two dual language teachers receive an
3:41:06 ongoing $5,000 per year stipen uh which
3:41:10 has really helped with regard to filling
3:41:11 positions and maintaining a very low
3:41:13 turnover rate in our dual language
3:41:15 programs. And then our teacher diversity
3:41:17 plan uh that's you know under the USP
3:41:20 was really uh a focus on targeted
3:41:23 schools uh you know requiring HR to
3:41:27 support incentives to help teachers um
3:41:30 you know move to and work in these
3:41:32 targeted schools uh in order to increase
3:41:35 the diversity at those particular
3:41:37 communities. Uh and again this is all in
3:41:39 the in the USP plans and reports that
3:41:42 we've been documenting over the years.
3:41:45 um as and again it resides in HR as our
3:41:48 chief
3:41:49 [Music]
3:41:52 responsibility. This is what our adopted
3:41:54 FY2025 HR budget looks like. It's a
3:41:57 basically a
3:41:58 1.7 you know million dollar uh
3:42:01 allocation and this is the breakdown in
3:42:04 terms of the budget allocated to each of
3:42:06 the programs and activities that we just
3:42:08 talked about from aspiring leaders down
3:42:10 to the teacher diversity program.
3:42:13 recruitment support really uh it
3:42:15 reflects the 5.6 FTEEs uh and
3:42:18 recruitment activities that that um are
3:42:20 supported as part of u our recruitment
3:42:23 team and their and their efforts and
3:42:25 then a small amount related to some of
3:42:27 the support services relative to
3:42:30 recruitment and hiring. So that comes to
3:42:32 a total of 1.7 million a little bit
3:42:34 over. Um, as we were tasked with kind of
3:42:38 reviewing the budget for
3:42:39 FY2026, we tried to use these principles
3:42:42 to guide us in that decision-making.
3:42:43 Number one was understanding the need to
3:42:46 align our budget with regard to fiscal
3:42:49 realities. And so our target was let's
3:42:51 see what we can do to hit that 10%
3:42:53 reduction while maintaining our mission.
3:42:56 Uh number two is that you know we really
3:42:58 have been able to build out a strong
3:43:00 recruitment team that is very active and
3:43:02 and uh able to be present you know in in
3:43:05 in hiring events throughout the region
3:43:07 and also supporting uh our heart to fill
3:43:10 areas like X said transportation food
3:43:12 services. So they do a lot of work
3:43:14 inside and outside of of the district to
3:43:16 try to uh address our recruitment
3:43:18 challenges. And then number three, uh
3:43:21 what's what will look like reductions in
3:43:24 part is really going to be a realignment
3:43:26 of the recruitment and retention stipens
3:43:28 based on utilization data and projected
3:43:31 needs. So these are stipens that have
3:43:32 existed over the past several years in
3:43:34 reviewing how many uh people are you
3:43:37 know how many candidates are coming
3:43:38 through the pipeline, what the needs are
3:43:40 for next year. We made some adjustments
3:43:42 to the 26 budget to reflect um you know
3:43:45 those uh
3:43:48 projections. So this is how we uh um
3:43:51 came to our 10% reduction. So you'll see
3:43:54 that the aspiring leaders program, we
3:43:57 actually uh proposed reducing it in
3:44:00 total. It's about a $50,000 program. Um
3:44:03 that that activity supports five
3:44:06 candidates per year to obtain you know
3:44:08 um their masters or their principal. Um
3:44:12 we I think we're finding that you know
3:44:14 based on the other activities and based
3:44:16 on the fact that we work very closely
3:44:18 with other leadership development
3:44:19 activities such as leadership prep
3:44:21 academy and our principal boost program
3:44:23 that we actually you know are have seen
3:44:25 more success uh kind of working with
3:44:28 leadership prep and boost academy and we
3:44:30 want to be able to continue to focus our
3:44:32 efforts there while also being you know
3:44:34 um conservative with our resources. So
3:44:37 we we propose a reduction in that line.
3:44:40 uh our grow your own programs uh looks
3:44:42 like it's a reduction of $30,000 that
3:44:45 really is just based on actually the
3:44:46 pipeline of participants that are coming
3:44:48 through each year and that we project
3:44:50 for next year. So it is a continuous
3:44:52 support for the program but really based
3:44:54 on who we know will be coming through in
3:44:56 the coming year. Uh same thing with make
3:44:58 the move the number went up uh because
3:45:01 of the number of employees that are
3:45:02 utilizing the alternative teaching
3:45:04 pathway teacher pathways. So while we
3:45:06 reduce on one line, you'll see make the
3:45:08 move increase. Um and the hard to fill
3:45:11 uh based on again our projections, we
3:45:13 increase those lines as well. The
3:45:15 teacher diversity uh plan is where
3:45:17 you'll see the biggest reduction of
3:45:20 $180,000. Uh and that's basically
3:45:22 reflective of the progress that has been
3:45:24 made in order to incentivize uh teachers
3:45:28 to teach in these targeted schools. Um,
3:45:31 and at this point they're, you know,
3:45:33 there aren't as many openings at these
3:45:34 schools to fill. So, you'll see that we
3:45:36 continue to support the program and pay
3:45:38 out what are essentially three-year
3:45:40 stipens, but looking ahead, uh, we we
3:45:44 don't believe that that that there's
3:45:45 that same level of need at this point.
3:45:47 So, with $73,000, we'll still have those
3:45:50 incentives available. Um, but there will
3:45:52 just there aren't just there aren't as
3:45:54 many uh available positions at that
3:45:56 point to to justify a higher amount.
3:46:00 dual language. Um, this is a $5,000
3:46:04 stipen throughout the duration of a dual
3:46:07 language teacher's employment. So, it is
3:46:10 uh we're we are I mean, and just due to
3:46:12 the budgetary uh situation, we're
3:46:15 recommending a reduction of $5,000 to
3:46:17 $3,000 continuing to be on an ongoing
3:46:20 basis. Uh we do know that it is helpful
3:46:22 to recruit and to retain. I think we're
3:46:25 in the 90 to 100% retention rate for
3:46:28 dual language teachers and we're going
3:46:29 to want to monitor if this goes through.
3:46:31 We're still going to want to monitor um
3:46:33 the the turnover to make sure that we're
3:46:36 not negatively impacting it. Um but in
3:46:39 light of our fiscal realities, we just
3:46:41 proposed keeping it but at a lower level
3:46:43 and is again an ongoing stipen
3:46:45 throughout their employment in that
3:46:47 position. Um, so in total that's a
3:46:51 $175,000 reduction uh that beats the 10%
3:46:55 goal and allows us to continue uh our
3:46:58 mission u based on our projected needs
3:47:01 and our uh real aggressive recruitment
3:47:03 uh infrastructure that we've
3:47:05 built. Um in the event that there is our
3:47:08 funds available, we said this is this is
3:47:10 what it would take to restore those
3:47:11 activities that were reduced. Um but
3:47:14 again subject to uh additional revenues
3:47:17 that are available otherwise we would
3:47:19 you know operate under that um proposed
3:47:22 2026 budget as
3:47:25 presented. So uh with that um I don't
3:47:28 have a video but it's a long night so
3:47:31 happy to take any questions at this
3:47:33 time. I didn't think of a video so we
3:47:35 would have done that. Any questions for
3:47:38 Mr. Fernandez?
3:47:42 Yes Mr. Romero.
3:47:45 So, so thank you very much. And one of
3:47:48 the things that you kind of did mention
3:47:50 and you know again this is all
3:47:52 discussion uh the dual language you know
3:47:55 with that stipen and I know the proposal
3:47:57 to drop it on down um to that
3:48:01 um by being in a lot of these schools.
3:48:04 Again this is right on the this is at
3:48:07 the site level that we're seeing uh that
3:48:09 affected. Um my concern again just would
3:48:13 be lowering it for those people that are
3:48:17 there. Are they going to feel like
3:48:19 they're not deservant of that amount?
3:48:23 You know, that's just again retention of
3:48:25 these teachers. I see how important this
3:48:28 is at these schools. I didn't know
3:48:30 that's something again with Ricky maybe
3:48:34 moving forward anybody new gets a 3,000
3:48:36 but everyone that continues out you know
3:48:39 for that to maintain that amount because
3:48:42 I'm sure they're they've planned their
3:48:44 you know their their world around that
3:48:48 stipen yeah so the overall amount that's
3:48:50 dedicated we you know we've kind of
3:48:52 budgeted that out there we have talked
3:48:54 about different ways to administer the
3:48:56 stipen uh we didn't want I I think at
3:48:58 this were concerned about discontinuing
3:49:00 it um or restructuring when there was an
3:49:03 expectation of continuous uh stipens you
3:49:06 know throughout the duration of their
3:49:08 employment in that position but it is
3:49:09 something that we talked about and uh we
3:49:11 can continue to explore within our
3:49:13 budget allocation. I do think that the
3:49:16 interesting things thing about this
3:49:17 stipen is almost serves as a
3:49:18 compensation adjustment because it's not
3:49:21 a one-time or a short-term stipen. It's
3:49:23 a permanent stipen. So we essentially
3:49:26 you know in addition to whatever
3:49:27 compensation gets has has been approved
3:49:29 over the years has become an additional
3:49:32 kind of bonus payment uh built into
3:49:34 their pay for the you know for those
3:49:36 years. So uh we could evaluate different
3:49:39 structures um but at this point we were
3:49:41 kind of you know that would take some
3:49:42 time to phase in so that we could you
3:49:44 know raise clarify the expectations for
3:49:46 those who are currently employed and
3:49:48 make sure that we don't move too
3:49:51 dramatically to affect the retention of
3:49:53 these again we're at 90 to 100% which is
3:49:56 really amazing for uh so we do want to
3:49:58 keep it in at a high level but we can
3:50:01 definitely talk to Ricky and look at
3:50:02 different options um so we can bring
3:50:04 that back to the board about you know
3:50:06 going forward.
3:50:07 Thank you,
3:50:09 Dr. Sha.
3:50:12 Yeah, I was looking at that line item a
3:50:13 little worried about that too because I
3:50:14 know in the past year I think right now
3:50:16 we're doing good in terms of uh open
3:50:18 positions, dual language. I know in the
3:50:20 past we've had some issues trying to
3:50:21 recruit and retain folks in dual
3:50:23 language. Um and so I don't want to go
3:50:25 back to that. I think this is a really
3:50:26 important program that both is is great
3:50:28 educational benefit for the students as
3:50:30 well as draws a lot of uh parents and
3:50:32 families into the district. So, I want
3:50:34 to be careful that we don't mess up that
3:50:35 program and hurt us in the end cuz we
3:50:37 lose gosh, we lose four families, that's
3:50:39 going to, you know, equal that amount.
3:50:41 Um, if we lose four students, um, and so
3:50:44 we don't want to, um, spite our nose to
3:50:46 Okay, we appreciate our nose to spite
3:50:48 our face. That's the term. So, I would
3:50:50 be careful about that one. I know cuz
3:50:51 there there's a special certification
3:50:53 for dual language, correct? So, these
3:50:55 teachers have gone above and beyond on
3:50:56 that front. So, let's let's be careful
3:50:58 on that one. Okay. Okay. So, noted.
3:51:00 Thank you, Miss Shaw. Thank you for
3:51:04 mentioning that, Mr. Romero. Um, I would
3:51:06 also agree with you and and Dr. Shaw,
3:51:08 that we should um maybe not um yeah,
3:51:13 remove the stipen since it is permanent
3:51:16 and people have factored that into like
3:51:18 their uh yearly finances.
3:51:22 Okay, we'll we'll review that. Thanks.
3:51:25 Any other questions? Thank you, Mr. F on
3:51:28 this. All right, thank you. Uh item
3:51:30 number 10.1, future meeting dates and
3:51:32 agenda items. Dr. Drew.
3:51:35 Yeah, board members, it's just going to
3:51:37 continue to be a busy spring. Uh coming
3:51:39 up, um first board meeting in May, uh
3:51:42 Havalina Consulting will be here to
3:51:44 present its overview of polling trends
3:51:47 with regard to a potential override. Uh
3:51:49 we'll have a study session on
3:51:50 absenteeism in TUSD as requested by a
3:51:54 couple of our board members. We'll also
3:51:56 have a general overview of the board's
3:51:58 policy for the naming of facilities and
3:52:01 schools. Uh that also uh was a request
3:52:03 from one of our board members. And then
3:52:05 we will have our update on the community
3:52:07 healthc care worker and substance misuse
3:52:09 reduction initiative funded by the
3:52:12 proceeds from the jewel litigation that
3:52:15 will also be on tap for next week. So or
3:52:18 I'm sorry for our first meeting in May.
3:52:20 So we'll be busy.
3:52:22 Yes, Michelle. Uh Dr. Mr. Trujillo, will
3:52:25 there be a study item on the May 13th
3:52:28 agenda in regards to a case load cap for
3:52:31 um some of our related service
3:52:32 providers?
3:52:34 Uh that one is uh coming up for a little
3:52:36 bit later on in May, their second
3:52:39 meeting in May. We are pretty booked on
3:52:41 May 13th already. Uh we also have
3:52:44 another desegregation study session on
3:52:47 MTSS. We have a public hearing set for
3:52:49 budget revision number three. Um, and
3:52:52 then we've got some more appointments to
3:52:54 consider. And you have your second read
3:52:56 for AI usage in the classroom, which I
3:52:59 think is going to be a substantive
3:53:01 discussion. Golly. Um,
3:53:04 okay. May 13th. Are do we have um time
3:53:08 to put like the graduation stuff or can
3:53:11 we handle that outside of the meeting?
3:53:13 We can do I can do that. That's a quick
3:53:16 policy just review. We can add that.
3:53:21 Okay. And I think maybe just outside of
3:53:23 the meeting, we could provide direction
3:53:25 on regards to some of those school sites
3:53:27 that reach out to us. Okay. Thank you.
3:53:30 Anybody else? If not, the meeting stands
3:53:33 adjourned. Thank you.