Governing Board Regular Meeting — April 14, 2026
Meeting Details
- Date: April 14, 2026
- Time: 04:30 PM
- Location: Duffy Community Center, 5145 E. Fifth Street, Tucson, AZ 85711
- Video: YouTube
Meeting Timeline
| Time | Section | Summary |
|---|---|---|
| 45:33 | Superintendent’s Report | |
| 48:34 | Student Performance | |
| 59:59 | Instructional Overhaul Presentation | |
| 1:14:48 | Desegregation Program Update | |
| 1:32:14 | Public Comment | |
| 1:43:37 | Board Member Reports and Discussions |
People and Organizations Mentioned
Persons
- Carter
- Carter Romero
- Davidson
- Dr. Robbie
- Dr. Shaw
- Extramm
- I. I.
- John
- Luna Rose
- Michael Rosar
- Miss Extramm
- Miss Shaw
- Natalie Fry
- Romero
- Ross
- Shaw
- TUSD
- Trill
- Trillo
- Trio
Organizations
- AP
- Bosuyaki tribe
- CTE
- Camila
- Choya
- Club America
- Governing Board
- I.
- TEA
- TUSD
- Toono Odum Nation
- Tucson Unified
- Tucson Unified School District
- USD
- XED
Schools
Locations
Issues
Transcript
0:10 Well,
1:01 Do you have one more question?
1:18 I'll probably
1:24 remove
1:43 Test one, two.
1:50 >> You can put it under
5:12 All right.
5:37 Is it
7:41 Yeah, it was over.
10:07 Looking for a
10:20 Hello.
10:32 Oh, he
12:22 Justical.
12:46 You missed it. You're playing
13:07 probably
13:42 Yeah, that's
14:01 But I knew
14:05 >> Yeah.
14:18 when I was 13.
14:56 Okay.
15:29 Watch.
15:50 Can I
16:04 question.
16:42 Thank you.
17:26 that I wanted to see.
17:58 Yeah.
18:46 This is the
19:05 Let's
19:22 go.
19:25 [laughter]
19:43 Thanks for
20:00 Somebody brought
20:37 I'll stop.
21:07 This is what
21:18 attention
21:48 But I made up for it next time to
22:50 No, he said
22:55 I would have just
23:42 Hello.
23:44 >> Yeah, me there.
26:07 Good.
28:18 That's
34:14 Let's see if they
34:19 Let's
34:47 see.
35:36 probably.
36:15 What you doing?
36:49 Good evening.
37:13 Thank you.
40:26 I am it's
40:29 plugged in.
40:36 Okay.
40:37 >> I mean,
40:38 >> yeah, I'll leave it. I'll leave it
40:39 tonight. My god, when I it just and my
40:43 husband has this terrible habit of
40:47 unplugging laptops.
41:05 Thank you.
41:07 People
41:17 come in.
41:55 Good evening. We're going to get our
41:57 meeting started. So, please take your
41:59 seats.
42:01 If there are any open.
42:10 Good evening. Welcome to the April 14th
42:13 governing board meeting. I am uh will be
42:16 running the meeting until Dr. Shaw
42:18 returns from uh his children's
42:20 performance and line weaver.
42:23 So with that being said, can I get roll
42:25 call, please?
42:30 Uh, Miss Rose, Luna Rose, sorry.
42:33 >> Oh, here.
42:36 >> Uh, Mr.
42:37 >> here.
42:39 >> Miss Shaw
42:40 >> here.
42:41 >> Miss Extramm
42:42 >> here.
42:42 >> Dr. Robbie.
42:45 >> Okay. Well, like I said, Dr. Robbie will
42:47 be joining us in a little [snorts]
42:49 while. And um I am uh let's see
42:55 the land acknowledgement statement. Do
42:58 we have Oh, we do. Okay. Just a moment.
43:01 Let me see before Well, you can come up
43:03 to the mic, but I don't know if I have
43:06 his information. Oh, here we go. Thank
43:09 you. [snorts]
43:12 >> He took it. Oh, it's right here. I
43:14 didn't. Okay.
43:17 >> It's the same one.
43:18 >> Okay.
43:20 >> He's got it. Oh, he's doing both. Okay.
43:22 All right. Well, thank you for that.
43:28 Okay. So, um, this is Carter Romero. He
43:32 is a fifth grader at Warren Elementary.
43:35 He is the student council president and
43:37 has been in the council since the third
43:38 grade. He plays both basketball and
43:41 football, but football is his passion.
43:44 He cheers for the Dallas Cowboys.
43:48 All right. [laughter]
43:50 Carter also plays the ukulele and the
43:52 trumpet for the Warren B. In his free
43:54 time, he is sharpening his skills for
43:56 football and school. Last year, Carter
43:59 only missed one question in the entire
44:01 Arizona's academic standards of
44:03 assessments assessment test.
44:05 Congratulations.
44:07 Good for you, [applause] Carter.
44:12 He has been invited to attend the
44:13 self-contained gate program at Pister
44:16 Middle School, and he will be doing both
44:18 the land acknowledgement statement and
44:19 our pledge of allegiance. So Carter,
44:21 when you're ready.
44:23 >> On behalf of the governing board of the
44:26 Tucson Unified School District, I name I
44:28 Carter Romero acknowledge that the
44:30 schools, buildings, and facilities of
44:33 the Tucson Unified School District
44:35 reside on the ancestral homeland of the
44:38 Toono Odum Nation and the federally
44:42 federally recognized tribal land of the
44:44 Bosuyaki tribe.
44:47 >> Fantastic. Thank you. And now, can we
44:49 stand for the pledge, please?
44:52 And whenever you're ready.
44:54 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
44:56 United States of America and to the
44:58 republic for which it stands, one nation
45:02 under God, indivisible, with liberty and
45:05 justice for all.
45:08 >> Thank you, Carter, and good luck next
45:11 year.
45:13 [applause]
45:18 >> [applause]
45:20 >> Okay, now off to agenda adjustments. Dr.
45:22 Trillo, are there any adjustments?
45:25 >> Um, governing board clerk Luna Rose, no
45:27 agenda adjustments this evening.
45:30 >> Okay, thank you very much. All right,
45:33 now we are on to the superintendent
45:34 report.
45:36 >> Yes. uh governing board members, members
45:39 of the community. Sadly, uh we've been
45:42 having to do this all too often, kicking
45:44 off our meetings with uh news of
45:47 sadness. And uh anytime uh any life is
45:50 lost in our TUSD community, it hurts.
45:53 But when it's a young life full of
45:55 potential that that hasn't yet had the
45:58 uh years of experience to realize that
46:00 potential, it hurts even more. And so
46:02 tonight, uh, we take a moment and we
46:05 honor and remember one of our students,
46:07 uh, 12th grade senior at Choya, uh,
46:09 Camila Salana, whose life was tragically
46:12 cut short in a, uh, traffic accident on
46:15 March 25th. Camila was not only a
46:17 student nearing graduation this spring,
46:19 she was also an active and valued member
46:21 of the Choya Charger community. She
46:23 dedicated herself to mariachi and dance,
46:26 sharing her talent and her discipline
46:28 and her spirit with our other students.
46:31 Through those commitments, she
46:32 contributed to the life and culture of
46:34 her school in ways that will not be
46:36 forgotten. The tragedy hits even harder
46:39 and extends beyond Camila because it was
46:42 her mother who was in the car with her
46:44 and also lost her life. So we also
46:46 remember her mother Nora um in this
46:49 accident and our hearts are with their
46:50 family as they grieve this profound loss
46:54 and our our thoughts, our prayers, our
46:56 best wishes if that's your religious uh
46:59 preference are with the lone surviving
47:01 sister who will have to move forward. Uh
47:04 moments like this remind us that a
47:06 school is more than a place of learning.
47:08 It is a community of relationships,
47:10 memories, and shared experiences.
47:13 Camila's presence will be deeply missed
47:15 by her classmates, by her teachers, and
47:17 by all who have the privilege of knowing
47:19 her. On behalf of the school district,
47:21 we extend our deepest condolences to
47:23 Camila's family, to the Choya High
47:25 School community, to all those who are
47:28 grieving. Let us honor through a moment
47:31 of silence Camila and Nora Salana this
47:33 evening two beautiful members of the
47:35 TUSD community with a moment of silence.
47:48 Thank you.
47:50 [clears throat]
47:53 And now I'm moving into the uh joyous
47:57 part of the superintendence report, the
47:59 I believe debut here, at least in a long
48:02 time of one of my favorites. It's great
48:05 to see Mr. uh Mr. Snook here outside of
48:07 the cafeteria where I usually see him
48:09 performing with his students. Uh we're
48:12 going to get ready to see the Davidson
48:14 Dragon Choir. Uh under the direction of
48:16 Jose Snook, this talented ensemble of
48:19 fourth grade through sixth grade
48:21 students. They bring remarkable energy,
48:23 joy, and pride to every single
48:25 performance. They are a vibrant part of
48:27 the Davidson Elementary community,
48:30 regularly showcasing their talents at
48:32 school assemblies and in their annual
48:34 concerts. Many of these students will go
48:37 on to represent their school in this
48:39 year's Ma Showcase Honor Choir on
48:42 Saturday, May 2nd at Palivvery High
48:44 School, which speaks to their dedication
48:46 and growing artistry. Those of you
48:48 watching in the public, it is well worth
48:51 the price of admission to go to the MA
48:53 showcase. It is literally one of the
48:55 best events in the district. I look
48:57 forward to it every single year. Uh Mr.
49:01 and the students extend their sincere
49:03 appreciation to principal Sarah
49:04 Andraopoulos, the Davidson teachers, and
49:08 the support of TUSD's fine arts
49:10 department for their continued
49:12 leadership and support. Tonight, the
49:15 Davidson Dragon Choir will perform one
49:18 of my favorites. And for some of you who
49:21 are in my I don't want to say age group,
49:23 but in my area of life experience,
49:27 um you will be taken back to childhood
49:30 by their rendition of Won't You Be by
49:33 Neighbor by Mr. Fred Rogers for those of
49:36 us who used to enjoy that show. Uh they
49:38 will also perform Collidioscope by Pink
49:41 Zebra and also Put a Little Love in Your
49:44 Heart with Love Train arranged by Greg
49:47 Gilpin. So, please join me in welcoming
49:51 the Davidson Dragon Choir.
49:56 [applause]
50:14 I like you exactly the way you are.
50:33 It's a beautiful day in the
50:35 neighborhood. A beautiful day for a
50:37 neighbor. Would you be mine? Could you
50:40 be mine?
50:42 It's a neighborly day in [music] this
50:45 wood. A neighborly day for a few. Would
50:48 you be mine? Could you be mine?
50:52 I have always wanted to have a neighbor
50:55 just like you. I've always wanted to
50:58 live in a neighborhood
51:01 with you. [singing and music] So, let's
51:03 make the beautiful day. Since we're
51:07 together, we might as well say, "Would
51:10 you be mine? Would you be mine? Won't
51:13 you be my neighbor?
51:15 >> [music]
51:16 >> Won't you please? Won't you please
51:21 you be [music and singing] my neighbor?
51:28 [applause]
51:35 [applause]
51:38 >> One turn is all we're waiting for. to
51:42 show you all we are [singing] and more.
51:45 [music] Don't look away, you'll miss the
51:48 show. [singing] We're changing what you
51:50 think you know. Always in motion.
51:53 [singing and music] We'll design a
51:56 brighter world that we define with every
52:00 change.
52:02 We'll show you [music and singing] what
52:03 we got. What we got? What we got?
52:07 We're lingoscope.
52:08 We're lacking the [music] scope. and you
52:11 kaleidoscope. Oh wo. And everyone that
52:14 [music] we know is all a part of the
52:16 flow. And now we're ready to go. Oh wo.
52:20 Just take a look and you'll see how
52:22 beautiful we can [singing] be. We're so
52:24 kinetic and free. Yeah, it's [music] you
52:26 and me. We're like a kaleidoscope. We're
52:29 like a kaleidoscope. We're like a
52:31 kaleidoscope. Come on, let's go.
52:33 [screaming] Oh wow.
52:36 Let's go. Oh wow. Oh [music]
52:41 oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
52:43 let's go
52:47 here in the space we are fly
52:51 transforming [singing]
52:52 like a butterfly we're taking on another
52:56 [music]
52:56 form you'll see but don't expect a door
53:01 each one of us will play a part to build
53:05 a larger world a
53:07 far beyond one. [music and singing]
53:11 We are exceptional. Exceptional.
53:16 We're like a kaleidoscope. [music] We're
53:17 like a kaleidoscope.
53:20 Kaleidoscope.
53:21 Oh wo. And everyone that we know [music]
53:24 is all a part of the flow. And now
53:26 [singing] we're ready to go. Oh wo. Just
53:29 take a look and you'll see [music] how
53:31 beautiful we can be. We're so kinetic
53:33 and free. Yeah. That's you and me. We're
53:36 like a kaleidoscope. We're like a
53:38 kaleidoscope. We're like a kaleidoscope.
53:41 Come on, let's go. Oh. [screaming] Wo.
53:45 Let's go. Oh. Woah. Woah. [music]
53:49 Oh wo. [singing]
53:52 Let's go.
53:59 We feel emotion and changes. Our lives
54:03 are going through [singing] stages. We
54:06 want to shape the world that betrays us.
54:10 Each time a scene reanges, [singing]
54:13 we feel [music] emotion and changes. Our
54:17 lives are going through stages. We want
54:20 to shape the world [singing] that
54:21 [music] us
54:27 show you all we are.
54:33 >> We're like a kaleidoscope. We're like a
54:35 kaleidoscope. We're like a kaleidoscope.
54:38 Oh wo. And everyone that we know is all
54:42 a part of the flow. And now
54:43 [music and singing] we're ready to go.
54:45 Oh wo. Just take a look and you'll see
54:48 how beautiful we can be. We're [music]
54:50 so kinetic and free as you and me. We're
54:53 like a kaleidoscope. We're like a
54:55 kaleidoscope. We're like a
54:57 [singing and music] kaleidoscope
54:59 and every
55:01 see us changing another vision. [music]
55:06 Keep on.
55:09 This is a generation new creation.
55:14 Let's go.
55:19 >> [applause]
55:29 >> People all over the world
55:32 join hands.
55:34 Start a [singing] love train. Love
55:36 train. [music] People all over the world
55:40 join hands.
55:42 Start a love train. Love train. People
55:46 all over the world
55:48 join hands.
55:50 Start a love train. Love train. [music]
55:54 People all [singing] over the world
55:57 join hands.
55:59 Start a love train. Love train. Take a
56:03 good look around. And if you're looking
56:06 down, put [singing] a love in your
56:08 heart.
56:11 I hope when you decide kindness will be
56:14 your guide. Put the love in your heart
56:18 and the world
56:19 >> and the world be [music] a better place.
56:22 >> And the world
56:23 >> and the world [singing] will be a better
56:26 place for you.
56:28 >> For you and me and me.
56:30 >> You just wait. You just wait and see.
56:35 [music] People over the world
56:38 join hands.
56:40 Start a love train. Love train. People
56:44 over the world
56:46 join hands.
56:48 Start a love train. Love.
56:52 Another day goes by and still the
56:55 children cry. Put love in your heart.
57:00 If you want the world to know, we won't
57:03 let hatred grow. Put the love in your
57:06 heart. [music and singing]
57:08 And the world
57:09 >> and the world will be a better [singing]
57:11 place.
57:12 >> And the world [music]
57:13 >> and the world will be a better place for
57:17 you.
57:17 >> For you and me and me.
57:20 >> You just wait. [music and singing]
57:21 >> You just wait and see.
57:25 People all over the world
57:28 join hands.
57:30 Start a [music] love train. Love train.
57:33 People all over [singing] the world
57:36 join hands.
57:38 Start a love train. Love train. Put a
57:42 little love in your heart. Put a little
57:45 love. [music] Put a little love in your
57:47 heart.
57:48 >> in your heart. [singing] Put a little
57:51 love in your heart. Put a [music] little
57:54 love. Put a little love in your heart.
57:56 >> In your heart. Put a little love. See
58:01 all of the world. [cheering] In your
58:02 heart. Join hands.
58:05 [music] Start a love.
58:07 [applause] Tra.
58:11 Join hands.
58:13 Start a love.
58:15 Love train. All the world.
58:19 Join hands.
58:21 Start a love. All
58:25 people the world
58:29 put a little love in your heart.
58:34 [cheering]
58:39 [cheering]
58:42 [applause]
59:06 One more round of applause for the Ma
59:08 Dragon Choir from Davidson.
59:11 [applause]
59:15 And of course, all of our amazing
59:16 parents of these young performers that
59:18 came out after work to support their
59:20 kids. Let's hear it for them, too.
59:22 [cheering and applause]
59:33 >> All right. Well, moving forward with the
59:36 superintendence report, it's been a
59:39 very, very busy month. Uh, I had an
59:43 opportunity to visit Innovation Tech. I
59:46 hadn't been out there uh yet this year.
59:48 It's always a wonderful time to visit
59:50 the district's newest high school. had
59:52 an amazing school tour with uh Miss
59:55 Hurley and was very impressed with the
59:57 school's journey to projectbased
59:59 learning, an instructional overhaul that
1:00:02 is instantly created a lot more
1:00:04 excitement amongst the students, a lot
1:00:06 more studentto student interactions. I
1:00:08 also had an opportunity to tour the new
1:00:10 building and to see all of our great CTE
1:00:13 programs there. I do want to thank Miss
1:00:16 Hurley for welcoming me and for the CTE
1:00:18 culinary arts kids for providing the
1:00:21 delicious snacks that I was able to
1:00:23 enjoy during my visit. Uh I also had an
1:00:26 opportunity to head east and to visit
1:00:29 one of one of the most amazing schools
1:00:31 not just in the east side but in all of
1:00:33 TUSD. Had a chance to go to Fruit
1:00:36 Tendler and visit with Mr. Ericson, tour
1:00:39 the campus and of course read to the
1:00:42 students. And over there at Frandendler,
1:00:44 normally I would read to one classroom,
1:00:47 maybe even one grade level, but
1:00:49 Fruendler actually gets the whole school
1:00:51 there. So, uh, it's it's always a
1:00:53 surprise walking in and I see the entire
1:00:55 school. I think Miss Rose, you you've
1:00:57 read over there, Miss Luna Rose, so you
1:00:58 know, it's not just a class. You're
1:01:00 reading to the whole school. So, that
1:01:02 was an absolutely wonderful event. had
1:01:04 an opportunity to meet several of our
1:01:06 amazing staff members, visit classrooms
1:01:09 um and see the wonderful job that our
1:01:12 grounds crew is doing out there. Also
1:01:14 got to see some of the wonderful
1:01:16 additions that protender has received
1:01:18 because of the bond program. I am fresh
1:01:22 off uh the NSBA annual conference. We
1:01:26 had an opportunity to facilitate a uh
1:01:29 presentation with our governing board
1:01:32 leadership team uh president Dr. Shaw uh
1:01:34 board clerk uh Natalie Luna Rose. We
1:01:37 actually did very well for having our
1:01:40 program our presentation was actually
1:01:42 scheduled at the very end of the
1:01:44 conference at the very last session when
1:01:47 people are actually getting ready to
1:01:48 catch flights. And considering all that,
1:01:50 we actually had like a full house. We
1:01:52 actually had like 30 or 40 participants.
1:01:55 We were able to share uh our approach,
1:01:57 our strategies,
1:01:59 um and our planning that led to
1:02:01 successful ballot initiatives, our
1:02:04 victory in the bond in 2023 and our
1:02:07 victory in the override in 2025. It was
1:02:10 great to share that knowledge with so
1:02:11 many districts like TUSD that are
1:02:14 struggling financially and are looking
1:02:16 to extra tax levies like bonds and
1:02:19 override. So, we're very very happy to
1:02:21 share uh some of our learnings, some of
1:02:23 our challenges, and some of our
1:02:25 successes uh with districts from around
1:02:29 the nation. Uh last week, I had an
1:02:31 opportunity to attend the
1:02:32 African-American Student Services
1:02:34 Department recognition event. Um, I want
1:02:38 to thank our governing board members
1:02:40 that attended uh that evening. Blue had
1:02:44 uh we had uh governing board member
1:02:46 Satie Shaw. We had clerk Luna Rose. We
1:02:49 had President Shaw. Uh thanks for having
1:02:52 everybody out. We really appreciate your
1:02:54 support. We met some absolutely amazing
1:02:57 students that night. It was a
1:02:59 celebration of African-American student
1:03:01 excellence across the district. And I
1:03:04 was very very impressed with the Choya
1:03:07 validictorian. What an amazing young
1:03:09 man. I'm sure we're going to be hearing
1:03:10 more about that young person uh going
1:03:13 forward this spring as he continues to
1:03:15 rack up the recognitions.
1:03:18 Um Tucson High. Uh last week I was able
1:03:21 to head out to the school. Uh principal,
1:03:24 newly appointed principal Dr. Norma
1:03:26 Gonzalez uh had a meet and greet at
1:03:28 Tucson High and a full auditorium of
1:03:31 staff members wanting to meet the new
1:03:33 principal, had an opportunity to
1:03:35 introduce her and more importantly, she
1:03:38 had an opportunity to share a little bit
1:03:40 about her background, uh her goals and
1:03:44 what she's hoping to accomplish within
1:03:45 the first 30 to 45 days there on the job
1:03:48 uh out there for Tucson High. So had a
1:03:51 wonderful last wonderful but busy last
1:03:55 30 days. So before we uh move on to some
1:03:59 other parts of the superintendence
1:04:02 um report, I wanted to bring the CTE
1:04:06 team that I think is here this evening
1:04:08 who is going to kick us off uh with this
1:04:12 spring's schedule of celebrating the
1:04:16 effects of the override and how so many
1:04:18 different programs are going to be
1:04:20 enhanced. I think we've spent the last
1:04:22 couple of months talking about budget
1:04:25 cuts. we've got that behind us. It's now
1:04:27 to pivot and start talking about what
1:04:29 the override is bringing into the
1:04:31 district as opposed to what we've had to
1:04:33 cut to balance our deficit. So, we want
1:04:36 to kick it off tonight uh with career
1:04:39 and technical education who as a result
1:04:41 of the override will have a million
1:04:43 dollars uh to invest in their programs.
1:04:46 I'd like to welcome our program
1:04:48 coordinator for career and technical
1:04:50 education in the district, Mr. Chuck
1:04:52 McCullum.
1:04:53 >> All right. Good evening, board members.
1:04:55 Dr. Trill, Councelor Ross. Um, tonight
1:04:58 I'm here to present the override funding
1:05:00 impact and implementation as it relates
1:05:02 to the career and technical education
1:05:05 department. As you know, our program
1:05:08 serves over 6,000 students across 60
1:05:10 plus programs at 11 sites districtwide.
1:05:14 This override will allow us to continue
1:05:18 our commitment to career pathways and
1:05:21 critical need for increased resources.
1:05:24 It'll address key changes and strengthen
1:05:27 our ability to serve our students
1:05:29 effectively. I'm going to be honest with
1:05:31 you. When this override first came to
1:05:33 into, you know, into play, we sat down
1:05:36 and said, how are we going to use this
1:05:39 possible monies to help our kids and
1:05:42 help our teachers? And so I think we put
1:05:44 together a a really good plan that is
1:05:47 going to impact instruction. Okay. So
1:05:50 let's go through the slides here. U the
1:05:53 purpose uh key CTE support roles across
1:05:57 all sites and all programs. The main
1:05:59 scope is to provide 14 instructional
1:06:02 aids across high school CTE programs.
1:06:05 Now we did keep that to industrial
1:06:07 programs and I'll speak about that in a
1:06:09 minute. uh systems integration
1:06:11 specialists which are TS
1:06:14 um
1:06:16 one CTE specialist. You got to
1:06:18 understand that that we have a lot that
1:06:19 goes on within those 60 programs. We
1:06:22 need somebody who's running between each
1:06:24 to meet needs. Um and then project
1:06:27 technical specialists, two of them which
1:06:30 are centrally based supporting career
1:06:32 exploration at middle schools and we'll
1:06:34 talk a little bit about it. We were
1:06:36 budgeted an allocated amount of 1.1
1:06:38 million We have written out and
1:06:42 submitted for 985 basically $986,000
1:06:47 of that money with a difference of about
1:06:49 114,000
1:06:51 because
1:06:53 we're if the if salaries increase or
1:06:57 something of that nature, we got to have
1:06:58 a little money to pick that up. Okay, so
1:07:01 that's the the overall scope of it. Um
1:07:06 the staffing overview will will hire 14
1:07:09 instructional aids to site uh based
1:07:12 support embedded in specific CTE
1:07:14 programs to increase hands-on
1:07:17 supervision, lab safety and day-to-day
1:07:20 instructional capacity. Um we'll also do
1:07:24 the systems integration specialist which
1:07:26 is a regional cluster support model for
1:07:29 technology systems used across all
1:07:31 programs shared service approach. In
1:07:34 other words, we're not hiring one for
1:07:35 every site. We'll have three total and
1:07:38 they will be assigned regions so that
1:07:40 they get to the programs a lot quicker.
1:07:43 And then the two project specialists,
1:07:45 they'll be centrally based, but will
1:07:47 move from middle school to middle school
1:07:49 to help with career exploration, the
1:07:52 delivery, the logistics, and the
1:07:54 technical program operations.
1:07:57 Um, here's where we're going to place.
1:08:00 Catalina, we're going to place in
1:08:02 construction. Choya in the automotive
1:08:04 construction welding. Palverie and the
1:08:07 engineering. Uh Rencon in automotive.
1:08:11 HVAC our new medical assisting program.
1:08:14 Sabino our brand new welding program.
1:08:18 Sorro in the automotive and engineering
1:08:20 positions. Sanorita in the culinary
1:08:22 position. And Tucson High in the
1:08:25 automotive and welding positions. Okay.
1:08:28 Here here's really why we're looking at
1:08:30 that. You got to take into account
1:08:33 liability. Okay, I'm not going to lie to
1:08:35 you. We like everybody to leave with
1:08:37 five fingers. Okay, so when you look at
1:08:40 liability, two sets of eyes in the room
1:08:43 makes it
1:08:45 just relieves worries every day for that
1:08:48 instructor who has 30 kids in a
1:08:50 construction area using saws. Um, it
1:08:54 increases hands-on learning because you
1:08:56 have people roaming the room being able
1:08:59 to help all students. um provides really
1:09:02 good uh student support. And here's the
1:09:05 kicker. It really works with teacher
1:09:08 recruitment because you take an
1:09:10 instructional aid and then you find out
1:09:12 that instructional aid could become a
1:09:13 teacher. So now you can work the PD, the
1:09:17 certification process, and then when we
1:09:19 have an opening, we're not
1:09:22 sitting at a job fair hoping somebody
1:09:24 walks in the door. We have somebody that
1:09:27 we could promote and move. this is uh
1:09:29 we've done this before uh funding wasn't
1:09:33 we're not able to continue it but now we
1:09:35 can so those are those positions I can't
1:09:39 tell you how much the teachers are going
1:09:41 to go crazy over the fact that they'll
1:09:43 have another set of eyes in the room so
1:09:45 this will impact instruction greatly
1:09:49 um the centralbased specialist roles um
1:09:54 we um in CTE
1:09:57 um rely on a lot of specialized devices.
1:10:00 Our technology is way above everybody.
1:10:04 I'm not going to lie, way above
1:10:06 everybody else's when you take into
1:10:07 account the certification, testing, all
1:10:10 the stuff that we do. We need
1:10:12 specialized TS tech folks who can go to
1:10:16 a Choya or go to a PBLO or go to a Sorro
1:10:20 and get things up and running so that
1:10:22 instruction doesn't lack. Right now
1:10:24 we're sitting on one and he's trying to
1:10:26 handle those 6,000 kids in 11 sites. Not
1:10:30 working real well. Now with three, we'll
1:10:33 be able to regionalize it and boy, when
1:10:35 a when a teacher needs help, we can get
1:10:38 people there. Okay, so again, here we
1:10:41 go. Increasing instruction. I can't tell
1:10:44 you how this override has affected us.
1:10:46 It's been a great great addition.
1:10:50 um program technical specialists. This
1:10:54 will be multi-sight coverage. Okay,
1:10:57 we feel the need and it's it's the need
1:11:01 the CTE department felt and I'm going to
1:11:03 say it's a it's a need the curriculum
1:11:05 and instruction department has talked
1:11:07 about uh career exploration at all
1:11:10 middle school sites. Okay. What we're
1:11:13 looking at right now is a program called
1:11:16 Books and Ladders. Books and Ladders is
1:11:18 used by the u uh public school system in
1:11:21 New York, the public school system in
1:11:23 Texas. It was new to Arizona and they
1:11:27 came to us. Okay. One of the few
1:11:30 districts that they wanted to get
1:11:31 involved with. Uh to be honest with you,
1:11:34 we have had a proposal written. It has
1:11:36 been sent to curriculum and instruction,
1:11:38 Dr. Uitt, Miss Ronda, and to five middle
1:11:41 school principles for them to review,
1:11:44 look at. This is not a driveby. Pardon
1:11:47 the expression. This is not a driveby.
1:11:49 This is built into the curriculum that
1:11:52 the teacher is using. So therefore, it
1:11:54 ties career exploration into your sixth
1:11:57 grade English class. They'll see
1:12:01 options. It will also tie in the CTE
1:12:04 programs that are appropriate at our
1:12:07 high schools that fit in. So these are
1:12:10 this is really big. This is something
1:12:12 we're taking on and and we think can
1:12:14 really help our programs. So when you
1:12:17 look at total salary and benefits, the
1:12:19 instructional aids, we're we're uh
1:12:22 anticipating about 560,000 which
1:12:25 includes benefits which includes any
1:12:28 kind of extra monies. uh the system
1:12:31 integration specialists at 255,000,
1:12:35 the one CTE specialist at 55, the two
1:12:38 project technical specialists at 115 for
1:12:41 a total amount of about 870.
1:12:44 Uh there is a little difference there.
1:12:46 The allocated amount was 1.1. So the
1:12:49 difference is 229. Again, we're not sure
1:12:53 if we allocated correctly until the fall
1:12:58 when we come back and look at what
1:13:00 everybody's salaries are. Okay. And then
1:13:02 we'll we you always leave some money in
1:13:05 in contingency. If you don't Yeah,
1:13:07 that's a mistake. So, that is where we
1:13:10 sit with the override. Um, there's been
1:13:13 a I've been in the district for a very
1:13:15 very long time and this is one of the
1:13:18 most exciting things I've seen in a
1:13:20 while, a long while. This is going to
1:13:23 help kids. This is going to help
1:13:25 teachers help kids. So, we're really
1:13:29 excited about You should be excited
1:13:31 yourselves because this is really
1:13:34 something that we need that we're using
1:13:36 and I think the public um will see that
1:13:39 we're using the override money to really
1:13:42 accomplish what we need to accomplish.
1:13:45 So, if you have any questions, I'm done.
1:13:49 >> Thank you, Mr. McCollum. That's some
1:13:51 really great news and thank you for your
1:13:54 presentation. I'm I'm I'm excited and I
1:13:57 am excited and I'm thank the community
1:13:58 again for supporting the override so we
1:14:01 can do these things for our kids. Um
1:14:03 board members, any questions from Mr.
1:14:05 McCullum or comments?
1:14:09 >> No. Okay.
1:14:10 >> Okay. Thank you.
1:14:10 >> Thank you so much, sir.
1:14:14 >> And I've got our director for early
1:14:16 childhood education and our community
1:14:18 schools before and after school
1:14:20 programs, Mrs. Rein Keevit. For those of
1:14:23 you in attendance, it was a little late
1:14:24 at night uh a few weeks ago when uh Mrs.
1:14:28 Kiev secured uh some pretty crucial
1:14:31 governing board action to significantly
1:14:33 expand preschool availability as a
1:14:36 result of the override funds that the
1:14:38 voters have approved for us. So, that's
1:14:40 why I asked Mrs. Ke to come back and
1:14:42 just kind of give a general recap uh
1:14:45 here at the beginning of the meeting
1:14:46 when we have our highest attendance rate
1:14:48 so that we can all uh celebrate and look
1:14:50 forward to this expansion. Mrs. Keith,
1:14:52 >> thank you. Good evening.
1:14:55 I'm here to provide a brief update and
1:14:57 summary of the preschool override plan
1:15:00 that was approved at our last board
1:15:02 meeting and to highlight our plan moving
1:15:04 forward. As a reminder, the board
1:15:07 approved the use of $200,000
1:15:10 for district supplies for each preschool
1:15:13 classroom and $600,000 in override
1:15:17 funding to expand access to prek through
1:15:20 a scholarship model rather than opening
1:15:23 new classrooms. We explored the option
1:15:26 of opening additional classrooms. And
1:15:28 while that approach increases capacity
1:15:31 in a fixed location, it also comes with
1:15:34 significant startup costs, staffing
1:15:36 needs, and long-term financial
1:15:38 commitments.
1:15:40 In addition, override funds cannot be
1:15:43 used for capital expenses such as
1:15:45 furniture, equipment, and other startup
1:15:48 items which would require additional
1:15:51 funding sources.
1:15:54 The scholarship model allows us to
1:15:56 maximize the use of existing classrooms
1:15:59 at our elementary sites and two infant
1:16:01 and early learning centers. And more
1:16:04 importantly, it allows us to remove
1:16:06 financial barriers for families who want
1:16:09 access to fullday prek but cannot afford
1:16:12 tuition.
1:16:14 Through this model, we will provide
1:16:16 tuition support using a sliding fee SC
1:16:20 scale, which prioritizes our highest
1:16:23 need families. Currently, our existing
1:16:26 scholarship supports families up to 300%
1:16:29 of the federal poverty level. This plan
1:16:32 expands that eligibility to about up to
1:16:35 500%,
1:16:37 allowing us to reach more families
1:16:39 across the district. The sliding scale
1:16:42 is designed to be both equitable and
1:16:44 practical. Families with the greatest
1:16:47 need will receive full tuition coverage
1:16:50 while others will contribute a portion
1:16:53 based on their income. This approach
1:16:56 allows us to support more families in a
1:16:59 fair and consistent way.
1:17:02 Another component
1:17:04 of this plan is that it allows us to be
1:17:07 flexible and responsive.
1:17:09 Rather than committing to fixed
1:17:11 classroom classrooms and staffing, we
1:17:14 can adjust the number of scholarships
1:17:15 based on our family needs and available
1:17:19 funding each year. This is especially
1:17:21 important for long-term sustainability
1:17:24 as it allows us to expand access now
1:17:28 without creating positions or programs
1:17:30 that may be difficult to maintain if
1:17:33 funding changes in the future.
1:17:36 As part of this implementation, we will
1:17:38 prioritize new student enrollment to
1:17:40 ensure that we are truly expanding
1:17:42 access across the district. Based on our
1:17:45 current projections, we anticipate
1:17:47 serving approximately 50 to 90 students
1:17:50 depending on the level of need among
1:17:52 participating families.
1:17:55 We are so excited to move forward with
1:17:58 this work, continue, and to continue
1:18:01 expanding
1:18:02 access to high quality early learning
1:18:05 opportunities across Tucson Unified.
1:18:08 Thank you for your continued support,
1:18:11 for your care and commitment to early
1:18:14 childhood education. It truly makes a
1:18:17 difference for our youngest learners and
1:18:19 their families. Thank you.
1:18:22 >> Thank
1:18:26 Thank you board members. Any questions?
1:18:30 >> Okay. Thank you so much.
1:18:31 >> Thank you.
1:18:36 So, we close the superintendent's report
1:18:38 tonight with a discussion of about a
1:18:41 what's going to be a yearlong
1:18:44 uh project for us and an attempt to make
1:18:46 an important shift uh in our
1:18:49 desegregation program, our desegregation
1:18:52 funded programs here in TUSD. that shift
1:18:55 from court directed supervision to
1:18:58 community input with regard to um
1:19:02 desegregation programming here in TUSD.
1:19:06 But a little bit about the desegregation
1:19:08 program or the desegregation funding
1:19:10 that the district has available for it.
1:19:12 for those that haven't been fully uh uh
1:19:16 informed or tend to not be as engaged in
1:19:19 the desegregation conversation. Um
1:19:21 desegregation funded programs have been
1:19:24 in the district since 1976
1:19:27 uh when active court supervision began
1:19:30 uh for the district to eliminate all
1:19:33 vestigages of past segregation
1:19:35 specifically the segregation that was
1:19:38 happening at Dunar. The district has
1:19:41 since received a community levy, which
1:19:44 is an additional property tax that
1:19:46 residents of the district that
1:19:48 homeowners do receive um to be able to
1:19:51 fund compliance with the court order.
1:19:55 And so TUSD has levied $63 million uh
1:19:59 which is the cap that it's able to levy
1:20:02 for these programs. The dollars have to
1:20:05 be used for programs um and goals and
1:20:09 objectives of the former unitary status
1:20:12 plan which was essentially the court
1:20:14 order in written form. The unitary
1:20:17 status plan contained all of the
1:20:19 different conditions, programs and
1:20:21 initiatives that the district was
1:20:23 responsible for implementing uh in
1:20:26 return for fully autonomous status which
1:20:29 is known as unitary status. Well, the
1:20:31 district was released from court
1:20:33 supervision in 2022,
1:20:35 and that decision to release the
1:20:37 district by Judge David C. Bur was
1:20:40 upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of
1:20:43 Appeals uh last year in 2025. So now the
1:20:47 district is fully autonomous and
1:20:50 returned to a state of local governance
1:20:52 by its locally elected school board. But
1:20:55 our $63 million levy is still levied in
1:20:59 support of those wonderful programs that
1:21:02 came into existence as result of the
1:21:05 desegregation dollars. Most notably our
1:21:08 wonderful magnet programs. We have a
1:21:10 wonderful magnet program school here
1:21:12 tonight in Palaverie. We talk a lot
1:21:14 about dual language. We have
1:21:16 awardwinning advanced learning
1:21:18 experience desegregationf funded
1:21:20 programs. We have an award-winning
1:21:22 culturally relevant pedigogy and
1:21:24 instruction lineup and department. So,
1:21:27 we have a lot of amazing desegregation
1:21:29 programming that has come in as a result
1:21:32 of our um of our time during court
1:21:36 supervision. But now that we're out of
1:21:38 court supervision, we have to make a
1:21:40 pivot under the old structures of court
1:21:44 supervision. We had a federal judge
1:21:46 telling us what really we could and
1:21:49 couldn't do. We had a court-appointed
1:21:51 special master on the ground who was
1:21:54 sort of the administrator of the
1:21:57 district's usage of desegregation
1:22:00 dollars. Any proposals, any ideas, any
1:22:03 programmatic enhancements had to go
1:22:05 through the special master and then also
1:22:07 had to be approved by the federal judge.
1:22:10 There were structures where the special
1:22:13 master, the court-appointed
1:22:14 administrator, would have to work
1:22:16 diligently with the pliff
1:22:17 representatives to make sure that all
1:22:19 proposals were shared to all parties
1:22:22 before then ultimately being presented
1:22:24 to the federal judge presiding over the
1:22:26 case. Now, with those structures gone
1:22:29 and the district returned to a state of
1:22:31 local governance, we're now in an era of
1:22:34 pivoting away from court-directed
1:22:36 supervision to now an area of community
1:22:39 engagement and community input. And so,
1:22:42 that's what our goal is. So, we want to
1:22:45 make sure that we are hearing from our
1:22:48 community um and that we're hearing from
1:22:50 a very very diverse selection of our
1:22:53 community, very very diverse um portions
1:22:56 of our community that are representative
1:22:58 of the district, the students and the
1:23:01 families that we served. The community,
1:23:03 it's a community levy, so it does
1:23:05 warrant community input. If we're
1:23:07 levying the dollars from our taxpaying
1:23:10 homeowners and residents of the
1:23:11 district, we want to make sure that
1:23:14 those residents have an opportunity to
1:23:16 weigh in. And then also the education
1:23:18 landscape has changed, right? Since the
1:23:20 district has been in court supervision
1:23:23 since 1976
1:23:25 and then even the more recent iteration
1:23:27 of court supervision which began in
1:23:29 2013. So, our goal is to take a look at
1:23:33 our programs, assemble a community
1:23:36 advisory committee, and to really
1:23:38 introduce an advisory committee
1:23:41 comprised of community members that are
1:23:44 representative of the different segments
1:23:47 of TUSD's overall student population.
1:23:51 And our number one goal, we have a
1:23:53 couple, is we want a fresh perspective.
1:23:56 um because the court ordered supervision
1:23:59 days really gave um the predominant
1:24:04 voices the largest stage right so I was
1:24:06 one of those voices right as the dis
1:24:08 leading the district as the defendant I
1:24:12 don't want to be on this committee it's
1:24:14 not my my time is over right my time
1:24:16 saying things to the court my time
1:24:19 working with our attorneys that time is
1:24:21 over so this committee is not for me
1:24:24 it's now for the community so as we look
1:24:26 for community interest. If you're
1:24:29 sitting there thinking, I don't know
1:24:30 anything about the desegregation order.
1:24:33 I don't what is it? You're like the
1:24:35 perfect candidate. All right? Because we
1:24:36 want to teach people about the history.
1:24:39 We want to teach people about the
1:24:40 programs. And the other goal of the
1:24:42 committee is to review data um assessing
1:24:46 the effectiveness of our existing
1:24:48 programs. So looking at all the amazing
1:24:50 student outcomes that we have from dual
1:24:52 language for example and then some of
1:24:54 the great student outcomes that we've
1:24:56 got for students that are enrolled in
1:24:58 magnet programs versus those that
1:25:00 aren't. So really like looking at at the
1:25:02 data for our different programs to
1:25:05 ultimately help me gather community
1:25:07 input about what are the programs that
1:25:10 we need to strengthen and expand. I know
1:25:12 we've already kind of had one
1:25:13 conversation publicly about dual
1:25:15 language, right? This is an opportunity
1:25:18 to gather a community advisory committee
1:25:20 to do just that. What are those programs
1:25:23 that are really doing well, producing
1:25:25 amazing student outcomes, and then also
1:25:27 bringing students into the district?
1:25:29 Let's take a look at how we expand those
1:25:32 programs. Another thing that the
1:25:34 committee will will do is identify best
1:25:37 practices, work with uh our team to
1:25:40 really take a look at what schools
1:25:41 around the nation are doing. number one
1:25:44 to integrate. Look at some award-winning
1:25:46 uh magnet programs in other districts.
1:25:48 What are some strategies that they're
1:25:50 employing? Some resources that they're
1:25:52 deploying to strengthen their magnet
1:25:54 programs. Can we do that here? Uh it's
1:25:56 also to look at best practices for
1:25:58 student achievement. What are other
1:26:00 districts around the nation doing to
1:26:03 lessen or eliminate achievement gaps,
1:26:05 especially for students of color in
1:26:08 English language arts and math? What can
1:26:10 we learn from them? and are there any
1:26:12 programs that we can fund uh that are
1:26:15 eligible to be funded out of uh
1:26:17 desegregation. So though nothing is
1:26:20 going to change this year, we're not
1:26:22 changing any desegregation programming
1:26:25 uh for 2627,
1:26:27 we want to get started on this work
1:26:29 because I want to help gather some
1:26:30 potential thoughts, ideas, suggestions,
1:26:32 and recommendations that I can bring to
1:26:35 the school board in anticipation of
1:26:37 2728.
1:26:39 So, I'm making a call now for any
1:26:42 community member. Um, if you're
1:26:44 interested following this meeting, we
1:26:47 are going to be advertising on our
1:26:49 district main page. You can just click
1:26:52 the link, sign up. Uh, we're going to be
1:26:54 compiling a list of interested community
1:26:56 members. Uh, we do want to keep the
1:26:58 committee a manageable size. So, I'm
1:27:00 going to we're going to try to take
1:27:01 everybody we can. And of course, we want
1:27:03 to be fully inclusive, right, of the
1:27:05 demographics that TUSD serves. Not just
1:27:08 ethnic demographics, but academic. We
1:27:11 want to make sure that we're inclusive.
1:27:13 Uh, for example, exceptional education
1:27:15 parents and those also that have
1:27:17 students in gate programs. I think
1:27:19 that's very, very important. Uh, we also
1:27:22 want to prioritize parents, right? So,
1:27:24 we're happy to to see community members
1:27:26 sign up, but I'm going to give you the
1:27:28 answer to the test. We're really going
1:27:30 to be looking at parents, right? you are
1:27:32 our number one partner. You are our
1:27:34 number one um customer, if you will. We
1:27:37 want to make sure that we're including
1:27:39 you. Uh it's not to say that we won't
1:27:41 have some other community members, but
1:27:43 we really want to see parents involved.
1:27:45 We want fresh perspectives and we want
1:27:47 new voices, right? Um I'm the first to
1:27:50 raise my hand that I've been saying the
1:27:52 same things about desegregation
1:27:54 programming for 10 years. Like the
1:27:57 school board doesn't need to hear from
1:27:58 me anymore, right? We we've been down
1:28:00 that road. you've got all the court
1:28:02 filings. I'm in them. So, I've had my
1:28:04 time. Like, my time is over. It's now
1:28:07 your time as the community uh to weigh
1:28:09 in. So, we want a fresh perspective. And
1:28:11 [snorts] then we also want to make sure
1:28:13 that the work of this community advisory
1:28:15 committee is extremely public, right? We
1:28:18 want it doing its work publicly. We want
1:28:20 it having uh public report outs. We want
1:28:23 the committee itself facilitating
1:28:25 committee listening sessions where
1:28:27 people who perhaps aren't on the
1:28:29 committee can come in and share their
1:28:31 thoughts and opinions about
1:28:33 desegregation programming um for the
1:28:36 future. Ultimately my goal is to gather
1:28:39 community input to be in a position
1:28:42 about a year from now uh to share ideas,
1:28:45 suggestions and recommendations to the
1:28:47 school board potentially for the 2728
1:28:50 school year. So with that uh governing
1:28:52 board I will leave it open to your
1:28:55 questions, suggestions or any thoughts.
1:28:58 >> Thank you
1:29:00 >> governing board members questions for
1:29:01 Dr. Trill. Miss Shaw.
1:29:06 >> Um thank you for your presentation. Um
1:29:10 and so Dr. Trujill, would this be a
1:29:12 superintendent committee then?
1:29:16 >> This would be a
1:29:17 >> superintendent committee. Yes.
1:29:19 >> Okay. Um
1:29:22 yeah, I mean you mentioned that you want
1:29:24 to take uh a back seat with um guiding
1:29:29 the use of desegregation funds. Um
1:29:32 though with the superintendence
1:29:34 committee, I don't see how that would uh
1:29:37 be possible. In the past, I have uh
1:29:40 tried to form a desegregation advisory
1:29:43 committee that um is a board committee
1:29:45 and subject to open meeting law. And I
1:29:49 think that would be my preference moving
1:29:52 forward. I do see a need for a committee
1:29:54 like this, but I think um so that we can
1:29:58 ensure that um the work being done is
1:30:03 nonbiased. I I would prefer that to be a
1:30:06 board committee subject to open meeting
1:30:08 law.
1:30:10 >> I will add that there will be a
1:30:12 professional facilitator. I will not be
1:30:14 facilitating any of these working
1:30:16 sessions at all.
1:30:19 >> Michelle,
1:30:20 >> and if I um can ask one more question.
1:30:22 Uh who gets to decide who gets on the
1:30:26 committee? Then
1:30:27 >> if it's the board, then you're you're
1:30:28 now in legal territory where it's a vote
1:30:31 by the board because it's a
1:30:32 boardappointed committee. If it's a
1:30:34 superintendent committee, I I'm throwing
1:30:36 it open and I will select among
1:30:39 interested members that sign up.
1:30:41 >> Okay. Yeah. cuz I, you know, I would
1:30:44 love to have new people um on that
1:30:47 committee, whether it's a superintendent
1:30:49 committee or my preference as a board
1:30:51 committee, but um I do want to have
1:30:55 seats available for our um
1:30:58 representatives of um our longtime
1:31:02 representatives of the desegregation
1:31:05 plaintiffs.
1:31:10 >> Board members, any other questions?
1:31:13 Okay,
1:31:14 >> thank you very much. Thank you, Dr. F.
1:31:17 >> And now that President Shaw is back, uh
1:31:20 I would propose one agenda adjustment if
1:31:24 we can move the Palivver folks. I see a
1:31:26 lot of staff members uh coming off of a
1:31:29 long school day and they're up at it
1:31:31 early in the morning. So I'd like to get
1:31:33 them up before uh uh before we do the
1:31:38 consent immediately following the call
1:31:39 to the audience
1:31:41 >> board members any I'll still good are we
1:31:44 good to that okay we will move that so
1:31:48 now um Dr. Sha, you got to miss all the
1:31:51 So, now we are to call to the audience.
1:31:55 >> All right. Thank you, Luna, Miss Luna
1:31:57 Rose, for covering. Uh, my twins had
1:31:59 their second grade performance tonight.
1:32:01 So, uh, got to see the gingerbread
1:32:03 cowboy for a little bit there. So,
1:32:05 apologize for my absence this first part
1:32:07 of the meeting, but we'll go to call the
1:32:08 audience and back to you, Miss Lenarose.
1:32:09 >> Thank you. Okay.
1:32:12 Members of the public may speak during
1:32:14 call to the audience. The governing
1:32:15 board clerk shall be responsible for
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1:32:19 order where it may be appropriate. Those
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1:32:36 addressing the board. Speakers are
1:32:38 encouraged to be brief with a maximum
1:32:39 time of three minutes. While more than
1:32:41 one speaker may speak together in the
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1:32:45 are reminded that they are not allowed
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1:32:49 transfer or delegate their time to
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1:32:55 office staff and they will ensure each
1:32:56 of us receives a copy. Those attending
1:32:59 the meeting or speaking before the board
1:33:01 shall observe rules of good conduct.
1:33:03 Speaker shel refrain from inappropriate
1:33:05 or slanderous remarks. And because TUSD
1:33:08 serves students from preschool through
1:33:10 to high school, you should be aware that
1:33:12 there may be children present and
1:33:14 listening. At the end of the call of the
1:33:16 audience, the governing board president
1:33:17 will ask if any board member wishes to
1:33:19 respond to a criticism, wish to ask
1:33:21 staff to review a matter, or wish to ask
1:33:23 that a matter be put on a future agenda.
1:33:25 No more than two board members may
1:33:27 address each topic.
1:33:29 And our first speaker this evening is uh
1:33:34 Samuel Kovari Stigville. TUSD student.
1:33:39 [applause]
1:33:49 Um, good evening members of the
1:33:51 governing board. Um, I'm here to express
1:33:54 my thoughts and opinions about the
1:33:56 potential adoption of a 4-day school um,
1:33:59 through an essay I wrote for my AP
1:34:01 composition um, class.
1:34:14 So my thesis is even though some may say
1:34:16 that high schools should move to a 4-day
1:34:18 school week because it improves morale
1:34:19 and student attendance, high schoolers
1:34:21 should stick with the traditional 5day
1:34:23 school week because long school days and
1:34:25 additional time away from school
1:34:26 disrupts the process of education.
1:34:29 To begin, many believe that high schools
1:34:31 should adopt a 4-day school week because
1:34:32 it improves student morale and
1:34:33 attendance. Some may ask how. To answer
1:34:36 this question, we have to understand the
1:34:37 significance of a 4-day school week in
1:34:39 comparison to a traditional 5-day school
1:34:41 week. 4-day school weeks differ from
1:34:43 5day school weeks in the sense that
1:34:44 students are in a class for longer to
1:34:46 make up for the time spent in class on
1:34:47 the day that would be missed. This would
1:34:49 mean that the school days are extended,
1:34:51 so students are insured enough
1:34:52 instructional time in class.
1:34:54 Additionally, 4day school weeks are
1:34:56 different because it gives students and
1:34:57 teachers longer weekend. This means more
1:34:59 time to spend with family, more time to
1:35:00 spend or do homework, more time to relax
1:35:02 or recover from stress of school, more
1:35:04 time for internships and career
1:35:05 exploration, and more times for personal
1:35:07 care. However, through a 4-day school
1:35:09 week, though a 4-day school week sounds
1:35:12 amazing and almost too good to be true,
1:35:13 it has detrimental flaws. Adopting a
1:35:15 4-day school week would mean that we are
1:35:17 at school until 4:00 in the afternoon.
1:35:19 Already, I attend a school that goes
1:35:21 until 3:00 in the afternoon, and from my
1:35:23 experience, students do not want to be
1:35:24 there any longer. By the end of the day,
1:35:26 students are exhausted and want to go
1:35:28 home.
1:35:31 By fifth period, I can feel my eyes
1:35:33 getting heavy and back straining. And I
1:35:35 also yearn for the soft touch of my bed.
1:35:38 Many students who feel tired at the end
1:35:40 of the day have trouble performing their
1:35:42 best. When students are exhausted before
1:35:43 the school day ends, they overexert
1:35:45 themselves, which leads to long-term
1:35:46 burnout. If students are constantly
1:35:48 required to work their tired minds,
1:35:49 their academic performance and
1:35:50 achievement are going to be lowered.
1:35:52 Although with the extra day off,
1:35:53 students are allotted more time for
1:35:55 activities outside of school. For
1:35:56 example, they can finish homework. They
1:35:58 can spend more time to do internships or
1:36:00 job shadows, and they can also spend
1:36:03 more time with family and friends. All
1:36:05 these are certainly true, but only if
1:36:06 the school students would show that they
1:36:08 would use this free time as intended. In
1:36:10 reality, our school's majority of
1:36:11 students are not high achievers, not
1:36:13 proactive go-getters, and not mentally
1:36:14 inclined to challenge themselves for
1:36:16 improvement, and most certainly not the
1:36:17 type of people to do school outside of
1:36:19 school. For example, in my freshman year
1:36:21 of high school, we had an optional
1:36:23 conference period in the morning.
1:36:24 However, the next next year, conference
1:36:26 period was moved to the afternoon
1:36:28 because too many students were at school
1:36:30 or in the nearby shopping plaza, but
1:36:32 they were not in the but they were not
1:36:33 in conference period even though they
1:36:35 weren't passing their classes.
1:36:38 They were given opportunities by their
1:36:40 schools to better themselves, but did
1:36:41 not take them because they they are not
1:36:43 the type of people who care about who
1:36:44 care about success or value their
1:36:46 futures.
1:36:47 Thank you.
1:36:51 >> [applause]
1:36:53 >> Next is Judy Morel.
1:37:06 Good evening, Superintendent Trujillo,
1:37:08 Board President Shaw, and members of the
1:37:11 board. My name is Judy Merillion. I've
1:37:14 been here many times. I am a former TUSD
1:37:17 school librarian and literacy coach and
1:37:20 retired librarian educator. I'm here
1:37:22 tonight to find out about the override
1:37:25 budget decisions regarding opening and
1:37:28 posting state certified school librarian
1:37:31 positions.
1:37:32 Likely like everyone in this room,
1:37:35 thanks to the success of the override,
1:37:38 we are elated by the ability of the
1:37:40 district to increase compensation for
1:37:43 employees. As noted in the
1:37:45 superintendence report, the district is
1:37:47 keeping its override funding commitment
1:37:50 to career and technical education and
1:37:53 implementing and expanding access to
1:37:56 muchneeded prek education.
1:38:00 At the December 2025 governing board
1:38:03 meeting, the B board confirmed that
1:38:06 restoring professional school librarians
1:38:08 positions was promised in the override
1:38:11 literature.
1:38:13 My question tonight is this. How and
1:38:15 when will the district move forward with
1:38:18 this promise?
1:38:20 Access to vibrant school library
1:38:22 resources programs and the expertise of
1:38:25 librarians districtwide is an equity
1:38:28 issue. Professional school librarians
1:38:31 with teacher certification and
1:38:32 additional graduate level coursework in
1:38:35 library science are trained to teach and
1:38:37 co-e with classroom teachers to improve
1:38:41 students literacy skills, reading,
1:38:42 writing, and thinking
1:38:45 using print and digital tools. In this
1:38:48 age of distraction and misinformation,
1:38:51 certified librarians help motivate
1:38:53 students to practice deep reading and
1:38:56 guide students to reliable information.
1:38:59 The leadership of school librarians
1:39:01 positively impact student achievement
1:39:04 throughout a school community.
1:39:06 With fewer librarians in 2026 than there
1:39:10 were in 2025,
1:39:12 TUSD can and must do better for its
1:39:15 deserving students and classroom
1:39:17 teachers. So, will this voterapproved
1:39:21 funds be used to res So, will these
1:39:25 voter approved funds be used to restore
1:39:28 literacy learning through school
1:39:30 libraries or not? Please answer this
1:39:33 question tonight. Thank you.
1:39:37 >> [applause]
1:39:40 >> Next is Natalie Fry.
1:39:52 You can put
1:40:03 Hello members of the board. Dr. Trillo
1:40:05 and all here in person and online today.
1:40:09 My name is Natalie Fry. I am a speech
1:40:11 language pathologist at Meyers Ganung
1:40:13 Elementary School who has had the
1:40:15 privilege of working with a robust team
1:40:17 of Xed colleagues all of whom are doing
1:40:19 so much more than their job descriptions
1:40:21 and contracts outlined to support our
1:40:24 students with Xed needs. Today I want to
1:40:27 shine the spotlight on
1:40:28 paraprofessionals.
1:40:30 As you will hear today,
1:40:32 paraprofessionals serve a wide range of
1:40:34 responsibilities in our district.
1:40:36 Between feeding and toileting, they come
1:40:38 into contact with every bodily fluid you
1:40:41 can imagine. They work with students on
1:40:43 lessons and schoolwork as often as they
1:40:45 are able, but are often called away to
1:40:48 manage crises.
1:40:50 They do everything they can to support
1:40:52 student safety during disruptive and
1:40:54 destructive behaviors, which often means
1:40:57 putting their own body in harm's way and
1:40:59 must constantly combat their own sensory
1:41:01 dysregulation and overwhelm to stay
1:41:04 present with students.
1:41:06 Imagine being an aid, teacher, or
1:41:09 student trying to work on classwork when
1:41:11 you have one student screaming at the
1:41:14 top of their lungs, two students crying,
1:41:17 two students hitting each other, two
1:41:19 students chasing each other around the
1:41:21 room, one student banging on the table,
1:41:23 and one student climbing into the sink.
1:41:26 Most days, this is no exaggeration.
1:41:29 And if you do the math, that's only nine
1:41:32 students. TUSD caps self-contained
1:41:35 classrooms at 12 with just one teacher
1:41:38 and two classroom aids.
1:41:41 Imagine you are a paraprofessional in
1:41:42 the setting I just described.
1:41:45 What would you address first?
1:41:48 How do you recover after a day like
1:41:50 that? How do you find it in yourself to
1:41:54 come back?
1:41:56 This year, my colleagues and I have
1:41:58 begun to build a campaign to improve
1:42:00 conditions for all of EXED. Resource
1:42:03 teachers, self-contained teachers,
1:42:05 related service providers, and
1:42:07 paraprofessionals met in person in
1:42:09 February to discuss our needs and
1:42:11 develop our demands through a democratic
1:42:13 process. Together, we determined the
1:42:15 following asks. Create a fair step
1:42:18 schedule that incentivizes experience
1:42:20 for pair professionals. Establish case
1:42:22 load caps for groups that don't have
1:42:24 them encoded in the TEA consensus and
1:42:26 reduce caps for self-contained
1:42:28 classrooms to at least a one to three
1:42:30 adultto student ratio. Reinstate
1:42:33 students that services that have been
1:42:34 significantly reduced or removed
1:42:36 altogether such as orientation and
1:42:38 mobility and adaptive PE. We
1:42:40 additionally demand respect from our XED
1:42:43 leadership. For years, many have spoken
1:42:45 out about mistreatment from Jess Nolan,
1:42:47 the Xed program coordinator without
1:42:49 change. We need leaders who are
1:42:51 respectful and collaborative.
1:42:53 Please heed our invitations to spend a
1:42:55 day in a pair of professionals shoes
1:42:56 before the end of April so that you can
1:42:59 see the realities and demands of the
1:43:01 job, the environments and supports that
1:43:02 are in place as well as the needs. Come
1:43:05 get to know our pair of professionals.
1:43:06 [music]
1:43:07 Thank you.
1:43:09 >> Thank [cheering] you.
1:43:12 Next is Michael Rosar.
1:43:17 [applause]
1:43:19 >> Michael Rosar.
1:43:28 >> Hi, thank you for everybody's time. I
1:43:30 appreciate you all being here. My name
1:43:33 is Michael Rosar. I'm an exceptional
1:43:35 education professional, par
1:43:37 profofessional at Tucson High Magnet
1:43:38 School. 15 years ago, I started as a
1:43:41 part-time monitor at Grihalva Elementary
1:43:43 for 735 an hour. It was a 4-hour shift.
1:43:47 I was lucky enough to live two blocks
1:43:49 away from the school, so I could come
1:43:51 for an hour in the morning, two hours at
1:43:52 lunch, and an hour at night in the
1:43:54 afternoon when school left. I instantly
1:43:57 fell in love working with students and
1:43:59 excelled at dealing with some of the
1:44:00 more challenging students we had at the
1:44:02 school. After two and a half years, a
1:44:04 good friend and co-orker suggested I
1:44:06 apply for an exed position at Maxwell. I
1:44:09 got the job with no training. Began to
1:44:12 work in a CCI class for 1111 an hour. I
1:44:16 loved it. Again, I developed a
1:44:18 particular set of skills working with
1:44:20 some very unique children. Very unique
1:44:23 situations. For the last nine and a half
1:44:26 years now, I've been at the hallowed
1:44:27 halls of Tucson High Magnet School. Go
1:44:31 Badgers. And all those TUSD's crown
1:44:35 jewel. In all those years, I've
1:44:36 advocated for and mentored dozens of
1:44:39 students. I've been dealing with and
1:44:41 educating the most challenging students
1:44:44 that have come through our program. I've
1:44:46 had my ribs crept, cracked. I've been
1:44:49 punched, kicked, scratched, dodged
1:44:51 various uh classroom items, launched at
1:44:54 full velocity, including chairs and
1:44:57 desks and anything else they can get
1:44:59 their hands on. I've assumed the role of
1:45:02 uh security guard, counselor, coach,
1:45:05 good guy, bad guy, and friend.
1:45:07 Currently, I make $20.31 cents an hour.
1:45:11 That's with 15 years experience in the
1:45:13 district, 12 and a half with XED. The
1:45:16 current EXE par crew at Tucson High
1:45:18 Magnet School, some of them are here to
1:45:20 support me tonight, are some of the best
1:45:23 dedicated people I've ever worked with.
1:45:26 Sadly, many are leaving at the end of
1:45:28 the year because they can't make a
1:45:29 living at this job. I'm here to support
1:45:32 all my fellow employees and union
1:45:34 members to get a fair and equitable
1:45:36 wage. Please accept our invitations
1:45:38 tonight to shadow and exit parapro and
1:45:41 see what we put in with put up with day
1:45:43 in and day out. Again, thank you for
1:45:45 your time. [cheering]
1:45:49 [applause]
1:45:53 >> Next is Teresa Guerrero.
1:46:02 Good evening board members.
1:46:03 [clears throat] My name is Teresa
1:46:04 Guerrero. I'm a parapro with the XED
1:46:07 department at Van Busker. I have 24
1:46:10 years of experience in the field. Um,
1:46:13 I'd like to address that the needs of an
1:46:16 XED preschool classroom is most
1:46:18 definitely not met by our hourly play.
1:46:21 How can we keep both new and experienced
1:46:23 employees to the position to be
1:46:25 motivated enough with students to stay
1:46:28 and return without hiring our paygrade?
1:46:32 The 15-minute break is not an option in
1:46:34 our classroom. In our morning session,
1:46:36 we have 15 students, five of which hold
1:46:39 an IEP, two who are visually impaired.
1:46:43 In the afternoon, we have 13 students,
1:46:46 again, five who hold an IEP. It's a
1:46:49 constant battle with safety. Um, I feel
1:46:53 like I am worth more and I'd like you to
1:46:56 spend a day with the parah so you can
1:46:59 have a more understanding of why this is
1:47:01 so important for our success and the
1:47:03 students success. Please consider
1:47:05 spending a day with the parah. Thank you
1:47:07 for your consideration to this matter.
1:47:10 [cheering]
1:47:11 [applause]
1:47:15 Next is Susan Marott.
1:47:28 Good evening. Um, I am also a parah and
1:47:30 currently working at Alice Vale Middle
1:47:32 School. And my question is why are we
1:47:36 hiring outside contractors from agencies
1:47:39 and paying them5 to$10 more than current
1:47:42 employees which like myself working nine
1:47:45 plus years making less than an in-n-out
1:47:48 employee.
1:47:51 [applause]
1:47:56 [applause]
1:47:56 Next is Dolores Divera.
1:48:07 I'm Dolores Divera and I am on the
1:48:10 subnegotiating committee with Dan
1:48:11 Ireland. Um, so hello. It's good to know
1:48:16 that passage of the override means that
1:48:18 we are going to get some pay boost. You
1:48:20 might have noticed in your packet though
1:48:22 that there's no salary schedule for us
1:48:24 in your documents today. That is because
1:48:27 before we take things for our subs to
1:48:30 vote on, it really just makes sense to
1:48:32 be able to present them with a whole
1:48:34 whole financial package. There are a
1:48:36 couple other financial items that we
1:48:38 want to get tweaked. Um the rates that
1:48:40 we're going to the rate increases we're
1:48:42 going to get for the override are really
1:48:44 pretty good in my opinion, except we do
1:48:46 think that the long-term sub rate needs
1:48:48 to go up a little bit more. So we will
1:48:51 be continuing to discuss that in
1:48:52 negotiations.
1:48:55 And I also want you to remember that we
1:48:57 have not had a raise to our rates in
1:49:00 most of our schools since 2021.
1:49:03 Meanwhile, the minimum wage has gone up
1:49:05 more than $3 an hour. Other employees in
1:49:10 this district generally get annual
1:49:11 raises. Uh maybe not last year, but they
1:49:14 generally get annual raises and you've
1:49:16 even given some mid-year raises that we
1:49:19 were left out of. Um, in negotiations,
1:49:22 we want to try to address some common
1:49:24 sense proposals. For instance, sometimes
1:49:27 our long-term subs get paid for taking
1:49:29 on six fifths. Sometimes they don't.
1:49:32 Sometimes a sub who is there all year
1:49:35 has gotten some kind of bonus like I
1:49:37 think it was 301 money or something
1:49:39 mimicking 301 money. Some uh last year
1:49:42 they were told that wasn't available to
1:49:44 them. Um, sometimes we've been paid for
1:49:47 Wednesday PDS. most of the time we're
1:49:50 not. All of those things need to be
1:49:52 addressed in the contracts. Um, and we
1:49:55 have other proposals that might be a
1:49:57 little bit more complicated.
1:49:59 I would be glad if any one of you wanted
1:50:01 to come watch one of our negotiating
1:50:03 sessions at the next one, whatever it
1:50:06 is, I don't know. I would like to review
1:50:09 a little of the history uh of our raises
1:50:13 and lack of raises with the
1:50:15 administrative negotiators because my
1:50:17 guess is they aren't really familiar
1:50:20 with it and you might have heard some
1:50:22 things that seem like hearsay. I would
1:50:24 love if you would come see my
1:50:25 presentation. We still have a lot to
1:50:27 talk about, but it is great to know that
1:50:29 we've got some guaranteed raises from
1:50:31 the override. Thank you very much to the
1:50:33 voters and the taxpayers for that.
1:50:35 Thanks.
1:50:38 [applause]
1:50:39 Next is Jerry Schustster.
1:50:45 [clears throat]
1:50:50 Good evening, board president, Dr. Ravi
1:50:52 Sha, members of the governing board, Dr.
1:50:54 Trillo, Councelor Ross, and staff. Once
1:50:56 again, I thank you for this opportunity
1:50:58 to speak before you. My name is Jerry
1:51:00 Schuster. I'm a substitute teacher with
1:51:02 TUSD. Tonight I want to speak in
1:51:05 reference to agenda item 8.1 the uh the
1:51:08 proposed 4-day week and yes it certainly
1:51:12 will uh present challenges as a previous
1:51:15 speaker had pointed out but I'd like to
1:51:17 point out that would also present
1:51:18 opportunities for example with one extra
1:51:20 available day it could give an
1:51:23 opportunity for for instance for our
1:51:25 middle school students to be immersed in
1:51:27 a high school environment they could
1:51:28 spend that one day when high school's at
1:51:30 a session in in high school now yes
1:51:33 They're already getting in in many cases
1:51:35 high school credit, but this could be an
1:51:37 opportunity for them to actually be in a
1:51:39 high school environment and they could
1:51:41 do similar things with our high school
1:51:42 students on that day off. They could
1:51:44 have an opportunity to spend time in a
1:51:47 college environment as well, whether it
1:51:48 be the UOVA or Puma and it could also
1:51:51 expand opportunities for further
1:51:53 immersion in a CTE JTED environment
1:51:56 which was uh discussed at length um with
1:51:58 all these wonderful things happening
1:52:00 earlier. So um so I would look on it as
1:52:04 uh as opportunity
1:52:06 and uh we also have to consider the
1:52:09 challenges that we're facing with the
1:52:11 retention recruiting students as was
1:52:13 pointed out at previous board meetings.
1:52:15 The most challenging school level for
1:52:17 that in is middle school. Well, I I
1:52:20 would like to state that uh I'm sure
1:52:22 there are some parents that if they see
1:52:24 the middle school students having an
1:52:26 opportunity to be immersed in a high
1:52:28 school environment, I could see that as
1:52:30 as a as an attraction. So, that could go
1:52:34 a long way in uh in recruiting and and
1:52:36 retaining our our students. And when
1:52:39 they see that the process could continue
1:52:40 in high school, that in high school they
1:52:43 would actually have an opportunity to be
1:52:44 immersed in a genuine university or CTE
1:52:48 environment that would make us that much
1:52:50 more competitive. So it so that's the
1:52:53 way I would look at it as increased
1:52:55 opportunity and uh along the lines of
1:52:58 what Dr. Trill was talking about, this
1:53:00 would certainly involve more community
1:53:02 input. So I I for one would like to see
1:53:05 workshops, town hall meetings,
1:53:07 superintendence forms, and yes, Dr.
1:53:09 Trio, that would add to your already
1:53:11 enormous workload. But I think when you
1:53:13 look at it as an opportunity and um
1:53:18 and a way of retaining students, so much
1:53:20 the better. So that concludes what I
1:53:23 would like to say about that. But just
1:53:24 more one more quick thing on a different
1:53:26 topic, what's being discussed by many
1:53:29 people here as a sub. Every once in a
1:53:31 while I'll I'll sub for exas so I see
1:53:35 firsthand what's what's talked what what
1:53:37 they're talking about and I've
1:53:38 experienced that as well. Once again,
1:53:40 thank you very much and best wishes.
1:53:43 [applause]
1:53:45 Thank you. Next speaker is Natalie Mast.
1:54:02 Good evening everyone. I'm Natalie, a
1:54:04 current parent and exed employee and I
1:54:06 have three three quick points tonight.
1:54:08 First, to follow up on my statements at
1:54:10 the last meeting where I spoke about
1:54:11 grooming, a strategic approach to sexual
1:54:14 predation. The information was
1:54:16 incredibly wellreceived by the community
1:54:18 and as it spreads, the following ideas
1:54:21 have been shared. Get the packet to all
1:54:23 staff, parents, and at minimum high
1:54:25 schoolers. get the information into
1:54:28 curriculum and integrate the in
1:54:30 information into our daily school
1:54:31 culture like a district-wide morning
1:54:33 statement of confidence, bodily
1:54:35 autonomy, boundaries, and consent.
1:54:38 Posters with the same information in the
1:54:40 afterchool clubs that teach these
1:54:41 principles based on long-held traditions
1:54:44 of coercion, control, and exploit
1:54:46 exploitation in our country. The
1:54:48 information is relevant to any current
1:54:51 or former TUSD community member who has
1:54:53 experienced predatory behavior in our
1:54:55 district. My heart goes out to you. It's
1:54:58 nothing you deserve, nor was it your
1:54:59 fault. Predators are on a craven search
1:55:02 for validation and conquest, and they
1:55:05 have to be removed. Second, our
1:55:07 superintendent, who we know is hoping to
1:55:09 land a different job, has asked for a
1:55:12 deputy superintendent position under him
1:55:14 so he can focus on closing schools. This
1:55:17 is a stunning example of the financial
1:55:20 theater TUSD engages in. A month ago, we
1:55:23 were duped into believing the cost
1:55:25 savings of eliminating the region 2
1:55:27 assistant superintendent position. A
1:55:30 prudent move, only to find now a deputy
1:55:33 position will only cost $13,000 more
1:55:37 than the eliminated position. The only
1:55:39 thing more hilarious would be to place
1:55:41 the former region 2 employee as deputy.
1:55:44 Please consider how this looks and
1:55:45 affects the morale of our staff. Our
1:55:48 superintendent makes 10 to 15 times our
1:55:50 lowest paid employees. But most
1:55:52 important, he signed up to be a
1:55:53 well-paid public servant. As many
1:55:56 employees have been told in the recent
1:55:58 past, exed employees as they struggle
1:56:00 with low pay and staggering workload. Do
1:56:04 your best. Everyone works overtime and
1:56:07 feel free to find something better.
1:56:10 Third, and most important, the
1:56:11 exceptional education department needs
1:56:13 help. Since 2017, according to state
1:56:16 records, EXE funding has dropped from
1:56:18 29% of instructional dollars to 21%, a
1:56:21 loss of millions each year. Somebody
1:56:24 made this decision, and we would like to
1:56:26 hear publicly the rationale, especially
1:56:28 because last year we were told XED is
1:56:30 growing in needs and numbers. based on
1:56:33 the flow of power and control not only
1:56:35 in TUSD but nationally. I highly doubt
1:56:38 this decision was made or supported by
1:56:40 our director, executive director of
1:56:42 exceptional education. In fact, I have
1:56:45 to imagine Dr. Sammon fully sees the
1:56:47 incredible struggles many Xed employees
1:56:49 are experiencing and wants to fix it. We
1:56:52 look forward to having this addressed in
1:56:54 detail at our upcoming XED forum. The
1:56:57 days of ordering employees to do more
1:56:59 faster and better as if we're machines
1:57:02 are over.
1:57:09 >> Next is Katherine H.
1:57:12 [applause]
1:57:16 [snorts]
1:57:19 Katherine Hess. Last month, I addressed
1:57:22 this board concerning your approval of
1:57:24 Club America to operate at Ringcon High
1:57:27 School. I will focus tonight on two of
1:57:30 those violations that support removal of
1:57:33 this club. The Federal Equal Access Act
1:57:37 and your own governing board policies
1:57:40 forbidding outside groups to control a
1:57:42 school club. The response from your
1:57:45 board member at the March 10th meeting
1:57:47 was whether we like what a club has to
1:57:50 say or not, they have a first amendment
1:57:52 right to say it. This has absolutely
1:57:54 nothing to do with the first amendment.
1:57:56 We all know that almost any group has a
1:57:59 first amendment right to establish an
1:58:01 onampus club if they follow the rules
1:58:04 and regulations of each school. Here are
1:58:07 the specific violations. Students
1:58:10 seeking to form a Club America chapter
1:58:13 must first sign a formal contract called
1:58:16 a TPUSA chapter agreement. They must
1:58:20 maintain ongoing contact with an
1:58:23 assigned Turning Point employee, one of
1:58:26 whom we have on video present at their
1:58:28 first meeting in January at Rencon High
1:58:31 School. Students are required to submit
1:58:34 regular reporting and verification to
1:58:37 Turning Point. They are required to
1:58:40 disclose extensive student officer
1:58:43 contact information. Students must give
1:58:46 Turning Point all their social media
1:58:49 account passwords. The designation of
1:58:52 all social media accounts are the
1:58:54 property of Turning Point. They can
1:58:57 assume control of these accounts at any
1:59:00 time. Students are also encouraged to
1:59:02 submit names of teachers and board
1:59:05 members to a turningpoint watch list.
1:59:08 Encouraging students to surveil and
1:59:11 target staff members is not civic
1:59:14 engagement. Turning point can give
1:59:16 direction to issue press releases when
1:59:20 school or school actions conflict with
1:59:23 their ideology. When an outside
1:59:26 organization exerts operational control
1:59:30 over a club's direction and finances, it
1:59:33 is no longer a student-led organization.
1:59:37 It creates a major conflict with this
1:59:40 board whose job is to oversee all
1:59:43 school-based activities. Club America
1:59:46 with its outside control by Turning
1:59:48 Point is a clear violation of your very
1:59:52 own governing board rules that do not
1:59:55 permit outside group control for student
1:59:58 clubs as well as the Federal Equal
2:00:01 Access Act, which states the very same
2:00:04 thing. They must not be allowed on any
2:00:07 TUSD campus. It is time to do the right
2:00:10 thing. remove Club America from the
2:00:13 Rencon High School campus and deny any
2:00:16 other attempts to certify these clubs on
2:00:19 all TUSD high school campuses.
2:00:24 [applause]
2:00:28 Next is Lily.
2:00:30 Next is Lillian Fox.
2:00:46 I didn't expect my name to come up so
2:00:48 fast. Superintendent Trillo, uh, pres
2:00:52 board president Robbie Shaw, board
2:00:54 members, um, you've got this little
2:00:57 packet.
2:00:59 Um,
2:01:01 the $86.7 million budgeted for furniture
2:01:04 equipment is still unexplained. I've
2:01:07 watched the video. I heard what he said.
2:01:10 It does not explain why that much money
2:01:12 is budgeted. Um, the board bond money
2:01:17 ought to be shown in the um
2:01:21 budget. If you look at this little
2:01:23 thingy, if you look at the top, it shows
2:01:26 you Money, DEG money, Title One money,
2:01:29 and other money. Currently, all the bond
2:01:32 money is lumped under um other money. It
2:01:36 ought to have a separate little column
2:01:38 just exactly like DEG does, so the
2:01:40 public can see where the money is being
2:01:42 spent and and see that you really are
2:01:45 doing what you promised to do. Um,
2:01:47 [clears throat]
2:01:49 you currently have $17,000
2:01:52 budgeted for staff food. That's not
2:01:55 legal.
2:01:57 The attorney general has ru ruled and
2:02:00 the auditor general's website says you
2:02:03 cannot use taxpayer money to feed staff.
2:02:07 All the taxpayer money you're using to
2:02:09 feed staff is listed in red. There's a
2:02:12 bunch of stuff in black because that's
2:02:14 listed under other. So, I don't know if
2:02:16 that's taxpayer money or not. You can
2:02:19 only use taxpayer money to pay pay food
2:02:23 to staff if they are on an approved trip
2:02:26 for an approved meeting. And the trip
2:02:28 has to meet certain requirements.
2:02:30 Otherwise, if you want to use money to
2:02:33 pay for staff, it has to be money that
2:02:35 was given specifically for that or it
2:02:38 has to be part of a grant that says
2:02:40 you're feeding staff. So, what TUSD is
2:02:43 doing is illegal. that you stop this
2:02:45 minute um and use it for something the
2:02:48 kids need. Okay. Um
2:02:53 you pre-approved. Let me go to
2:02:55 administrative expenses because I won't
2:02:57 get to it otherwise.
2:02:59 For years and years and years, turn to
2:03:01 this page. The auditor general has
2:03:04 described TUSD as having very high
2:03:07 administrative expenses. If you look
2:03:10 over here,
2:03:12 uh, we have so many administrative
2:03:14 people that we have one administrative
2:03:17 person for every 39 employees. We also
2:03:21 pay our administrative people more than
2:03:24 other school districts do. When you are
2:03:26 compared to the other large school
2:03:28 districts, we're one of the large school
2:03:30 districts. Our costs are much higher.
2:03:33 They have one administrative person for
2:03:36 every 69. So, we're getting up towards
2:03:39 almost twice this. You've got to do
2:03:42 something. That's what you should be
2:03:43 cutting down here. Again, I'm giving you
2:03:46 the definition of what constitutes
2:03:49 administrative people. Thanks.
2:03:53 [applause]
2:03:58 >> That is that is the last of our
2:04:01 speakers, Dr. Shan. I've got four to be
2:04:03 read. Okay.
2:04:06 Good morning to USD board members. My
2:04:08 name is Tammy Casease and I'm a proud
2:04:10 and I am proud to represent Sanorita
2:04:12 High School. I wanted to follow up on an
2:04:14 email I sent to the board on March 27th
2:04:16 regarding bond projects at San Rita.
2:04:19 Thank you Dr. Shaw for taking the time
2:04:21 to respond to my email. I cannot be here
2:04:23 tonight in person, but wanted to send
2:04:25 more communication because of a very
2:04:27 real impact recent public statements
2:04:29 have had on our school community. Mr.
2:04:31 Romero publicly identified Santaorita as
2:04:34 a school that should be closed before
2:04:36 any formal process, criteria, or
2:04:38 community engagement has taken place.
2:04:40 Even more concerning, that same board
2:04:42 member has stated and voted as such that
2:04:44 he will not support bond funding for our
2:04:46 school based on his perception of
2:04:48 Santaorita, a school that is filled
2:04:50 right now with engaged, committed, and
2:04:52 proud students, families, and staff
2:04:54 members. When funding for facilities is
2:04:56 called into question, it sends a clear
2:04:58 message to our students, families, and
2:05:00 staff members that they are not worth
2:05:02 the same investment as others. That is
2:05:04 an equity issue and it is unacceptable.
2:05:07 How does such a damaging, dismissive
2:05:09 statement about our community, a
2:05:10 community in your care, happen on your
2:05:12 watch? I am responsible for school tours
2:05:14 to potential parents and students, and
2:05:16 this public statement has caused a lot
2:05:18 of questions during my school tours.
2:05:20 We've worked very hard to build
2:05:21 confidence in the community and that
2:05:23 single statement has hurt the years of
2:05:25 hard work we have put forth. Our
2:05:27 students deserve a safe, modern, and
2:05:29 fully supported learning environment
2:05:31 today and not a contingent on or
2:05:33 impacted by the opinion of someone with
2:05:35 a simplistic solution for addressing a
2:05:37 highly complex budget crisis. So
2:05:40 tonight, I'm asking for two things.
2:05:42 First, a clear commitment that Santaita
2:05:44 High School will receive equitable acqu
2:05:46 equitable access to the already approved
2:05:48 and planned bond funding. Second, that
2:05:50 any conversation about potential school
2:05:52 closures and/or consolidations follows a
2:05:55 transparent process that defines
2:05:57 includes defined criteria and authentic
2:05:59 community engagement before a reputable
2:06:02 public conclusions are drawn. We are not
2:06:04 asking for any special treatment. In
2:06:06 fact, we're only asked to be treated
2:06:08 like any other schools in TOD with
2:06:10 fairness, integrity, and responsible
2:06:11 leadership. Thank you, Tammy Casease,
2:06:14 Santaita High School and Career
2:06:15 Readiness Coordinator.
2:06:21 Second letter
2:06:23 from Ryan Townsen. After watching last
2:06:26 week's board meeting, specifically the
2:06:28 bond approval process, I want to thank
2:06:30 board member Extramm for recognizing
2:06:31 that we do a disservice to our community
2:06:34 unless we keep the discussions out in
2:06:36 the open. Closers and consolidations
2:06:38 aren't just budget items. They impact
2:06:40 the heart of our neighborhood, staff,
2:06:42 families, businesses, neighbors, voters,
2:06:43 and most importantly, our students. Last
2:06:46 week's comments seem to suggest that si
2:06:48 decisions are being made outside the
2:06:50 public process and behind closed doors
2:06:52 without input. I hope board member
2:06:54 Romero will join in this commitment to
2:06:56 transparency. Our community needs to be
2:06:59 a part of this process from the start,
2:07:01 not just after decisions are made. Most
2:07:03 importantly, our community needs to be
2:07:05 able to trust that their elected
2:07:07 officials will follow the transparent
2:07:09 legal process for any difficult
2:07:11 decisions that lie ahead. Thank you.
2:07:16 Third [applause]
2:07:17 letter. Good evening, TUSD board members
2:07:20 and community. My name is Jessica
2:07:22 Padilla and I'm a parent of Santaorita
2:07:24 High School. My daughter is currently a
2:07:26 junior at Sanorita and my son will be
2:07:28 attending next year. Right now, our
2:07:30 students are experiencing uncertainty
2:07:32 that they did not create and cannot
2:07:34 control due to comments that were made
2:07:35 at the last board meeting. They are
2:07:38 hearing that their school may close and
2:07:39 at the same time that investments in
2:07:41 their campus may not be supported. That
2:07:44 combination is not just concerning, it
2:07:45 is harmful. It affects morale. It
2:07:48 affects trust. And it affects how
2:07:50 students seen their own value in their
2:07:52 school. It sends a message that a
2:07:54 community is less than. It sends a
2:07:56 message that our students are not worth
2:07:57 the same belief, resources, or future.
2:08:00 When a school is publicly singled out,
2:08:02 especially before a process has even
2:08:04 been discussed or established, it sifts
2:08:06 perception in the larger community.
2:08:08 Enrollment decisions change, competence
2:08:10 erodess, and the very challenges being
2:08:12 cited can become worse. That's why
2:08:15 process matters and the temptation to
2:08:17 identify quick fixes for a complicated
2:08:19 budget crisis must be avoided. If there
2:08:22 are going to be effective conversations
2:08:24 about district budget solutions through
2:08:26 school closures, they must be
2:08:28 transparent, data-driven, include the
2:08:30 voices of the people most impacted. And
2:08:33 until that process is even communicated,
2:08:35 let alone complete, Sanorita students
2:08:37 must have the same commitment from every
2:08:39 board member to a safe, updated, and
2:08:41 fully functional facility as every other
2:08:44 school in TUSD.
2:08:45 It is what is right. It is what is fair,
2:08:48 and it is what is equitable. Sanorita
2:08:50 students and families deserve nothing
2:08:52 less. No student should feel like they
2:08:53 are attending a school that is already
2:08:55 being closed around them as part of
2:08:57 their lived high school experience. They
2:08:59 deserve better. Please do better, board
2:09:02 members. Thank you for your time
2:09:03 respectfully, Miss Padilla.
2:09:06 [applause]
2:09:08 And uh last uh
2:09:12 letter of this evening. Dear TUSD board
2:09:14 members, I am writing to share my
2:09:16 experience as a former employee of
2:09:18 Tucson Unified and to express my deep
2:09:20 disappointment in the recent decision
2:09:22 regarding my financial compensation and
2:09:24 the liquidated damages that I'm required
2:09:26 to pay. My husband and I recently
2:09:28 located relocated from Tucson to Denver
2:09:30 due to his job transfer. a move that
2:09:32 occurred in March, just two months
2:09:34 before the end of the school year.
2:09:36 Despite receiving an offer on our home
2:09:38 in December, we carefully planned this
2:09:40 transition to occur late in the school
2:09:42 year as possible to minimize disruption.
2:09:45 And I personally gave my supervisor 70
2:09:47 days notice to ensure a move a smooth
2:09:49 trans handover my responsibilities.
2:09:52 Throughout my tenure, I was committed to
2:09:54 supporting the special needs children in
2:09:55 the district, a role I know is
2:09:57 critically understaffed. I took pride in
2:10:00 my professionalism and dedication and my
2:10:01 supervisor was supportive of my
2:10:03 transition. However, despite my
2:10:05 contributions and the district's ongoing
2:10:07 challenges in filling teaching
2:10:09 positions, a decision was made by John
2:10:12 Fernandez, the chief human capital
2:10:13 officer, to withhold 2,000 of my earning
2:10:15 competition. This decision feels
2:10:18 particularly unjust given the
2:10:19 circumstances of our move and the
2:10:21 district's broader struggles with
2:10:22 teacher retention. Arizona faces a
2:10:25 severe shortage of educators with
2:10:27 thousands of open teaching positions
2:10:29 statewide. Tucson Unifi, like many
2:10:31 others, has classrooms that remain
2:10:33 unfilled and the focus should be some
2:10:35 supporting and retaining teachers, not
2:10:36 penalizing those who leave due to
2:10:38 unavoidable life circumstances.
2:10:41 My situation is a clear example of how
2:10:43 rigid policies can discourage dedicated
2:10:45 professionals from continuing their
2:10:47 vital work in education. I urge the
2:10:49 governing board to review this decision
2:10:51 and consider the broader impacts such
2:10:52 policies have on teacher morale and
2:10:54 retention. I also hope that the district
2:10:56 will reflect how it can better support
2:10:58 it educator especially in times of
2:10:59 personal transition. Thank you for your
2:11:01 time. Sincerely, Jessica Robertson,
2:11:03 former TUSD child find evaluator.
2:11:07 [applause] And that concludes call to
2:11:09 the audience Dr. Sh.
2:11:11 >> Thank you, Clerk Aluna Rose. Now, our
2:11:13 governing board has the opportunity to
2:11:14 respond to criticism, ask staff to
2:11:16 review a matter, or ask that a matter be
2:11:18 put on a future agenda. Reminder that no
2:11:20 more than two members may legally
2:11:22 address each topic.
2:11:23 >> Dr. Shaw,
2:11:24 >> Miss Shaw, first, I want to thank
2:11:26 everyone who came to speak tonight. Um,
2:11:28 I want to thank uh our student Samuel
2:11:31 for voicing your criticisms about uh the
2:11:34 4-day school uh potential change at
2:11:38 Pelverie. Um, I also want to thank Miss
2:11:42 uh Merillian for uh your continued
2:11:44 advocacy for our um hopeful librarians
2:11:48 and I'd like to ask staff for an update
2:11:52 and uh timeline on posting the certified
2:11:56 librarian positions funded by the
2:11:57 override. [gasps and sighs]
2:11:59 Um
2:12:02 I also want to thank all the par
2:12:04 profofessionals who are here advocating
2:12:06 today. Um, I'm put in a request for uh
2:12:10 some time off to come visit uh your
2:12:13 classrooms. And I also want to place on
2:12:16 a future agenda the demands raised by
2:12:19 Miss Natalie Fry and others regarding
2:12:22 our par profofessionals including a
2:12:25 raise to match what we uh pay for our
2:12:29 outsourced pair of professionals
2:12:31 as well as uh creating a
2:12:35 fair step schedule case load caps and a
2:12:39 1:3
2:12:41 adult to student ratio.
2:12:44 Um, thank you, Miss Hes, for uh raising
2:12:47 those specific concerns
2:12:50 uh regarding um Club America. And I'd
2:12:55 like to ask our legal council to review
2:12:57 the information raised by Miss Hes um
2:13:01 regarding Club America and its outside
2:13:04 group control and potential violations
2:13:07 of our governing board policy.
2:13:10 Um,
2:13:11 thank you, Miss Fox, for also raising
2:13:14 the issue of taxpayer money being used
2:13:18 um incorrectly to feed staff.
2:13:22 Um, and I would like staff um to review
2:13:26 that matter and let us know if um you
2:13:29 know when the governing board and other
2:13:31 staff members are fed here um at our
2:13:34 meetings if that is a misuse of taxpayer
2:13:37 funds.
2:13:39 And that's it. Thank you.
2:13:43 [applause]
2:13:48 >> All right. Thank you everyone. Um Dr.
2:13:50 Trillo, what is the order of our agenda?
2:13:52 Did I miss the agenda adjustments?
2:13:55 >> The agenda adjustment is now that uh
2:13:57 that we move up um the palvery item
2:14:01 which is
2:14:03 item 8.2. I'm sorry 8.1.
2:14:06 >> That's the only thing we're doing out of
2:14:07 order. Yeah. So, I think we're doing out
2:14:08 of order.
2:14:09 >> All right. So, we'll do 8.1 next. All
2:14:11 right. So, we'll do uh 8.1.
2:14:13 Paulo Ready High School Magnet School
2:14:15 Pilot Program 4 day school week school
2:14:17 year 2627. Dr. Trillo.
2:14:26 Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, give them a
2:14:28 round of applause. The Titans are in the
2:14:30 house. How about that? [applause]
2:14:33 President Shaw, members of the governing
2:14:35 board, I want to commend the palvery
2:14:38 community. Though we're not here for
2:14:40 action tonight, we're here to just hear
2:14:42 the concept, hear the idea, and whatever
2:14:45 becomes of this proposal, whatever
2:14:48 action the governing board takes. At the
2:14:51 end of the day, we have to celebrate the
2:14:54 innovation, the daring to dream, the
2:14:56 daring to think differently, the daring
2:14:58 to go outside the box and to really
2:15:01 reflect and think on how the palibvery
2:15:04 community can number one meet the
2:15:05 academic needs of its students in a more
2:15:07 meaningful way, but then also an
2:15:10 innovative way to address staff burnout
2:15:13 while at the same time creating a new
2:15:16 opportunity to bring in more students.
2:15:18 It is that kind of thinking that I am
2:15:21 challenging all of our principles to
2:15:23 engage in as we struggle with declining
2:15:26 enrollment and we challenge ourselves to
2:15:28 recreate and reimagine uh Tucson Unified
2:15:31 School District one school at a time. So
2:15:34 with that, I'll turn it over to lead us
2:15:36 off uh principal Eric Brock who himself
2:15:39 is a proud alumni of Palaverie. Mr.
2:15:42 Rock. [applause]
2:15:51 Good evening, governing board and Dr.
2:15:53 Trujillo. My name is Anna Leia and I'm a
2:15:56 junior at Palaverie.
2:15:58 As a junior with seven classes assigning
2:16:00 me homework every day, I constantly feel
2:16:01 overwhelmed. That was until I learned
2:16:03 about the proposed 4-day school week
2:16:06 with academic support on Fridays. This
2:16:08 new schedule seemed revolutionary. With
2:16:10 an extra day off, I can work on any
2:16:12 leftover work from the week on Friday.
2:16:14 Then on Saturday and Sunday, I can
2:16:16 finally have a weekend again. Even
2:16:18 though some may worry that a 4-day
2:16:20 school week may negatively affect
2:16:21 student achievement, in reality, it
2:16:23 would allow for increased achievement
2:16:25 and greater competition in student
2:16:26 enrollment. To begin, some may worry
2:16:29 about the effect a 4-day school week
2:16:30 would have upon students academic
2:16:33 achievement. If Arizona is already
2:16:35 struggling in academic achievement, why
2:16:37 take a chance that may continue to hurt
2:16:38 Arizona's academics? This is a valid
2:16:41 concern, but research shows that these
2:16:43 worries aren't backed up with any
2:16:45 evidence. In fact, the opposite is true.
2:16:47 For example, Patagonia, which switched
2:16:49 to a 4-day school week two years ago,
2:16:52 already reported a 7% increase in math
2:16:55 benchmark scores.
2:16:58 Also, let's discuss the fact that a
2:16:59 4-day school week would improve school
2:17:01 enrollment competition. In recent years,
2:17:04 there has been a large decrease in TUSD
2:17:06 enrollment, while charter school
2:17:07 enrollment has only gone up. In fact,
2:17:09 even my sister chose to enroll in a
2:17:11 charter school. The hours the school
2:17:13 offered made it easier for her to find
2:17:15 extra time to do school work and apply
2:17:16 to college. If TUSD explored the option
2:17:19 of a different school week schedule,
2:17:21 they could become more competitive in
2:17:22 student enrollment. Overall, a 4-day
2:17:25 school week would benefit everyone on
2:17:26 campus. I hope this proposed schedule is
2:17:29 given the chance to prove all the
2:17:30 opportunities for growth it has to
2:17:32 offer.
2:17:35 [applause]
2:17:40 >> Good evening uh governing board members.
2:17:43 I'm Ysef senior in Palo.
2:17:47 So back in Afghanistan, I used to go to
2:17:49 school six days a week. School was
2:17:51 Saturday through Thursday and Friday was
2:17:54 the only day off. By the end of every
2:17:56 week, I was drained and felt like um
2:18:00 school never really stopped. Most of my
2:18:02 friends and I were always tired and a
2:18:04 lot of a lot of us were struggling in
2:18:07 class. Uh if any of us had
2:18:09 responsibilities at home or anything
2:18:11 else going on, it was really hard to
2:18:13 keep up. My grades were bad and I felt
2:18:16 stuck in that cycle. When I moved to the
2:18:19 US and started going to school five days
2:18:21 a week, my grades started getting better
2:18:23 because I had more time to focus on my
2:18:25 on them. That made me realize that a
2:18:28 school schedule can have a huge effect
2:18:30 on how students perform. Sometimes
2:18:33 different between
2:18:36 uh
2:18:37 the difference between struggling and
2:18:39 succeeding is having enough time to
2:18:41 rest, catch up, and handle life outside
2:18:43 of school. That's why I support the idea
2:18:46 of a 4 day school week. To me, it's not
2:18:49 about doing less work. It's about using
2:18:52 time in a better way. First of all, uh
2:18:54 this schedule won't just mean having an
2:18:56 extra day off. It could be a it could be
2:18:59 a day to get tutoring, retake tests, and
2:19:02 make up assignments or catch up on
2:19:03 missing work. Too many students are
2:19:06 burned out, stressed, or trying to deal
2:19:08 with too much at once. H and having
2:19:10 extra time in the week could really
2:19:12 help. Students also have
2:19:14 responsibilities outside of school like
2:19:16 jobs, internships, family
2:19:18 responsibilities, and appointments just
2:19:21 just to name a few. Sometimes we miss
2:19:24 class because we have to go to doctor's
2:19:26 appointment or take care of something
2:19:28 important outside of uh school. However,
2:19:32 having an extra day in the week could
2:19:35 make time for what we need to do without
2:19:37 having to miss class. It will give
2:19:39 students still more room to breathe and
2:19:42 that can make a real difference. I know
2:19:44 some people worry that students might
2:19:45 learn less with a 4 day school week. I
2:19:48 understand that concern, but I don't
2:19:50 really see it that way. When students
2:19:51 [snorts] aren't exhausted all the time,
2:19:53 they come to school more focused and
2:19:55 ready to learn. Students also do better
2:19:58 in school with this schedule, not
2:19:59 because they have more time, but because
2:20:01 they have better balance. If moving to
2:20:04 from six days to five could change my
2:20:06 life for the better, I can only imagine
2:20:09 the good that a four day schedule could
2:20:11 create at Palo Verde. It's not about
2:20:14 making school easier. It's about making
2:20:16 the school system work better for the
2:20:18 students. Thank you.
2:20:20 [applause]
2:20:25 [applause]
2:20:26 >> All right, governing board. Uh thank you
2:20:28 for having me here tonight to talk about
2:20:30 a proposed pilot for Palvery High
2:20:31 School. And I'd like to thank my faculty
2:20:33 and staff for attending as well and my
2:20:35 students who are a part of the
2:20:36 presentation.
2:20:39 So I have a packet that indicates a more
2:20:41 broader um in-depth approach to this
2:20:44 presentation for the pilot. Um I'm going
2:20:46 to go through highlights to get through
2:20:48 some important parts pretty quickly. Um
2:20:50 in order to set the stage, I think it's
2:20:52 it's obvious that schools are forced to
2:20:54 compete on quality programming um and
2:20:56 their culture to attract students. I
2:20:58 represent the state champion boys
2:21:00 basketball team. By the way,
2:21:03 [applause and cheering]
2:21:06 in a graphic that Dr. Trillo shared with
2:21:09 administrators, uh the ESA, the
2:21:10 empowerment scholarship account, there
2:21:12 are 3,700 students in TUSD's area um
2:21:16 that are paid between 7 and $8,000 to
2:21:18 not go to our schools. Um this proposal
2:21:21 is a way to attract students. Um that's
2:21:23 a loss of $26 million. There's also a
2:21:26 generational demographic shift. 45% of
2:21:29 homes east of Swan are 55 and older.
2:21:33 When I went to Palavery, my freshman
2:21:35 class was 800. That's currently bigger
2:21:38 than my entire school. So, I'm here to
2:21:41 show you a couple of uh enrollment
2:21:43 trends. If you look uh at a 5-year
2:21:45 period here, um from 2020 2021 through
2:21:49 2526, uh these are high schools. um
2:21:52 we've lost over a thousand students. If
2:21:55 we look at middle schools, um that's a
2:21:58 very similar number over that time
2:21:59 frame. And these are just schools that
2:22:01 are within um I'll call it a stones
2:22:04 throw. These do not include westside
2:22:05 schools like PBLO, Choya, things like
2:22:07 that. These are more the footprint of um
2:22:10 of my home. Um chose to represent this
2:22:14 graph differently. Uh but I think what
2:22:16 you can see is sort of an upward trend.
2:22:17 These are enrollment trends for charter
2:22:20 schools that again are in my area. Um
2:22:22 they're not necessarily um students that
2:22:26 are in primary ages. But in the same
2:22:28 time that our high schools have gone
2:22:29 down a thousand, the charter schools
2:22:31 have gone up over a thousand. Um so my
2:22:34 proposal is to move to a 4-day school
2:22:36 week in order to attract students. Um
2:22:39 the proposal maintains our seven period
2:22:41 day and uh extends classes to 60 minutes
2:22:44 Monday through Thursday. Um the graphic
2:22:47 that you see that's small there is just
2:22:49 a representation of recommended
2:22:50 instructional time from AD. And so what
2:22:53 I looked at specifically is uh like our
2:22:56 math achievement scores and how we would
2:22:59 how we would attack any possible loss in
2:23:02 achievement for math. So my proposal
2:23:04 utilizes a seven period day in order to
2:23:07 have an an additional math class
2:23:09 doubling AD's recommended minute counts.
2:23:12 Um, in order to determine which day for
2:23:16 uh reduction, I I looked at our school
2:23:18 calendar and you can see there are
2:23:19 countless days on Fridays uh that are
2:23:21 off. So rather than make it a 3-day
2:23:23 week, we chose Fridays for the proposal.
2:23:27 Um, what a teacher workday looks like is
2:23:29 a a 7:30 to 4:30. Um, and so that gets
2:23:32 us to a 34h hour count. And then Friday,
2:23:34 once a month, our teachers come in. We
2:23:37 are open every Friday. And there is a
2:23:39 rotation on Friday to support students
2:23:41 on a flex Friday. an enrichment Friday,
2:23:43 but once a month teachers come in to do
2:23:46 a shift in order to support our students
2:23:48 who need extra help. You had heard from
2:23:50 some of the students in their essays.
2:23:51 That's a way for them to come to school
2:23:53 to make up tests. Um it's a way for them
2:23:55 to get extra help. And then you'll hear
2:23:57 from some teachers tonight also that
2:23:59 will talk about uh ways that they're
2:24:01 going to invite students in on Fridays.
2:24:04 So this is an example schedule. On the
2:24:05 lefth hand side in the white areas um I
2:24:08 have different contents, science, math,
2:24:09 English, and social studies. And what we
2:24:12 did is we took each of the teachers that
2:24:14 are assigned in those contents and we
2:24:16 organized them into four groups for them
2:24:19 to come in and help our students. So on
2:24:22 the right hand side, the one with the
2:24:24 yellow highlights that represents our
2:24:25 district calendar and the assignments of
2:24:28 our teachers to come in on the day of
2:24:30 recess um so that we can help our
2:24:32 students uh achieve. All right. So, um,
2:24:36 in doing research on what a 4-day week
2:24:40 looks like nationally, what I found out
2:24:42 is that there's a possibility for, uh,
2:24:44 loss of achievement in math. And so, in
2:24:47 order to safeguard achievement, um, I
2:24:49 mentioned offering an additional class.
2:24:51 So, if I was a ninth grader taking
2:24:54 algebra 1, I would be assigned a math
2:24:56 elective class. So, I would double those
2:24:58 minutes. I would have two math classes
2:25:00 during the day that exists 9 through 11.
2:25:03 um in order to support our students to
2:25:05 increase our student our math
2:25:07 achievement on ACTs and hopefully
2:25:10 addressing our letter grade. Um
2:25:13 additionally, keeping that seven period
2:25:15 day is key in this aspect because it
2:25:17 allows us over our sixth period peers um
2:25:20 to offer that math elective.
2:25:23 All right. So, I have a couple teachers
2:25:25 that I would like to you to hear from
2:25:27 that talk about ways that they will
2:25:28 organize our Fridays.
2:25:33 >> [applause]
2:25:37 >> I'm Arwin Newman and I represent that
2:25:39 English side as the English department
2:25:41 chair. Uh we would be identifying
2:25:44 students using common formatives,
2:25:45 informal formatives, classwork. What are
2:25:48 you missing? Did you miss something? Do
2:25:49 you need to make it up? Benchmarks. We
2:25:52 have the SAS curriculum which we're
2:25:53 going to have some new tests with next
2:25:55 year. I haven't heard much about it for
2:25:57 from the district yet, but we're looking
2:25:59 forward to that. ELL, etc., etc. to
2:26:02 identify individuals and groups of
2:26:03 students that need help but also maybe
2:26:06 even need a little bit of enrichment.
2:26:08 One of those has a QR code on it which
2:26:10 they'll be able to scan to register to
2:26:12 come on Fridays where we can help them
2:26:15 with increasing their skills in ELA.
2:26:21 >> Hi, I'm Carol Kegler. I'm the math
2:26:23 department chair. Um we I wanted to talk
2:26:26 about how we would be notifying parents
2:26:28 about the this opportunity. Uh first of
2:26:31 all the information about the program
2:26:33 would be provided in uh when the
2:26:37 syllabus goes out at the beginning of
2:26:39 the year so the parents know that this
2:26:40 program exists. Um whenever
2:26:44 uh teachers feel that there's a student
2:26:45 who might need additional help or even
2:26:48 kids who just might need um extra
2:26:52 challenges because their math class um
2:26:56 maybe isn't as challenging as they um
2:27:01 could be doing. Um, a notice would be
2:27:04 sent home
2:27:06 by each student explaining what it is
2:27:09 that uh, we hope to accomplish and when
2:27:13 we would like to see the student.
2:27:14 Parents would then have the ability to
2:27:17 accept the date that we gave them u, and
2:27:20 choose a time that works for them. They
2:27:23 could say, um, I can't, my student can't
2:27:25 get in, but I would like for them to do
2:27:27 Zoom tutoring. or they could say this is
2:27:30 not a date that works for us. Could we
2:27:32 change it to a different day? So, there
2:27:35 are options for them. Um, but we are
2:27:38 also making sure that we get email
2:27:41 addresses because that's probably the
2:27:43 quickest way to keep them informed.
2:27:47 [applause]
2:27:50 Okay. Another aspect of moving to a
2:27:52 4-day week explores an opportunity
2:27:54 within our CCRI index. It's a an
2:27:56 evaluation system for high schools. Um,
2:27:58 and so this particular thing is
2:28:00 something that is completely
2:28:01 underutilized at my school. In five
2:28:03 years, we've had six students complete a
2:28:05 work-based learning, 120 hour internship
2:28:08 or job shadowing. Typically, this is
2:28:10 something that our CTE program um
2:28:13 definitely helps us out with. And so
2:28:16 I've def I have worked with uh Chuck
2:28:18 McCullum on a a programmatic change
2:28:21 opportunity so that we can increase what
2:28:23 this looks like. But frequently when
2:28:25 asked uh students why they're not
2:28:26 interested in the job shadowing or or
2:28:29 internships, they talk about getting
2:28:30 home after four o'clock closer to five,
2:28:33 trying to find a business that'll work
2:28:34 with their schedules, balancing their
2:28:36 homework and their home life. Um by
2:28:38 having a day of recess, this gives us an
2:28:40 opportunity for students to explore
2:28:42 create career related opportunities and
2:28:44 to complete internships and in turn
2:28:47 helping our school score better on the
2:28:48 CCRI index. Um there is a large aspect
2:28:53 of teacher recruitment and retention
2:28:54 that studies have have shown uh movement
2:28:57 to a 4-day week helps. So in a
2:28:59 particular example here um Jennifer
2:29:02 Smith a professor at Purdue talks about
2:29:04 uh applications increasing four times
2:29:06 the normal amount. Prairieview High
2:29:08 School was cited um and said that
2:29:10 typically they have two or three
2:29:12 applicants that represents exactly what
2:29:14 my school is when we have an open job
2:29:16 and now they see 10 to 12 applicants.
2:29:18 Some of those benefits for teachers are
2:29:20 improved work life balance and family
2:29:22 time, increased job satisfaction and
2:29:24 morale, and it's incre and it's a way to
2:29:27 um to show them a non-monetary perk to
2:29:30 be able to have that day of recess. Um
2:29:32 the impact on staffing also helps re
2:29:34 reduce teacher turnover and supports
2:29:37 long-term stability at our school. Um
2:29:39 there are some non-academic outcomes
2:29:41 that I'd like our counselor to talk
2:29:42 about.
2:29:44 >> Hello. All right. So, as far as um
2:29:48 bullying and fighting, schools that have
2:29:50 adopted the 4-day school week have seen
2:29:52 a decrease in these incidents. And with
2:29:55 attendance, um there is not a lot of
2:29:58 data, but um like one of our students
2:30:00 talked about earlier, the Patagonia
2:30:02 School District, they've been under this
2:30:04 um school 4-day school week for two
2:30:06 years now and they've seen a 3.6%
2:30:10 increase in attendance. And then um just
2:30:13 talking with some of our students who I
2:30:15 would just like to say I'm very proud of
2:30:16 for you guys for being here and
2:30:18 speaking. This is very scary. [laughter]
2:30:20 So as a counselor, I'm very proud of
2:30:22 them right now. But um they also
2:30:25 recognize that this is an opportunity
2:30:26 for increased time for work-based
2:30:28 learning um and internships, which we
2:30:30 get asked about a lot trying to help
2:30:32 students get that real world experience.
2:30:34 Um dual enrollment or college prep,
2:30:36 tutoring and academic support, and as
2:30:39 well as family responsibilities. A lot
2:30:40 of my students are working to support
2:30:42 their families and so allowing them the
2:30:44 opportunity to do this would be great.
2:30:47 Thank you.
2:30:51 [applause]
2:30:55 Good evening governor board members. My
2:30:58 name is Shaml Kurie. I'm a junior at
2:31:00 Paulaver High Magnus School. I will be
2:31:03 talking to you today about family and
2:31:05 student benefits. So starting off
2:31:07 appointments on Friday. What does that
2:31:09 typically mean? To begin, students are
2:31:11 able to use the Friday off to schedule
2:31:13 appointments. That means that it instead
2:31:16 of students missing schools school from
2:31:18 Monday to Thursday due to appointments,
2:31:20 they could use the Friday off to attend
2:31:22 appointments. But in case of any
2:31:24 emergency, the student is in need of the
2:31:26 appointments during Monday through
2:31:27 Thursday. That could also be acceptable.
2:31:30 We want to encourage students to attend
2:31:32 all four days and use the Friday off for
2:31:34 other outside of school activities. Next
2:31:37 up is going to be older students can
2:31:38 assist with sibling transportation.
2:31:41 Juniors and senior seniors will be able
2:31:43 to drive which allows them to assist
2:31:46 their families with younger sibling
2:31:47 transportation. This gives parents an
2:31:49 opportunity of not having to worry for
2:31:51 their kids drop off or pickup. Next,
2:31:54 opportunity for part-time employment.
2:31:57 Upperassman students are able to use the
2:31:59 Friday factor to work a part-time job,
2:32:01 which allows them to make money and save
2:32:03 that money for future expenses, such as
2:32:05 students who are attending college,
2:32:07 university, after high school. That
2:32:10 money could also be used for tuition.
2:32:13 Students that work on the Friday off
2:32:15 could also help parents out on bills,
2:32:17 which is very helpful for many parents
2:32:19 who tend to struggle with bills.
2:32:22 And then increase school schedule
2:32:24 flexibility. Since our school offers
2:32:27 seven classes per day, it allows
2:32:29 students to finish credits earlier. So
2:32:31 when they get to their senior year, they
2:32:32 are able to to have a schedule
2:32:34 flexibility. I will be using myself as
2:32:37 an example. Since Polarity offered me
2:32:39 seven classes, I was able to collect 22
2:32:42 credits just in my junior year. How
2:32:44 amazing is that? This means that in my
2:32:46 senior year, I could have a flexible
2:32:48 schedule will which will also allow me
2:32:50 to attend Jed and I won't be late to my
2:32:52 class since Jed has a strict rule of
2:32:55 time. This will also allow me to finish
2:32:57 Jed and graduate with a certificate of a
2:32:59 medical assistant just because Paulie
2:33:01 offered me those seven classes. I can
2:33:03 use that Friday off to apply to multiple
2:33:05 colleges and scholarships throughout the
2:33:07 school year. I can also pursue
2:33:09 internships and job job shadowings on
2:33:11 those Fridays. Thank you. [applause]
2:33:20 Hello, my name is Saul. Uh, I'm a junior
2:33:23 at Polar Magnet High School. And I have
2:33:26 this I have this board right here where
2:33:28 I wanted to present like a day in my
2:33:31 life. And I know students that are in
2:33:33 the same situation as me. Um, students
2:33:36 that have a job. Um, and I wanted to
2:33:39 just show you guys instead of just tell
2:33:41 you. and me myself and other students
2:33:45 wake up around 7 in the morning go to
2:33:48 school go to school and I myself finish
2:33:52 at 4 so I just wanted to just remove all
2:33:55 of these hours that we have right here
2:33:58 all of these hours
2:34:01 and me as a um student that has a job I
2:34:06 have to take my sister after school to
2:34:09 her uh our house and then from there go
2:34:11 to work and I start work at 5 and end an
2:34:15 average time around 12 to 12 uh 12:30.
2:34:20 Uh you may say, "Oh my god, why you guys
2:34:21 working? Why you work so much?" It's
2:34:23 because of the uh like in my I'm the
2:34:26 oldest in my family. So I don't like I
2:34:28 have to not just be there but also help
2:34:31 provide to my family as financial
2:34:33 because um my dad as an immigrant also
2:34:37 needs help and my parents are really
2:34:39 like old so that just comes as my job as
2:34:43 an older brother and older son to step
2:34:46 in. Um, and I just wanted to like cross
2:34:49 all of this out
2:34:51 right here. And I just wanted to show
2:34:54 like as as a human and our human brain,
2:34:57 if you're getting out around 12, I don't
2:34:59 think that like the human brain doesn't
2:35:01 have energy to proceed to do homework,
2:35:04 especially as a dual enrollment or
2:35:05 honors student. Um, so I just wanted to
2:35:09 show you that. And I also just heard Mr.
2:35:11 Brog talk about sports and myself as a
2:35:14 varsity in soccer. Um, I've known my
2:35:17 teammates that are immigrants and don't
2:35:20 really understand English, so they
2:35:22 really don't care about the uh like
2:35:24 education, but sports also like help you
2:35:28 um like that Friday will help them and
2:35:31 force them to pick up their grades.
2:35:33 That's why here too that Friday will
2:35:36 also help me as a student that works and
2:35:38 other students that work um like have
2:35:40 that time at during Fridays to do work
2:35:44 and come to school. not to goof off but
2:35:46 to also come and take advantage of those
2:35:48 teachers that are there for us to do our
2:35:51 work and catch up with work and take
2:35:52 retake tests. That'll be it. Thank you
2:35:55 for listening to me and getting the
2:35:57 opportunity to be here.
2:36:00 [applause]
2:36:03 >> Good evening board uh esteemed members
2:36:06 uh Dr. Cuillo uh I appreciate you for
2:36:08 having me. Uh my name is Fernando. I'm a
2:36:10 junior at Palverie. Um, one of the
2:36:12 benefits that I have viewed of adopting
2:36:16 a 4-day school week is um, as a student
2:36:18 athlete is reducing the amount of class
2:36:20 time, instruction time that is missed.
2:36:22 Oftent times due to our renovation of
2:36:25 um, our gymnasium, I missed a lot of
2:36:28 class time because we would travel to
2:36:30 what some might say is the middle of
2:36:31 nowhere. Um, and I missed most of my
2:36:35 second half of the day constantly.
2:36:38 And with that Friday, it would have been
2:36:40 useful to just cut those missed classes
2:36:43 in half. And then secondly, having
2:36:46 access to opportunities that's playing
2:36:48 sports takes away. Um, being a varsity
2:36:51 athlete athlete, I normally don't get
2:36:53 out of practice till 7:00. By then, I
2:36:57 have to go get my little brother from
2:36:58 practice, making it I don't get home
2:37:01 till 8. And that's a struggle for
2:37:04 homework and all my other
2:37:05 responsibilities. Having that Friday
2:37:06 would allow me to apply to colleges,
2:37:10 um, looking into internships that I
2:37:12 otherwise wouldn't have an opportunity
2:37:13 to apply to because of my time
2:37:15 constraints. Thank you.
2:37:18 [applause]
2:37:23 >> Hello all. My name is Veronica Yala. I'm
2:37:25 actually Fernando's mom. Um, I am in
2:37:30 favor for it because that Friday you
2:37:34 time is fleeting, right? you. They were
2:37:36 babies yesterday and tomorrow like he'll
2:37:39 be a senior. So, I just I love the idea
2:37:42 of having a slow Friday morning. If I
2:37:45 want to make them pancakes and sit
2:37:46 around the table and usually the
2:37:48 weekends are go go go because they play
2:37:50 club basketball and do other things, but
2:37:52 having that extra time, I would I think
2:37:55 it would soothe my soul and I think a
2:37:57 lot of parents could also benefit with
2:37:59 that. Um, I appreciate you listening to
2:38:02 me and appreciate your time. [applause]
2:38:10 I'll make this quick. U my name is
2:38:12 Christina Daniel. I am a parent to a
2:38:14 freshman at Palverie High School and I
2:38:16 also am very much in favor of a 4-day
2:38:18 school week. Um this my son is in a
2:38:22 unique but not uncommon situation. His
2:38:24 father lives back in Michigan. So having
2:38:26 the ability to have a Friday off gives
2:38:29 us more time for travel, more time for
2:38:31 um for him to spend with his father when
2:38:33 he goes back and forth during different
2:38:35 breaks. Um this is also a pilot with a
2:38:38 purpose. I think this is time to try
2:38:41 something different because every time
2:38:42 we've done the same thing and gotten
2:38:45 worse results or the same results. So
2:38:47 let's try something different. That's
2:38:48 all [applause]
2:38:53 >> just to uh just for time purposes. I
2:38:56 want to make sure that all of our
2:38:57 student, parent, and employee ver voices
2:38:59 have been heard. And I would say we
2:39:02 probably now want to shift into
2:39:03 governing board questions. I know we've
2:39:05 got a lot of other slides. Maybe some of
2:39:07 the questions that you'll hear, you can
2:39:09 use some of those slides to address
2:39:10 whether it's a survey or the schedule or
2:39:12 the tracks. So that I'll I'll turn it
2:39:14 back to you.
2:39:15 >> Thank you.
2:39:24 I would appreciate if you could quickly
2:39:25 go through some of the survey data.
2:39:26 >> Okay, I'll go quickly. Uh so up front I
2:39:29 have the the parent survey data and so
2:39:31 uh there are three questions that I
2:39:32 thought were most prudent. Um the the
2:39:35 first is uh number nine where it talks
2:39:37 about us pursuing an innovative
2:39:39 scheduling idea and so agree or strongly
2:39:42 agree was 88% of our parents. Um the
2:39:45 number 11 at the bottom left for me uh
2:39:48 prefer a 4-day school week for my
2:39:49 student. 87% agree or strongly agree, 5%
2:39:53 were neutral and 7% disagree. Um and
2:39:56 then the uh circle graphic represents
2:40:00 how our parents responded about what
2:40:02 they would use for Friday. Yes, they
2:40:04 would regularly attend. Um occasionally
2:40:06 they would attend. No, they wouldn't.
2:40:08 Pretty sure those are the students that
2:40:10 got a hold of their parents' phone. Um
2:40:12 and then the unsure aspect about how to
2:40:15 use Fridays. When we look at the the
2:40:17 student responses, um 72% agree or
2:40:20 strongly agree with 15% being neutral.
2:40:23 Um and then we have 11% disagree and 3%
2:40:26 didn't know. Um and how would you use
2:40:29 those days off? So that's completing
2:40:31 homework or studying, resting or
2:40:32 recharging, uh working a job, uh
2:40:35 participating in activities or
2:40:37 athletics, and spending time with
2:40:38 family. And then our parent survey, uh,
2:40:42 97%
2:40:43 agree or strongly agree, um, that they
2:40:46 would be in support of a pilot for a
2:40:48 4-day school week with 3% being, um,
2:40:52 neutral.
2:40:59 All right, I know I have a lot of
2:41:00 questions and comments and everything,
2:41:01 but I'll turn over my governing board
2:41:03 members for any questions first. Go
2:41:05 ahead, Miss Len Rose and Miss Shaw.
2:41:06 Thank
2:41:08 >> thank you Dr. Shaw. Um hello Mr. Brock.
2:41:11 Thank you so much. Um and thank you
2:41:14 students uh for coming. I always love
2:41:18 when students come and present to the
2:41:20 school board because you guys this is
2:41:22 why we're here. Um, so you're all very
2:41:27 if anybody is listening or watching or
2:41:29 has like negative things to say about
2:41:31 what happens at TUSD and what how the
2:41:34 students come out, just come to any one
2:41:35 of our schools and see what the kids are
2:41:37 doing because and what our teachers are
2:41:41 doing um [applause] and parent support.
2:41:44 I'm a parent. Um, I actually showed this
2:41:47 to my daughter earlier or last night and
2:41:50 she's graduating senior at Ringcon and
2:41:52 she was mad that this is going to
2:41:53 happen. So, um, but she'll be in
2:41:56 college. She can figure out her own
2:41:57 schedule. [laughter] But um anyway um so
2:42:00 my question is like
2:42:05 I and I like the parent participation
2:42:07 and has the what have the the well we
2:42:11 heard the young man who was also um um
2:42:14 Sammy who came during the call of the
2:42:16 audience. What other sort of opposition
2:42:18 have you heard?
2:42:19 >> So I think a lot of the students just
2:42:20 voiced an unfamiliarity with what the
2:42:22 extension of the day would would result
2:42:25 in. Um and so when we look at minute
2:42:27 counts over the course of a week um you
2:42:30 know part of any potential mitigation of
2:42:33 loss of achievement was to maintain
2:42:35 minute counts right so um we're at 235
2:42:38 currently we would be at 240 by adopting
2:42:42 this 4 day week so not only do we
2:42:44 maintain we add you know a minimal
2:42:46 amount five five minutes but that does
2:42:48 result the concession of having a Friday
2:42:49 off would result in those students being
2:42:51 at on campus for an extra hour during
2:42:53 the day. Now, there are other
2:42:55 opportunities because we are a seven
2:42:56 period day and you heard Sham talk about
2:42:58 potentially a reduction so that she can
2:43:00 go to to JTED. Um, so there are some
2:43:03 flexible schedules that are available to
2:43:05 our students because we are a seven
2:43:06 period day. Um, but mostly the students
2:43:09 just didn't know um what that would be
2:43:12 like if they had to be there till 4, a
2:43:14 change, they're used to 5 days. Those
2:43:17 were the students that I had spoken to
2:43:18 and what their opposition was.
2:43:21 >> Thank you.
2:43:24 Miss Miss Sha,
2:43:25 >> thank you for your presentation and
2:43:27 thanks to everyone who came to speak
2:43:29 about this agenda item. Um, I do have a
2:43:33 couple questions and my one comment is
2:43:36 that I think you know this is an
2:43:38 exciting model and it seems to have a
2:43:40 multitude of benefits. So I'm um hopeful
2:43:43 that if we do approve it uh we can see
2:43:46 those uh data points realized. Uh my
2:43:50 first question um is just to clarify
2:43:52 that the longer period schedule um for
2:43:57 the 4day uh week would not impact our
2:44:00 average daily membership at this school.
2:44:02 >> No, it would not. Um and I did compare
2:44:04 like our bell schedules and the minute
2:44:06 counts like a 60-minute count um
2:44:08 compared to say Sunnyside at 55 or
2:44:11 Flowing Wells at 55 or modified blocks
2:44:13 that result in over an hour but only go
2:44:15 a couple times a week. Um but yeah, our
2:44:18 our minute counts would not be affected
2:44:20 by ADM because we're increasing our
2:44:22 minutes during the day.
2:44:23 >> Great. Um and then um I imagine and I
2:44:28 believe you said that um all students
2:44:30 will be allowed on campus on Fridays. Um
2:44:34 and I was wondering about like food
2:44:38 service, like maybe they don't need to
2:44:40 come on Friday, but they want to get a
2:44:41 lunch or a breakfast. And so, um, has
2:44:45 there been any exploration about how
2:44:47 food service might be impacted and how,
2:44:49 uh, we can protect against food waste on
2:44:52 Fridays?
2:44:52 >> Yes, ma'am. I think that there's
2:44:54 certainly going to be an adjustment with
2:44:56 trying to understand how many students
2:44:58 are taking advantage of our Friday
2:45:00 services. So, we are fully open. We will
2:45:02 be serving breakfast and lunch. Students
2:45:03 can come in and get breakfast and then
2:45:05 hop in class and get a little bit of
2:45:07 assistance. They can come and get lunch
2:45:08 and get and see one teacher. They can
2:45:11 see all seven teachers. they can go to
2:45:13 their after-school athletic activities
2:45:15 or um fine arts um performances or
2:45:19 practices. So in this way um I did talk
2:45:22 to the director of food service Lindsay
2:45:23 Aguilar. um we sort of talked about the
2:45:26 way that we managed COVID where students
2:45:28 would come to campus um and receive
2:45:30 their meals and uh I had asked her to
2:45:33 talk in in sort of a jobalike situation
2:45:35 with other directors um that are that
2:45:38 are different districts that have 4day
2:45:41 school weeks and she's gotten pointers
2:45:43 from them. Um, but I definitely think
2:45:45 that one of the things that we're trying
2:45:47 to do uh through the suggestion of our
2:45:49 superintendent is to utilize a service
2:45:52 called bookings um for students to
2:45:54 notify us that they're coming. You saw
2:45:56 what our teachers would and it's in the
2:45:58 packets for you the way they would
2:45:59 invite people. There's also services for
2:46:02 them to use a QR code to notify us that
2:46:05 they're coming. We'll certainly accept
2:46:06 anybody that walks in, but that way we
2:46:08 can sort of plan more appropriately.
2:46:11 >> Great. Thank you.
2:46:14 Well, Mr. Romero, then Miss Extramm.
2:46:17 >> Go ahead.
2:46:19 >> Are there other um programs or school
2:46:23 that are due in the four-week program in
2:46:24 Puma County?
2:46:26 >> Puma County. I do not uh San Miguel San
2:46:31 Manuel
2:46:33 >> is that
2:46:36 charters
2:46:37 >> charters.
2:46:38 >> Charters, but not a traditional school
2:46:40 district. Um, but otherwise, Patagonia
2:46:42 just completed the second year of their
2:46:43 three-year pilot. Kasagaron Paige, uh,
2:46:46 Pinetop, uh, there's numerous different,
2:46:50 uh, districts that use this.
2:46:51 >> Okay. And then as far as in Arizona,
2:46:53 just going outside of our little area,
2:46:56 I'm I'm guessing there's other schools,
2:46:58 definitely probably charters, but other
2:47:00 public schools in Arizona that are doing
2:47:02 things like this, or there other schools
2:47:04 that are doing pilot, I guess. Are you
2:47:06 following a model that you've seen
2:47:08 somewhere out there or is this kind of
2:47:12 you guys are seeing what's out there and
2:47:14 picking out some of the good things and
2:47:16 see how you can implement them into our
2:47:18 uh TUSD uh as a pilot.
2:47:21 >> So there are there are a significant
2:47:23 amount of districts that are moving to
2:47:25 this um in multiple states. uh it's
2:47:29 something that's spreading as a more
2:47:31 common occurrence that's being handled
2:47:33 now um because of the brevity that I
2:47:35 needed to be uh I do not have the
2:47:37 information directly in front of me but
2:47:39 there's thousands of school districts
2:47:41 that have adopted this nationwide um and
2:47:44 so what I did what I was charged with is
2:47:46 to you know as a father of two what if
2:47:48 my son or daughter came to me and said I
2:47:51 want to go to a 4-day school week well
2:47:52 my first question as a parent would be
2:47:54 how do I pro protect their achievement
2:47:56 and so that's why I put in the slide
2:47:58 about academic safeguards. What I read
2:48:00 um through multiple studies in the last
2:48:02 page of your packet is the citations of
2:48:04 the studies that I read um was that
2:48:06 there's no significant deviation in ELA,
2:48:08 right? Um but there is a chance in
2:48:11 nonrural, so suburban high schools could
2:48:14 potentially see a loss of a standard
2:48:16 deviation of 0.09 in math. My answer to
2:48:19 that was to double my math class and to
2:48:22 go from 60 minutes to [clears throat]
2:48:23 120.
2:48:26 Thank you.
2:48:30 Thank you for your presentation to
2:48:33 everyone who spoke today. Uh so I have a
2:48:36 question about transportation. How
2:48:38 [clears throat] would um that affect the
2:48:40 bus schedules?
2:48:41 >> So in talking to the director uh Martha
2:48:43 Zamora, first of all, we only have two
2:48:46 uh I'll call them GenEd buses. Um we
2:48:48 receive a lot of contracted bus support
2:48:50 for our special education students. Um
2:48:53 but we are not looking at that being an
2:48:56 effect to us in any way because of the
2:48:58 current usage of our buses. Um but I
2:49:00 talked to her about what would happen if
2:49:02 you know my goal works and we attract
2:49:03 more students. And so if you look uh on
2:49:06 the complete packet which was omitted
2:49:07 from what I've showed uh here tonight is
2:49:10 that transportation had an influence on
2:49:12 the bell schedule. So 810 to 410
2:49:14 actually puts us in the third tier which
2:49:16 gives the most bus availability and the
2:49:18 most driver availability um because it
2:49:21 allows the current staffing to handle
2:49:23 some of the the younger students and get
2:49:26 them picked up and dropped off before
2:49:28 handling us.
2:49:29 >> Okay. And then staff um survey is that
2:49:32 stakeholders or
2:49:35 >> um so that was made available to uh
2:49:39 here um okay student response the staff
2:49:42 response so there were 66 responses to
2:49:45 that and so every I met with everyone
2:49:47 through our PLC period um gave them like
2:49:51 some of the basic information behind
2:49:53 this and then opened up a survey over
2:49:55 the course of a week for them to
2:49:56 respond.
2:49:59 Okay.
2:50:01 I just would like to thank you. I you
2:50:03 put a lot of work into this and I think
2:50:06 like someone had said, we've keep doing
2:50:08 the same thing over and over again. Why
2:50:10 not try something new?
2:50:12 >> I think I was definitely interested in
2:50:13 Patagonia's immediate results
2:50:15 academically. Um and then because uh
2:50:18 there were some news outlets that picked
2:50:20 up um theformational pieces that I had
2:50:22 passed out to the parents for um their
2:50:25 response and survey. I had two students
2:50:27 that were charter schools that during
2:50:28 spring break because I work during
2:50:30 spring break asked for school tours
2:50:32 because they heard of it and said if
2:50:33 this is approved they're bringing
2:50:34 friends.
2:50:37 [applause]
2:50:43 And then I just want to clarify if a
2:50:46 student wants to continue to attend
2:50:47 every Friday, they're able to do so.
2:50:49 >> Yes, ma'am. We're open.
2:50:50 >> Okay. Thank you.
2:50:54 [applause]
2:50:57 >> Thank you.
2:50:57 >> I have a bunch of questions. Um Oh,
2:50:59 don't go. This isn't over yet.
2:51:02 >> Thought [laughter] I got
2:51:02 >> um and uh so if anybody has other
2:51:05 questions as I go through mine is feel
2:51:06 free to interrupt me um to continue
2:51:08 asking some questions and want to say
2:51:10 thank you for Principal Brock for doing
2:51:11 this innovative approach. I love
2:51:13 innovation. I love kind of some changes
2:51:14 and trying some different things and I
2:51:16 really appreciate everyone who came here
2:51:17 tonight to speak against the uh proposal
2:51:20 earlier. I call to audience but uh for
2:51:22 the proposal here tonight as well. Um so
2:51:25 and I had a unique experience in high
2:51:27 school. I went to a uh this is back in
2:51:29 the Chicago suburbs. I went to this uh
2:51:31 magnet state high school in in Aurora,
2:51:33 Illinois. Uh and we had a 4-day school
2:51:36 week um in my high school. This is back
2:51:39 in the stone ages of the '9s.
2:51:41 [laughter] And a lot of students in that
2:51:44 uh fifth day uh some of us would you get
2:51:46 a chance to relax and gosh sleep in and
2:51:48 catch up on things and um catch up on
2:51:51 homework. Uh some of them did like these
2:51:53 great programs. Some people had
2:51:54 internships at Firmeny Lab down the
2:51:56 street or all the way into the city of
2:51:57 Chicago universities and doing research
2:52:00 and other things uh which really helped
2:52:01 kind of increase their knowledge and uh
2:52:03 their applications to to colleges around
2:52:05 the country. And so I've seen this in
2:52:07 action from my own high school
2:52:08 experience and saw it, you know, as a
2:52:10 really positive thing for for what we
2:52:12 were doing um there. So I'm really
2:52:15 excited about this coming to hopefully
2:52:17 fruition if this is approved. Uh a
2:52:19 couple questions I had um going back to
2:52:22 Miss Extramm's bus question. So if a
2:52:24 student who takes a bus 4 days a week
2:52:26 needs to come in for an exam or teacher
2:52:28 hours, how would they come to school in
2:52:30 the middle of day on a Friday?
2:52:33 So
2:52:34 >> just for that like hour or two that they
2:52:35 need to come in and do something.
2:52:36 >> So we would depend on on them to be able
2:52:39 to get there or they can use the the
2:52:42 remote feature. And so um and some of
2:52:44 our principles during uh COVID used
2:52:47 their funds different ways. Um in my
2:52:50 math department chair room, we have
2:52:52 cameras that are focused on the
2:52:53 whiteboard um and TVs that show a remote
2:52:56 access ability. And so we would take
2:52:58 advantage of that to help them while
2:53:00 they if they did not have transportation
2:53:01 to site.
2:53:02 >> Okay.
2:53:04 Um
2:53:05 so I know our our work week and our work
2:53:08 schedule is governed by our like union
2:53:09 contracts. What do we need to change?
2:53:11 Like how does that work in terms of
2:53:13 logistics of approving this and having
2:53:15 the different work schedule uh the four
2:53:17 days a week and then the coming in one
2:53:19 Friday a month. How would that work on
2:53:20 the logistics on the union contract that
2:53:22 we have for our our teachers as well as
2:53:24 our staff? So, I did meet with a lot of
2:53:26 stakeholders there, whether that was
2:53:27 with TEA, um, HR, employee relations.
2:53:32 Um, and so there are a few fine-tuning
2:53:34 things because of, uh, the consensus
2:53:37 agreement that still need to be worked
2:53:38 out. One of them is that Friday period.
2:53:41 Um, and so there's a feature that
2:53:45 working with, uh, Mr. Hernandez that
2:53:47 we're exploring currently um as a way to
2:53:50 make sure that the hours that our
2:53:52 teachers are working are more consistent
2:53:54 through both pay periods of the month.
2:53:57 >> Okay.
2:54:00 Um
2:54:02 so with the the WBL, the CCRI, and all
2:54:04 these different programs we want to have
2:54:06 in place now, I know we're dealing with
2:54:08 chronic absenteeism and so many other
2:54:09 issues from STEM students that are
2:54:11 struggling. We have some, you know,
2:54:12 great students that are really engaged
2:54:13 and we have a lot of students that
2:54:14 aren't. like how how what will we do
2:54:16 differently to try to engage those
2:54:17 students that are struggling that aren't
2:54:20 coming into school regularly that that
2:54:22 we lose on those Fridays now and now
2:54:23 they have another day that they're not
2:54:24 being engaged in school like what are we
2:54:26 what are we going to do differently with
2:54:27 those kids
2:54:28 >> so I do think first of all that we are a
2:54:29 unique school because of a seven period
2:54:31 day that allows us that extra
2:54:33 opportunity for our teachers in PLC to
2:54:35 target our students so they currently
2:54:37 have a directive that they are to
2:54:39 examine data during one of those hours
2:54:41 during the week and we would use that
2:54:43 opportunity as well as the first two
2:54:45 hours on Friday. We're not projecting
2:54:46 many students to get up on a day of
2:54:48 recess at 8 a.m. to come and get help.
2:54:50 Um, but to be able to target those
2:54:51 students for achievement or attendance
2:54:53 purposes, utilizing the MTSS framework
2:54:55 and processes and be able to um show
2:54:59 them that we need them to be here and to
2:55:01 work with our homes to get them a little
2:55:03 bit of extra help. I think it's oftent
2:55:04 times our students don't know how close
2:55:06 they are to success um before they give
2:55:09 up. and this little push by having this
2:55:11 enrichment opportunity, our flex Friday
2:55:13 will give them the chance to know that
2:55:14 we care about them and their
2:55:16 achievement.
2:55:16 >> Do you think they'll actually come in on
2:55:17 those Fridays? You think we'll be able
2:55:18 to engage students day off?
2:55:21 >> I mean, that is an interesting question.
2:55:23 So, we've had conference period, which
2:55:24 is a tutoring aspect um both before
2:55:27 school and embedded on our bell
2:55:29 schedule, right? And so when students
2:55:31 have a chance to come in early, we often
2:55:32 see those that need to do makeup
2:55:34 assignments, but those that care most
2:55:36 about their grades. They want their
2:55:37 teachers to know that they're willing to
2:55:38 come in for five minutes and find out if
2:55:40 they need anything. Um, I think that we
2:55:42 are going to as a pilot make sure that
2:55:46 we target those students so that we set
2:55:48 frameworks for this process to be
2:55:49 repeated in the future.
2:55:53 >> Okay, there's a few more quick questions
2:55:55 here. So, if we do this pilot starts
2:55:57 next uh year, what u might be a slide on
2:56:00 this, but what how will you measure
2:56:01 success? How will you measure uh
2:56:03 struggles and failure? what measurements
2:56:05 are you going to be putting in to pivot
2:56:07 to to make this work uh or to change
2:56:09 things or to go back to way things were
2:56:10 like what are you going to be measuring
2:56:11 next year?
2:56:12 >> So I think you heard about some of the
2:56:13 ways that the criteria that our English
2:56:15 department chair talked about for
2:56:17 attracting students. So those are
2:56:18 immediate opportunities to gain
2:56:20 measurement but also comparing their
2:56:22 their F rates from uh this current
2:56:25 school year to what it would look like
2:56:27 after uh nine weeks after four and a
2:56:29 half weeks. So judging what how they
2:56:31 achieved in class in addition to their
2:56:33 benchmarking in addition to standardized
2:56:35 tests um and making sure that those
2:56:37 targets on Friday and the opportunity
2:56:39 for enrichment are utilized for
2:56:42 achievement.
2:56:44 >> So will that be something that comes
2:56:45 back to the governing board next year
2:56:46 then for who's going to look into this?
2:56:48 Yeah, Dr. Trio.
2:56:50 >> Yeah, you're this is why this item is
2:56:51 not action. We still have some work to
2:56:53 do on the financial impact. We also have
2:56:56 a little bit more work to do on uh
2:56:58 adherence and compliance with existing
2:57:00 consensus agreement language and we're
2:57:03 still fleshing out the metrics.
2:57:05 Definitely course failure is at the
2:57:07 front. We want to see a reduction in the
2:57:09 amount of FS particularly with the
2:57:11 underclassmen. We want to see a
2:57:13 reduction in credit deficiency and we're
2:57:16 hoping to put in uh metrics for improved
2:57:18 attendance. So we're going to have that
2:57:20 fleshed out. Those three areas will be
2:57:22 fleshed out when it comes back for
2:57:23 action. Okay.
2:57:26 And my last question and my only point
2:57:27 of kind of concern with the proposal is
2:57:29 the Fridays. Um, and why not like
2:57:31 midweek? And so in my high school back
2:57:33 in the 90s, it was Wednesday was our our
2:57:35 day that wasn't a schedule with classes.
2:57:38 And that worked really well to get like
2:57:39 into the city and do things and have a
2:57:41 midweek kind of break to refresh for the
2:57:43 rest of the week. We always talk about
2:57:45 when we have like the three-day
2:57:46 weekends, how that other day, whether
2:57:48 it's a Thursday or a Tuesday, is so low
2:57:50 in attendance. And I wonder if we do the
2:57:52 Friday that we're going to be missing a
2:57:53 lot of kids on those Thursdays as well
2:57:55 or or a Monday is coming back with a
2:57:56 4-day weekend instead of a three-day
2:57:58 weekend. Especially with our short day
2:58:00 already on Wednesday, why did we not
2:58:02 pick like a Wednesday for the the day
2:58:04 that is not scheduled with class?
2:58:06 >> So the short day on Wednesday um is a
2:58:09 result of us delivering PD. And so the
2:58:11 manner in which I deliver PD uh might be
2:58:13 different for us. you know, might the
2:58:15 CSP that's here tonight might not love
2:58:17 the effect the uh the fact that he would
2:58:20 have to give multiple PDs over the
2:58:21 course of a day instead of one to all
2:58:23 faculty members, but it would offer us
2:58:25 an opportunity to target improvement
2:58:26 through our um through our teachers. Uh
2:58:30 so that's why not Wednesday, though I'm
2:58:32 open for suggestions. I simply looked at
2:58:34 the calendar, compared the most amount
2:58:36 of days off and looked at Fridays being
2:58:38 the days that were um most numerous in
2:58:42 in our recess and thought that it would
2:58:44 make sense for our parents to have the
2:58:46 our students there as much as possible
2:58:47 Monday through Thursday.
2:58:49 >> I was concerned about that Thursday a
2:58:50 loss. So you always mentioned that Dr.
2:58:51 Trillo in terms of like Fridays not
2:58:53 being good for having that and that's
2:58:54 why we we we talked about this with our
2:58:56 professional learning days when we was
2:58:58 on Thursday before. We lost a lot of
2:58:59 kids on Friday. We moved it to Wednesday
2:59:01 but I'm like why can't we just move it
2:59:02 to Friday? so that those four days a
2:59:04 year we could have the three-day
2:59:06 weekends. And the big complaint was or
2:59:07 the reason was that we didn't want to
2:59:08 move the professional learning days to
2:59:10 Friday because then we would lose a lot
2:59:12 of Thursday and make a big mess for the
2:59:14 whole long weekend. And so that was
2:59:16 brought up uh like a year or two ago
2:59:18 when we were moving the professional
2:59:19 learning days from Thursday to
2:59:20 Wednesday. And so I would love to look
2:59:22 into that a little more and and see what
2:59:23 other options we have. And I do want to
2:59:25 point out that one of our parents talked
2:59:26 about um and and while that fits her
2:59:29 certainly um but the ability for her to
2:59:32 be able to have her son travel back and
2:59:34 forth between states is something that
2:59:36 um the Fridays worked best for her on
2:59:38 that situation. Um but I'm sure that
2:59:39 there are multiple things that we need
2:59:41 to look at when we get the final
2:59:42 consideration.
2:59:45 >> Governor boarding questions.
2:59:47 >> So what's the timeline? What's the next
2:59:48 step on this process? Dr. Trio
2:59:52 >> fast. So, we're back here at the end of
2:59:54 the month. We're back here at the 28th.
2:59:55 We're going to have the financials
2:59:56 worked out. We'll have uh if an MOA is
2:59:59 necessary, we're hoping to engage with
3:00:01 TEA, have that all um uh ready to go,
3:00:04 and then we'll certainly have metrics
3:00:06 fleshed out and um we'll have u some
3:00:08 fleshed out justification for why Friday
3:00:11 might be the best day of the week.
3:00:14 Right. Thank you.
3:00:15 >> Thank you. [clears throat]
3:00:15 >> Thank you everyone for being here
3:00:16 tonight. [applause]
3:00:23 >> [applause]
3:00:26 >> Dr. Shaw,
3:00:27 >> looking for a break.
3:00:28 >> Uh, well, I just want to propose moving
3:00:31 um 8.2 up because it is 8:30 and I'd
3:00:34 like the public to be able to listen to
3:00:38 um
3:00:41 the statutory requirements for school
3:00:44 closures and consolidations.
3:00:46 >> We also have family here for 7.1. Dr.
3:00:48 Trillo, is that correct?
3:00:50 Uh she actually had to leave early.
3:00:52 >> Okay. So we don't have any family here
3:00:53 for that one.
3:00:53 >> So we can do that whenever the end of
3:00:55 the agenda.
3:00:56 >> All right. So the proposal is to move
3:00:57 8.2 next.
3:01:00 Um and then go back to the start of the
3:01:02 agenda.
3:01:03 >> Yes.
3:01:03 >> Any objection? All right. I'll take
3:01:05 unanimous consent for that uh change. So
3:01:08 next we'll have 8.2 to USD governing
3:01:10 board policy and Arizona statutory
3:01:13 requirements for school closure
3:01:15 consolidation and boundary review. Dr.
3:01:17 Trill.
3:01:18 >> Yes. President Shaw, members of the
3:01:19 governing board, um before we even
3:01:23 engage in any kind of formal discussion
3:01:26 about anything related to uh school
3:01:29 consolidations or mergers, we first have
3:01:32 to take a look at what's legally
3:01:34 required and what does your own process
3:01:36 say. So this is the very starting point
3:01:39 of taking a look at what those
3:01:40 requirements and what the law says and
3:01:42 then where we can start putting together
3:01:44 a timeline uh regarding public
3:01:47 engagement and some of the required
3:01:49 pieces. So uh leading us through this is
3:01:51 going to be Mr. Ross our general
3:01:53 counsel. I believe he'll be assisted
3:01:54 with our associate general counsel and
3:01:57 for historical perspective we have the
3:02:01 member I was joking in with him this
3:02:03 morning. I don't want to I'll just say
3:02:05 he's the more experienced team member
3:02:07 that was here in 2010 and 2012 when
3:02:11 closures were last enacted. So he was on
3:02:13 the ground for that. He can give you
3:02:15 that perspective for any questions
3:02:17 related to the presentation. With that
3:02:19 I'll turn it over to Mr. Ross.
3:02:20 >> Thank you Dr. Trillo and good evening
3:02:22 governing board members. Sorry I have a
3:02:24 cough drop in my mouth. I think I think
3:02:25 I have a whole palvery in my throat
3:02:28 right now in this last half hour didn't
3:02:30 help. Um, okay. So, what I want to do is
3:02:33 go over the the the statutory
3:02:37 requirements for uh school closures or
3:02:40 consolidations. Um, and then also
3:02:42 governing board policies that have been
3:02:45 developed to uh to accomplish that. So,
3:02:50 there's one statute really that applies
3:02:53 here and it's 15341A32.
3:02:56 And the procedure that the statute
3:02:58 requires is this. So you do a written
3:03:02 notice to all parents and guardians and
3:03:04 this is language from the statute in the
3:03:06 district um 10 days before you hold a
3:03:08 public meeting. Um the notice gives the
3:03:11 reasons for the proposed closure, the
3:03:13 time and place of the meeting and then
3:03:15 that also that's an additional notice
3:03:17 than your normal governing board meeting
3:03:19 notice. So this is 10 days before you
3:03:22 have basically a public hearing on the
3:03:24 issue of consolidations or closures and
3:03:27 that goes to all parents and guardians
3:03:29 of the district.
3:03:32 So you have that uh public
3:03:34 meeting/hering meaning the contemplation
3:03:36 of the statute is to have a public
3:03:38 process and participation by the
3:03:40 community. At that public meeting
3:03:42 hearing uh there is discussion and
3:03:45 comments on the proposed closure
3:03:47 consolidation. Then the board needs to
3:03:49 wait 10 more days after that public
3:03:53 hearing before the board can vote on a
3:03:57 proposed closure or consolidation. And
3:03:59 then the only other statutory
3:04:00 requirement is notifying the school
3:04:03 facilities board of a proposed reduction
3:04:06 in student square footage.
3:04:09 So that's the statutory process. Easy,
3:04:12 right? That's it. That's all that the
3:04:14 that the state law requires. But this
3:04:16 governing board has adopted policies
3:04:19 that flesh out that process uh to work a
3:04:22 a community um a communitywide
3:04:25 conversation about this before the board
3:04:28 votes.
3:04:29 So the main policy here is FF FCB which
3:04:33 is um called closing schools but it
3:04:35 would apply to any consolidations.
3:04:38 The policy has in it um considerations,
3:04:42 the factors that that the board expects
3:04:45 to be addressed when presenting a
3:04:48 recommendation for consolidation of
3:04:50 schools. And they're listed there,
3:04:52 enrollment, attendance, condition of
3:04:54 buildings, um any potential for um for
3:04:58 the programs that are in schools, and
3:05:01 then how close they are to others. And
3:05:03 then, you know, looking at history of
3:05:05 changes, and then what could the
3:05:06 property be used for? um for reuse.
3:05:10 The process also includes a and we'll
3:05:14 talk about this in a second is adherence
3:05:16 to the a superintendent's administrative
3:05:18 regulation which really gets into the
3:05:21 public u the public participation part
3:05:24 of this. But the policy does say um the
3:05:27 expectation is a thorough systematic
3:05:29 study and those are words from the from
3:05:32 the policy of all the impacting factors
3:05:35 that can come into play. um and the
3:05:38 evaluation of the contribution of the
3:05:41 facility to the whole community is one
3:05:43 of those considerations.
3:05:44 So that's governing board policy FCB. Um
3:05:48 it also requires open opportunity for
3:05:51 public comment. Um again this is
3:05:53 supposed to be a stakeholder
3:05:55 communitywide conversation and that that
3:05:57 public comment and participation would
3:06:00 include um students, parents, staff and
3:06:02 community members. The other uh
3:06:05 interesting piece of this policy is that
3:06:07 um if a school is closed then the policy
3:06:10 requires a commemorative commemorative
3:06:12 plaque to be created um and that there's
3:06:15 also permanent public display of any
3:06:18 school names and dates of operation. So
3:06:20 just kind of a historical
3:06:22 acknowledgement of the importance of
3:06:24 schools in the community um built into
3:06:26 the board's policy.
3:06:28 So that's the board's kind of here are
3:06:30 the expectations that we have. what does
3:06:33 the regulation the superintendent's reg
3:06:35 regulation say about how to accomplish
3:06:37 that? So, uh obviously the board's
3:06:41 policy contemplates a public process and
3:06:44 the superintendent's job is to create uh
3:06:47 a plan for that public process and
3:06:49 present that to the governing board. So
3:06:53 um the board the superintendent would
3:06:54 create this process uh evaluating the
3:06:57 consolidations do that systematic study
3:06:59 that the policy uh requires and then
3:07:03 there's all these criteria that are
3:07:04 primary that are listed not just in the
3:07:06 policy but also um again repeated in the
3:07:09 regulation. um a little bit more detail
3:07:12 here um about you know what the
3:07:15 superintendent would expect in making a
3:07:17 formal study and recommendation and then
3:07:20 the plan must be submitted to the
3:07:21 governing board for oversight. So this
3:07:23 isn't a list the first step here isn't a
3:07:27 list of potential targets for
3:07:29 consolidation. its presentation to the
3:07:31 board of here's how we're going to about
3:07:33 to go about getting that list and what
3:07:36 the criteria is going to be used and how
3:07:38 the governing board is going to hear
3:07:40 from the superintendent on engagement of
3:07:42 the community. So that plan has to be
3:07:45 submitted for review and then also that
3:07:47 would include a timeline who's going to
3:07:49 be involved and what kinds of things
3:07:52 they're going to be doing to gather um
3:07:54 uh community input. And of course the
3:07:57 goal is to um give the board um
3:07:59 evidence-based recommendations that um
3:08:02 gives the board uh the right timeline to
3:08:04 to do it uh successfully.
3:08:08 So that's the the closure consolidation
3:08:11 policy. In addition to that, the
3:08:14 governing board has policy JC which is
3:08:17 you know associated closely with
3:08:19 closures which is how is the board going
3:08:21 to uh accomplish boundary changes u for
3:08:25 the schools that are remaining or
3:08:27 consolidated.
3:08:29 This takes on less importance in this
3:08:32 era of of an open enrollment but you
3:08:36 know where your your your home school is
3:08:39 still has some value and relevance. Um,
3:08:42 so you know there is policy and
3:08:45 regulation on how to accomplish and get
3:08:47 public input on boundary adjustments
3:08:49 that that are the result of school
3:08:51 consolidations. So this policy requires
3:08:54 well the the regulation has two
3:08:56 superintendence committees. There's an
3:08:58 advisory committee of staff and experts
3:09:02 who develop options for what the
3:09:05 boundaries might look like. And then
3:09:07 there's a next step of a boundary
3:09:10 committee of community members and staff
3:09:12 um to review those options that are
3:09:15 developed by the advisory committee and
3:09:17 make recommendations to the
3:09:18 superintendent eventually to go to the
3:09:20 board. So two different committees, one
3:09:23 kind of a a steering working committee
3:09:26 and then another one to review that work
3:09:28 and provide recommendations.
3:09:32 So the the boundary committee um has
3:09:35 some jobs to do. One of them is to
3:09:37 notify all the parents or guardians that
3:09:40 would be affected by a boundary change.
3:09:41 And again, this is this is a separate
3:09:44 obligation than the closure piece,
3:09:46 right? This is a a separate policy that
3:09:49 says you have to notify all the affected
3:09:51 uh parents or guardians of any proposed
3:09:53 boundary change at least a week before
3:09:56 there's going to be a meeting of that
3:09:57 boundary committee. That's the the
3:10:00 boundary committee of staff committee
3:10:02 members. So, one week's notice and the
3:10:05 the regulation actually says where will
3:10:08 you provide that notice on the website.
3:10:10 Uh notices posted at schools and press
3:10:13 release and then the maps of the
3:10:15 proposed boundary changes are posted on
3:10:18 the district's website. And
3:10:20 interestingly, I'm not sure maybe Mr.
3:10:22 Nodine can tell us what we did with this
3:10:25 phrase that says another district
3:10:27 location. I don't know if that would be
3:10:28 here. I don't know if that would be at
3:10:29 at the district office. Um but the the
3:10:33 policy just says another district
3:10:34 location.
3:10:37 Um the public boundary committee meeting
3:10:40 is held in each region um that's
3:10:43 affected um or in an area. It can be at
3:10:47 at a particular school, but the I think
3:10:49 the best practice is you're going to
3:10:51 have more than one school probably
3:10:52 involved. So a regional approach makes a
3:10:55 lot of sense. The the committee presents
3:10:57 its findings to the public. The public
3:11:00 then gets to engage um in that process
3:11:03 of giving feedback um through s small
3:11:06 group discussion um or surveys and then
3:11:11 also uh the the policy says the public
3:11:13 can submit comment cards and then all of
3:11:16 those comments and the committee's
3:11:18 report gets reported back to the board
3:11:21 um through the superintendent.
3:11:26 So in addition to this we also have you
3:11:28 know until and less and until the board
3:11:31 makes changes to the post-unitary plan
3:11:34 that we're currently operating under a
3:11:36 desegregation impact analysis for the
3:11:39 options also needs to be developed and
3:11:41 we'll do that um you know assuming those
3:11:43 processes don't change we'll do that as
3:11:46 we as the board does um you know posting
3:11:49 um impact analyses on the website um and
3:11:53 then if the board takes action
3:11:55 on the boundary change. Um then it would
3:11:57 disband that public boundary committee
3:12:00 and then another notification happens um
3:12:03 to the community through the board
3:12:06 minutes through the district's website
3:12:08 um and also a bulk mail to all the land
3:12:11 owners in the affected boundaries. Not
3:12:14 just now we're not just talking about
3:12:16 parents and guardians but to um all of
3:12:18 the community members, land owners in
3:12:20 the boundaries. and then um within 90
3:12:23 days of the board's action uh notify the
3:12:26 Arizona Department of Real Estate. Um
3:12:29 not exactly sure whether they would care
3:12:32 um heck of a lot, but that's part of the
3:12:34 the process is to make sure that the
3:12:36 Arizona Department of of Real estate
3:12:40 is aware of the boundary changes for
3:12:42 schools. Again, in the era of open
3:12:45 enrollment, that doesn't seem as
3:12:46 important. I think, you know, 20 years
3:12:48 ago it probably was a pretty big
3:12:50 consideration.
3:12:53 Um, at this point I can turn it over to
3:12:55 Bryant for for these pieces.
3:13:06 These are are two um there are two
3:13:09 separate processes as uh Council Ross
3:13:12 said and um these are a very um quick
3:13:17 summary of what those processes involve.
3:13:20 Um, basically
3:13:22 with a consolidation plan, you look at
3:13:25 your options, you gather some data
3:13:26 together, you assemble the team, um, and
3:13:29 then you, as he mentioned, create a plan
3:13:31 for a public process that comes to the
3:13:33 board. Um, and then once you get that
3:13:37 done, you go out into the public, you
3:13:40 engage the public, you look at different
3:13:42 options, um, and come back, um, with a
3:13:46 consolidation presentation to the board
3:13:49 for, uh, decision. Um, so it's a little
3:13:54 different than the, um, than the
3:13:56 boundary changes because it involves a a
3:13:59 broader committee and a broader look at
3:14:02 the community. uh and it includes um
3:14:06 other experts uh to look at things like
3:14:10 perhaps demographics, land use and so
3:14:12 on. Uh and
3:14:15 brings that back to the governing board.
3:14:19 The boundary changes are more specific.
3:14:22 Um what you're looking at there is um
3:14:25 you have a consolidation plan together.
3:14:28 Um you put your two committees that uh
3:14:31 Mr. Ross mentioned together. You orient
3:14:34 those committees. You start to develop
3:14:36 an idea um what the different options
3:14:40 are and then you hold public meetings
3:14:42 with extensive notification in different
3:14:44 areas of the community. And I want to
3:14:46 point out that that the committees that
3:14:48 you put together uh really need to focus
3:14:51 on the affected areas. So they need to
3:14:54 include people from uh the affected uh
3:14:58 the boundary committee in particular
3:15:00 from the affected uh stakeholders
3:15:04 and then as I said you hold the public
3:15:06 meetings with uh uh in different areas
3:15:09 of the community and again you present
3:15:11 the boundary changes to the board. Now
3:15:14 um so in summary
3:15:17 um the consolidation process uh engages
3:15:21 a wide amount of the community and um
3:15:24 looks at the schools that should be
3:15:26 consolidated and then looks at how to
3:15:30 implement those consolidations.
3:15:32 The boundary committee is actually part
3:15:34 of the implementation
3:15:36 and um that's a more involved uh
3:15:41 process. it takes a little bit longer
3:15:43 time uh because of some of the
3:15:45 notification and and some of the uh and
3:15:48 in fact you've got two committees
3:15:49 working together and so on. Now um what
3:15:53 we did in the past is we did combine
3:15:55 them uh and ran them together. It took
3:15:59 us um over a year in each each time that
3:16:02 we did it to uh to complete the process.
3:16:06 Um the first time we learned the hard
3:16:09 way and we made decisions, we did it
3:16:12 pretty much with fully with staff. Uh
3:16:15 and we were making decisions on closures
3:16:17 in June, which is definitely not uh a
3:16:21 recommended way to go. The second time
3:16:23 we started uh in the fall and ran the
3:16:28 process all the way through the next
3:16:30 fall and we were making pre
3:16:33 presentations and board um uh
3:16:36 considerations in November and December.
3:16:40 Uh that's a much better approach to
3:16:42 take. But you can see if you combine the
3:16:44 two together, it takes longer. Um I I'll
3:16:47 look at some of the pros and cons of
3:16:50 combining and doing them separately. Uh
3:16:54 pros for separating
3:16:57 uh you can do all the consolidation
3:17:00 decisions in a single uh decision with
3:17:03 phases
3:17:05 uh on imple implementing those
3:17:07 consolidations. Um you can complete the
3:17:11 consolidation in a shorter time than you
3:17:13 can if you include the boundary process
3:17:14 with it.
3:17:16 um you're not
3:17:19 including and notifying and engaging
3:17:23 uh people who may not even be affected
3:17:25 once you decide which consolidations
3:17:28 you're doing because if you include the
3:17:30 boundaries with that you have to um
3:17:33 engage the affected uh communities
3:17:37 um [snorts] and a decision can be made
3:17:42 in as I said quicker and in a time that
3:17:45 um parents have a chance to um look at
3:17:50 this decision and make a choice in terms
3:17:53 of where they're going to enroll their
3:17:55 students.
3:17:57 [snorts] Uh the cons for separating the
3:17:59 processes are
3:18:02 some of the consolidations may not take
3:18:04 place for two to three years afterwards.
3:18:08 um because in some cases you may have to
3:18:11 add capacity to a school to be able to
3:18:14 handle the extra um students. Um that
3:18:19 wasn't the case last time. It may not be
3:18:22 the case this time, but uh you have to
3:18:24 kind of plan that there may be some
3:18:26 longer term um renovations, improvements
3:18:30 to the facilities to really make it a
3:18:33 better facility to um accept those new
3:18:36 students.
3:18:38 And then the other side of it is u a con
3:18:41 for separating is basically um
3:18:47 you don't address the attendance areas
3:18:50 fully in the consolidation plan. Um you
3:18:54 do the boundary changes later. So
3:18:56 parents have an idea where they'll
3:18:58 attend or what their homeschool will be
3:19:01 but they don't know for sure until a
3:19:04 boundary process is done. Now, as
3:19:06 Council Ross pointed out, there's a lot
3:19:10 of open enrollment. 50% of the students
3:19:12 within this district don't attend their
3:19:14 home school. So, there it's less of an
3:19:17 impact than it was in the past.
3:19:20 Uh let's look at combining them. The
3:19:22 pros are just the opposite. It's a okay,
3:19:26 it's a full process. Uh parents know
3:19:28 which school their child will attend. Um
3:19:31 the cons are there really probably has
3:19:34 to be if we want to make decisions for
3:19:37 consolidation for the uh 2728 school
3:19:41 year.
3:19:43 Um
3:19:45 there would have to be two consolidation
3:19:47 decisions
3:19:49 uh because we we could only probably do
3:19:50 a few for the next year.
3:19:54 Um combining adds time and complexity.
3:19:57 Um and it affects
3:20:01 you may include parents in the process
3:20:04 who aren't going to be um ultimately
3:20:07 affected by the consolidations.
3:20:11 So there's some extra upheaval and angst
3:20:14 in that case. So I've provided a
3:20:18 timeline for a um strategic
3:20:22 consolidation
3:20:25 uh and you can see how it runs. You scan
3:20:28 options uh in May uh if we started right
3:20:32 now uh which we actually already have
3:20:34 started looking at um gathering data
3:20:37 preparing a scope of work and so on. Um
3:20:41 then you put a team together in May. In
3:20:44 June you look at leadership interviews
3:20:47 and interviews and goal setting and do
3:20:49 some initial assessments. In in uh July,
3:20:53 you you get a public participation plan
3:20:55 to the board. Uh in August, everybody's
3:20:58 back from the summer and you initiate
3:21:01 the public process uh engaging the
3:21:04 community, evaluating and assessing uh
3:21:07 all the potential consolidations.
3:21:10 Um, and then in the rest of the time up
3:21:13 to November, you're putting together
3:21:15 implementation plans, project budgets,
3:21:18 uh, and you need to create a a
3:21:20 repurposing plan. One of the things we
3:21:22 learned, uh, from the other prop, uh,
3:21:25 processes is that you really need to
3:21:27 know what you're going to do with the
3:21:29 um, school that's vacated. and then in
3:21:32 December um some decision on the
3:21:35 consolidation plan that would give uh a
3:21:39 timely uh notification to parents for
3:21:41 enrollment.
3:21:46 Oh, and I want to point out that that
3:21:47 doesn't mean that um all the
3:21:49 consolidations would happen uh right
3:21:52 after this or all the implementation of
3:21:55 those consolidations. As I said, it may
3:21:57 be uh even a couple years down the road
3:22:00 before some of them uh are implemented.
3:22:10 And the boundary process would obviously
3:22:12 follow that too.
3:22:21 So, while you're pondering that, the the
3:22:22 other thing that occurred to me about um
3:22:25 you know, the boundary changes in open
3:22:26 enrollment, you know, kind of making
3:22:28 that less important is also this
3:22:31 district's current kind of approach to
3:22:33 transportation
3:22:35 also u you know, mitigates any boundary
3:22:39 changes. I mean that the the changes
3:22:41 that have happened in transportation um
3:22:44 really make those boundary changes less
3:22:46 less impactful as they used to be.
3:22:50 >> [snorts]
3:22:52 >> All right, governing board, it's time to
3:22:53 ask questions. Shaw,
3:22:56 >> thank you for your presentation. Uh, my
3:22:59 first question is, where's the
3:23:00 commemorative plaque at Duffy?
3:23:04 >> Uh, Duffy's still here. Um,
3:23:06 >> but it's got a sign, right? So, where's
3:23:09 >> Yeah, I don't I don't know if I don't
3:23:10 know if it's here. I don't know. I
3:23:13 haven't walked around the whole campus.
3:23:14 >> Doesn't say where the commemorative plat
3:23:15 needs to be. it be in the building or
3:23:16 somewhere like if you sell the building
3:23:18 they don't want to have a converted plat
3:23:19 for us like
3:23:19 >> there could be a hall of fame somewhere
3:23:21 in the
3:23:22 >> in 1010
3:23:24 or no
3:23:24 >> well yeah I'm just curious if it's like
3:23:26 if we utilize that school site is there
3:23:29 still a commemorative plaque that's
3:23:31 required
3:23:32 >> well the policy says a commemorative
3:23:33 plaque is supposed to be there with the
3:23:35 dates that it was in operation
3:23:36 >> I see okay well maybe I'll do some
3:23:39 soouththing later um
3:23:42 uh per the statutory requirement of 10
3:23:45 days uh for uh public notice. Um
3:23:50 does that include uh if we engage the
3:23:53 budget budget advisory committee uh to
3:23:56 review um boundary changes and school
3:23:59 closures?
3:24:00 >> So that 10 days is a minimum. Um the
3:24:03 boards could certainly do more than
3:24:04 that. Um I think you if you were going
3:24:07 to do more than that, you'd probably
3:24:08 want to do more than one type of
3:24:11 notification. Otherwise, you know, you
3:24:12 might lose the interest of folks. But if
3:24:14 the board wanted to put in um other
3:24:17 reviews by other committees or you know
3:24:19 other board action um again that's
3:24:22 that's the statutory minimum you could
3:24:24 do more.
3:24:24 >> I see. Um and then
3:24:28 uh you know per governing board policy
3:24:31 JC and JC-R I do hope that we go above
3:24:35 and beyond uh the public notices that
3:24:38 are outlined in that policy. not just um
3:24:41 post these opportunities
3:24:44 uh to participate in the boundary
3:24:46 changes on our website at schools and in
3:24:49 press releases, but also to engage uh
3:24:51 parents through email and um phone.
3:24:57 I'm not sure if we did that in the past,
3:24:59 Mr. Nodine, if it was just strictly
3:25:02 what's outlined, but I think uh we owe
3:25:04 it to our community to go above and
3:25:06 beyond.
3:25:08 So, I I'll just say that that part of
3:25:10 the obligation of the superintendent is
3:25:12 to provide the board with a plan for
3:25:15 community engagement. That could be part
3:25:16 of part of that.
3:25:18 >> Thank you. Want to make sure I
3:25:21 understand and following up on Miss
3:25:22 Shaw's question. So, this 10day public
3:25:24 notice isn't for every time that the
3:25:26 back meets or anything that's going on.
3:25:28 It's the 10-day public notice is before
3:25:31 the public meeting that's going to
3:25:33 discuss the potential school closures,
3:25:35 right? It's a very specific school
3:25:37 closure. So, um, that's going to happen
3:25:39 and that 10 and that public hearing
3:25:41 needs to happen 10 days before a final
3:25:42 board vote. Is that what I'm
3:25:44 understanding?
3:25:45 >> Yes. So, you're correct. So, the the
3:25:47 this is from the statute, not from any
3:25:49 policy. So, there's a 10-day notice
3:25:52 before a public hearing and board
3:25:54 meeting to hear of the proposed
3:25:57 consolidations or closures. Then there's
3:26:00 a 10-day waiting period before the board
3:26:02 can vote. And that public hearing can
3:26:04 happen at a board meeting like we
3:26:05 sometimes will do public hearings for
3:26:06 things.
3:26:07 >> Yes.
3:26:08 >> Okay. Miss Xram.
3:26:11 >> So this is really triggering. Um having
3:26:14 lived this um 10 days is not enough time
3:26:18 to let families know what's going to be
3:26:20 happening at their home school.
3:26:23 Um
3:26:25 each school has to have its own meeting.
3:26:27 I remember I had to travel to Sarro to
3:26:31 talk about Ocho and Mission View. I
3:26:33 shouldn't have had to have done that.
3:26:35 And I will caution this board that when
3:26:38 I did public speak at that meeting,
3:26:43 there was a stage. We all faced a stage.
3:26:46 No one was up there. It was disgusting.
3:26:51 So, if we're going to be fully committed
3:26:53 to closing these schools, our faces need
3:26:56 to be up there so that we're facing our
3:26:58 community. Um,
3:27:04 you we said that this happened. I mean,
3:27:07 South Tucson didn't know about OOA until
3:27:09 January when the superintendent barged
3:27:12 into my office stating that they were
3:27:14 closing OOA and there was nothing we
3:27:16 could do about it. Um, to this day, ooa
3:27:20 still continues to get questions if
3:27:21 their school is going to be closed. So,
3:27:23 Mr. Romero, when we're naming schools
3:27:25 without having a public discussion, it
3:27:28 really does affect
3:27:30 um a community. So, we need to as a
3:27:33 governing board
3:27:36 really take care in what we're doing
3:27:38 with school closures and school
3:27:40 consolidations because
3:27:44 some of these families, we can tell them
3:27:45 where to go. they may not go.
3:27:49 We have to be sure of what we're doing
3:27:52 at all times in regards to this decision
3:27:55 and this consolidation plan. Um 10 days
3:28:00 is not enough. Uh
3:28:03 all school communities need to be
3:28:04 notified via email, text, parent square
3:28:08 is not going to cut it. Uh
3:28:12 yeah, social media, whatever it is, we
3:28:14 want to be transparent. Let's be
3:28:16 transparent.
3:28:17 I think we also need to look at schools
3:28:19 and what additional monies they're
3:28:21 getting via grants that we're not really
3:28:24 fully aware of. Um how money is coming
3:28:26 into a school? Uh the committees who are
3:28:30 on these committees? Uh last time it was
3:28:32 just staff. Are we looking at parents?
3:28:35 Are we looking at community members? Are
3:28:37 we looking at teachers? What does that
3:28:39 look like? Uh, we need to do a better
3:28:42 job than what happened years ago.
3:28:50 >> Chime in just as a procedural note. Um,
3:28:54 I would be presenting the profile of
3:28:57 committee member that the board would
3:28:59 want. So, it would say X number of
3:29:01 parents. What do you think? X number of
3:29:04 representative of city council office
3:29:06 ward, you know, 1 through five. So even
3:29:09 though they're superintendent advisory
3:29:11 committees, I recognize the gravity and
3:29:14 weight of what we're embarking on and I
3:29:18 would not make that move without this
3:29:20 board at least, you know, not naming
3:29:22 names, but saying here's comp here's
3:29:24 committee composition. Are you
3:29:26 comfortable with that? uh because I do
3:29:29 realize that these committees are going
3:29:30 to be extremely important in addition to
3:29:33 your own governing board appointed
3:29:34 committee, the budget advisory committee
3:29:36 that will be looking at the financials.
3:29:38 >> I I just this is going to be very
3:29:41 difficult and I don't think that people
3:29:44 understand the difficulty. I mean, we've
3:29:47 closed schools before. Um it was not
3:29:51 handled well. Uh our governing board
3:29:54 needs to be at these meetings, too. I
3:29:56 mean, they need to see what this is
3:29:58 going to look like and how this is going
3:30:00 to affect our community. I know we're
3:30:02 talking about budgets and numbers and
3:30:04 such, but people and community are much
3:30:08 more than that. So, that's where I'm
3:30:10 going to leave this right now.
3:30:13 >> This one arose and Mr. Romero.
3:30:15 >> Thank you. Um, so one comment and then
3:30:20 one question for you, Mr. Ross. So my
3:30:22 comment um I went through this process
3:30:24 as a stu as a parent as well um when my
3:30:28 daughter was preschool at SU
3:30:32 um and it was one of the schools that
3:30:34 was saved quote unquote and throughout
3:30:37 the whole time she was there um and as I
3:30:40 was uh the site council president and
3:30:43 also booster club president uh it was it
3:30:46 always came up every year when we were
3:30:47 trying to recruit more parents. So, I
3:30:50 have to agree with my colleagues. We
3:30:52 have to be really sensitive when we're
3:30:54 doing this. Um, we were at Catalina and
3:30:58 I do remember the board of at that time
3:31:00 was up on stage. Um, and it's it's a
3:31:05 process because people are really
3:31:06 connected to the school. I mean, I talk
3:31:08 about RingCon all the time and I went
3:31:09 there like 30 years ago. So, you know,
3:31:12 it's it's something that's um and we've
3:31:14 seen this I I will say as a parent and
3:31:17 then also as somebody that went through
3:31:19 this district, this is probably the
3:31:20 third time I've seen closures because
3:31:23 they closed schools back when I was in
3:31:25 elementary school. So, that was a long
3:31:28 time ago in the 80s, longer than the
3:31:30 '9s. So, um I'm trying to add brevity to
3:31:34 this because this is a serious issue.
3:31:36 Um, and and it's people's community and
3:31:39 it's their homes. So, with that being
3:31:42 said, um, Mr. Ross, I don't really see
3:31:46 anything in this that
3:31:50 Well, I guess there's ARS 15341,
3:31:53 blah blah blah, but is is that the only
3:31:56 um statute
3:31:58 >> that's that's the one
3:31:59 >> concerning school closures and
3:32:00 consolidations? That's the one that
3:32:03 requires the that has the process um
3:32:05 short as it is for the board request
3:32:18 was um for getting notice out and then a
3:32:22 quick vote. Um I'm not saying that's the
3:32:25 right thing to do. That's just the
3:32:26 minimum. But that's that's it. Um, aside
3:32:30 from notifying department of real estate
3:32:32 and the school school facilities board
3:32:34 of a reduction in instructional p play
3:32:37 uh space, that's pretty much all the
3:32:40 statute requires. All the other
3:32:41 requirements are uh by board policy and
3:32:45 probably based on lessons learned um
3:32:49 over a period of time.
3:32:51 >> Okay. I just I mean and the reason I ask
3:32:54 is because
3:32:56 um and and I will say we want to be
3:32:59 sensitive, but I also think that this is
3:33:02 something that we're going to have to I
3:33:04 don't want to drag it out because it's
3:33:05 like um it's going to be hurtful. And so
3:33:10 I want to hear all from the community
3:33:12 and I appreciate Dr. Trillos um wanting
3:33:16 to make this a a very precise process as
3:33:20 can because we all saw what happened 10
3:33:23 12 years ago and many years before that
3:33:27 it wasn't handled well. So I I I just
3:33:30 don't want to drag it out too long to
3:33:32 make it hurt longer is basically what
3:33:36 I'm saying. Um just saying as a as a
3:33:39 parent who went through that. Um,
3:33:42 so I think
3:33:46 Oh, so let's say let I'm going to play
3:33:48 this out. So we do this scenario and
3:33:51 there's x amount of schools. I'm not
3:33:53 going to name [clears throat] any
3:33:53 because we're not naming any. What
3:33:56 happens after like legally like
3:34:01 the these places are no longer you know
3:34:04 working facilities. What happens after
3:34:06 that?
3:34:07 So, you still own the property, right?
3:34:10 And that's, you know, part of the
3:34:12 consideration is what are you going to
3:34:14 do with a a school that's no longer
3:34:17 operating as a school? How are you going
3:34:19 to reuse that property? Um, other than
3:34:22 that, I'm not sure what the question is.
3:34:23 I mean, they're not
3:34:24 >> Oh, well, I don't know if there's any
3:34:25 like reporting to the state.
3:34:27 >> Well, there's the again, there's the
3:34:29 school facilities board. We'll know
3:34:30 there's a reduction in school um
3:34:33 instructional space. Uh that's
3:34:36 >> that's it.
3:34:37 >> That that's that's the only thing that I
3:34:39 think the I mean they're gonna they're
3:34:40 going to have to be some um you know
3:34:44 there's a there's reporting for
3:34:46 achievement of schools and that's going
3:34:47 to be worked out with you know with our
3:34:50 data folks with this the with AD to make
3:34:53 sure that you know we're not now
3:34:55 reporting on a school that has no
3:34:57 students in it. Um and why aren't there
3:35:00 why why aren't their achievement scores
3:35:01 better? So, you know, that's that's kind
3:35:03 of one of the the administr that will
3:35:06 happen with, okay, this school is no
3:35:08 longer operating as a school and just,
3:35:11 you know, making sure there's connection
3:35:12 with AD saying that, you know, we're no
3:35:15 longer required to report those
3:35:16 students. They're now at these schools.
3:35:19 >> Okay. Thank you.
3:35:22 >> Go ahead, Mr. Romero. [cough]
3:35:25 [clears throat]
3:35:25 [snorts]
3:35:26 >> Thank you again. And I guess want to
3:35:30 thank everybody else on this board. One
3:35:33 of the things I think that
3:35:35 we are doing here is being proactive
3:35:38 versus reactive. And I think that's one
3:35:40 of the things we need to look at. Um
3:35:42 we're actually by looking at this ahead
3:35:46 of the game. We know what the AI had to
3:35:49 do with their situation. We know there's
3:35:51 declining birth rates in our community.
3:35:53 We know we have declining um enrollment
3:35:57 at our schools. We're still running off
3:36:00 the same budget we were using 20 years
3:36:02 ago when we had you know, you know, more
3:36:06 students inside of here. One of the
3:36:08 things like Mr. Nodin had mentioned, you
3:36:10 know, we have this process and one of
3:36:13 the things I think that gives us a step
3:36:15 up from the past is we're need to put
3:36:19 together a plan. We don't have to do
3:36:22 like we did. I'm just going to say Lake
3:36:24 Carson. We up and left a school.
3:36:27 Now we just uh it's an eyesore in the
3:36:30 neighborhood overgrown with weeds,
3:36:32 vandalism, things of that nature. That's
3:36:35 not the same type of approach that we're
3:36:37 looking to do. We need to be good
3:36:39 community members with these schools. If
3:36:43 it's selling it, if it's looking at
3:36:45 other community programs, uh, veteran
3:36:48 housing like we're talking about at
3:36:50 Lions,
3:36:51 what things can we contribute for these
3:36:54 facilities to better off our community?
3:36:57 We can't look at this as all of a
3:36:59 negative type of thing. There's a lot of
3:37:01 um parts that going to go along with
3:37:04 this um with
3:37:08 the possible of not keeping a school on
3:37:11 life support.
3:37:13 Maybe we can give those art uh like a
3:37:16 mariachi class to a west side school
3:37:20 that doesn't have something like that
3:37:22 because they do have an increased
3:37:24 enrollment and they do have means where
3:37:26 we're spending money in other areas
3:37:28 where we can't give them those other
3:37:31 tools that they need to succeed and
3:37:33 increase their enrollment like even
3:37:35 Brock had mentioned during palveries
3:37:38 45% of uh the population
3:37:43 um east of Swan is 55 or older. These
3:37:46 are all facts that we have to look at.
3:37:49 None of these decisions are going to be
3:37:51 made easy. Um and we understand the
3:37:54 impact on these types of things. But if
3:37:57 we have a good plan and transparency is
3:38:01 fine and I think Dr. Trillo is doing a
3:38:04 really good job as well as Rob Ross, Mr.
3:38:07 know Dean uh here and again front facing
3:38:10 we're not that board from however many
3:38:13 years ago when these things happened
3:38:15 we're a different board we we we learn
3:38:17 from those mistakes I think that's one
3:38:19 of the things we need to do is learn
3:38:20 from our mistakes I was actually talking
3:38:22 to a principal today they were part of
3:38:25 the closures where um it was Bria and
3:38:29 Menllo Park and they ended up going over
3:38:31 to Morgan Maxwell and what they ended up
3:38:34 doing they had two declining schools at
3:38:37 Briton and Menllo. They combined over
3:38:40 there to Morgan Maxwell and they're the
3:38:43 they brought in the best teachers from
3:38:44 all those schools. Their grades went up
3:38:47 uh to a a B rated school for that five
3:38:50 years, first five years in that
3:38:53 consolidation.
3:38:55 Um there was a great commodery and those
3:38:58 two other schools were failing schools
3:39:00 with lower enrollment.
3:39:02 But when they combined together in
3:39:05 another school, they were thriving. We
3:39:08 need to look at those things that were
3:39:10 successes also. So I commend um our our
3:39:15 superintendent and this board to take
3:39:19 the high road, be proactive, think ahead
3:39:22 of the game, come up with plans. How do
3:39:24 we become a good community partner in
3:39:27 this process? Be front-facing as much as
3:39:30 possible. Um, and uh, again, it's not
3:39:34 going to be easy. It's tough decisions
3:39:36 that this board is going to have to
3:39:37 make. We're looking forward to all the
3:39:39 uh, data coming back uh, from our staff.
3:39:42 So, thank you for the hard work you guys
3:39:44 are going to embark on.
3:39:49 All right. Thank you for the
3:39:50 presentation tonight.
3:39:53 All right, board. It's uh, just past
3:39:55 9:00. Uh, we have our consent agenda and
3:39:57 a couple of action items which I imagine
3:39:59 need to get done tonight to kind of move
3:40:01 things forward. The 7.1 new
3:40:03 administrative building, is that
3:40:04 something we can move to a next meeting,
3:40:05 especially since the family had to leave
3:40:07 early anyway?
3:40:09 >> Yes, we'll we'll move it to the next uh
3:40:12 meeting.
3:40:12 >> Any objection to that? All right. Seeing
3:40:14 none. All right. So, we'll just have
3:40:15 consent and then have the four action
3:40:17 items tonight [snorts]
3:40:20 or three is it three action items?
3:40:23 Is it is it four? Four. Okay.
3:40:26 >> Okay. So, we have our consent agenda.
3:40:28 Dr. Trio.
3:40:29 >> Yes. Um, I'd like to present to the
3:40:30 governing board the consent agenda as
3:40:32 arranged items uh 5.2
3:40:36 uh all the way down through believe it's
3:40:39 uh 5.13.
3:40:40 >> Governing board. Are there any items for
3:40:42 clarification, for questions, for
3:40:44 discussion, or to pull for a separate
3:40:46 vote?
3:40:46 >> Dr. Shaw.
3:40:47 >> Miss Sha.
3:40:48 >> Um I would like to ask a question about
3:40:50 item 5.7.
3:40:53 Um, and then I'd like to pull 513 for a
3:40:58 separate vote.
3:41:00 Okay,
3:41:03 >> Dr. Shaw.
3:41:04 >> Yes.
3:41:04 >> I would like to uh ask questions on 5.5
3:41:09 and on 5.7 I would like to abstain for
3:41:13 that vote because I do do work with that
3:41:15 company.
3:41:17 >> Okay, we'll pull that for a separate
3:41:18 vote then.
3:41:21 Okay. Um, we'll start with 5.5 for
3:41:23 questions and then we'll vote on the
3:41:25 rest of it. Then we'll pull 5.7 and
3:41:27 5.13.
3:41:29 All right. So 5.5 is award to approval
3:41:31 to awarded request for proposal of the
3:41:34 workplace investigation and case
3:41:35 management platform. Yeah. We kind of
3:41:37 kick this item off and and John will be
3:41:39 here um to answer any questions and um
3:41:42 we have our general counsel, Mr. Ross.
3:41:44 I'm going to start with the why. We have
3:41:47 been struggling since I've been here to
3:41:49 really have a centralized
3:41:52 easily accessible
3:41:54 online repository a or portal I should
3:41:58 say available to school administrators
3:42:00 and school personnel and school safety
3:42:02 across this district to in real time
3:42:06 document incidents that occur on campus.
3:42:09 predominantly student disciplinary
3:42:12 incidents like fights, like assaults,
3:42:14 like weapons possession or sometimes
3:42:17 when there's allegations of employee
3:42:19 misconduct.
3:42:21 So what's been happening and what
3:42:23 continues to be a challenge is when
3:42:25 [clears throat] you have a situation on
3:42:26 a campus like an assault, you don't have
3:42:29 any kind of centralized portal to go to
3:42:31 where I can look up an incident number.
3:42:34 I can log in. I can see exactly a
3:42:37 narrative of what happened, who was
3:42:39 involved, who was the responding
3:42:41 administrator, how soon parents were
3:42:43 called, were parents notified of
3:42:45 discipline. Instead, we are still in the
3:42:48 year 2026 calling individual schools and
3:42:51 actually collecting paper notes, getting
3:42:55 things out of notebooks from two or
3:42:57 three different people. Sometimes we
3:43:00 don't have anything written down and we
3:43:02 have to ask for an incident summary like
3:43:04 5 days after. I've got governing board
3:43:07 members that need answers. Sometimes
3:43:09 we're working with PD, they need
3:43:11 answers. Sometimes we're working with
3:43:13 school safety. They need to know the
3:43:15 details of a situation and we're
3:43:17 constantly in this after the fact trying
3:43:19 to get incident reports done. So a new
3:43:23 portal would be an essential tool that
3:43:25 allows our administrators in real time
3:43:28 to enter the information so that we can
3:43:30 expedite the processes that we need
3:43:32 whether that's the student handbook,
3:43:34 whether that's employee discipline so
3:43:36 that we can make sure that we have an
3:43:38 actual realtime accounting of what
3:43:39 happened. That's the same thing when
3:43:42 legal has to step in and work with
3:43:44 employee related matters. There are
3:43:47 times where they have to contact a
3:43:48 school and collect handwritten notes
3:43:51 about something that may have happened 3
3:43:53 months ago. And administrators have to
3:43:57 track all that stuff down. We want to
3:43:59 establish a new normal that when these
3:44:02 things happen, it is your responsibility
3:44:04 in real time immediately before you go
3:44:07 home. What happened? what time did it
3:44:10 happen? Who witnessed it? Who were the
3:44:12 participants? And what was your
3:44:14 communication to parents like? So,
3:44:16 that's sort of the justification. I know
3:44:17 I maybe stole a little bit of your
3:44:19 thunder, John, but uh we haven't had a
3:44:22 portal like this available. So, that
3:44:24 I'll turn it over uh for uh questions
3:44:26 for either myself, John, or Rob.
3:44:30 >> So, correct. So, we we provide an HR
3:44:32 support to all sites. So the schools and
3:44:35 departments when it comes to employee
3:44:37 conduct investigations and of course we
3:44:38 know that student relations handling
3:44:41 student investigations. Um in in HR we
3:44:44 have a team of of one person primarily
3:44:46 handling those the support for
3:44:48 administrators and we have two others
3:44:50 who would support and jump in uh during
3:44:52 the course of uh you know the busy
3:44:55 season when it comes to those types of
3:44:56 investigations. uh when I started here a
3:44:59 few years ago 2023 we were we were kind
3:45:01 of managing this through our email
3:45:03 system. So people would send emails in
3:45:05 regarding uh an incident and the support
3:45:08 would be provided by phone or by email
3:45:10 with administrators uh to guide them
3:45:13 through the process to review documents
3:45:16 um and so forth. So that was what we
3:45:18 started with. Uh we eventually
3:45:20 transition to using Jira. So Jera our
3:45:23 ticketing system for facility issues. we
3:45:26 we said, can we use that at least to be
3:45:28 able to assign the ticket and be able to
3:45:30 better track um employee uh invest or
3:45:34 investigations. Um so that's worked a
3:45:36 little bit better um just because it
3:45:38 allows us to more easily track um you
3:45:41 know ongoing cases uh versus using our
3:45:44 email system to try to flag things. We
3:45:47 get about 6 to 800 600 to 800 cases each
3:45:50 year uh at any one point. 60 or 80 might
3:45:54 be open and so there's a high volume and
3:45:56 a high level of support that HR
3:45:59 provides. Uh going to this platform
3:46:01 would uh solve a number of of issues.
3:46:04 Number one is as Dr. Trillo said enables
3:46:07 um users at different permission
3:46:09 permission levels to be able to access
3:46:11 the platform and to get information uh
3:46:14 more quickly um and easily than through
3:46:17 the current system which would basically
3:46:19 rely on HR uh working with you know
3:46:22 different partners to gather those
3:46:23 documents pull them in uh for review.
3:46:26 But um what it allows us to to the
3:46:29 platform will allow us to be a
3:46:30 repository for investigative documents.
3:46:33 So something that starts out as a school
3:46:35 incident could then be you know held and
3:46:38 and stored uh in the event that an issue
3:46:41 goes to discipline or goes to appeal or
3:46:45 goes into litigation uh for any sort of
3:46:47 reason. So right now every step along
3:46:50 the way as things escalate there's a
3:46:52 circling back to the school and HR to
3:46:55 can we pull all the relevant documents
3:46:57 there won't be a need for any of that
3:46:59 anymore. the platform will serve as a
3:47:01 repository for storing the documents and
3:47:03 having it more easily accessible in one
3:47:05 place. Um so that's going to be a
3:47:07 benefit and something that we are
3:47:09 currently not able to to do using our
3:47:11 Jira uh ticket system. Uh the second
3:47:14 thing it'll allow us to do is really
3:47:16 kind of standardize the investigation uh
3:47:19 performance. So uh the system will not
3:47:22 only provide resources and templates but
3:47:24 you know you have to it puts in place a
3:47:26 workflow so that if you are an
3:47:28 administrator and you're going through
3:47:30 uh a particular incident at your school
3:47:33 uh once you select you know the type of
3:47:35 incident that you're going to be
3:47:36 pursuing the system will ask you to go
3:47:38 through using a you established
3:47:40 templates to complete your investigation
3:47:43 cite the appropriate policies uh
3:47:45 identify the uh witnesses and statements
3:47:48 that you've gathered pull your
3:47:50 determination together and your
3:47:51 recommendations and that will be we hope
3:47:53 will be more standardized uh format so
3:47:56 that you'll see some consistency across
3:47:58 different cases and issues that you see
3:48:00 through the schools. So I've seen
3:48:02 personally you know being involved in a
3:48:04 number of cases there's a wide variety
3:48:06 of reporting that goes on a different
3:48:09 level of depth and consistency. Uh we're
3:48:11 going to we want to cure that so that we
3:48:14 have uh what we can rely on is better
3:48:17 and more consistent documentation of
3:48:19 investigations that happen. I think that
3:48:21 benefits us later in the process should
3:48:24 something get escalated and go uh you
3:48:26 know into litigation for instance. Um
3:48:28 there's an ability for there would be an
3:48:30 ability to link uh cases together. So
3:48:33 you again like you said uh a discipline,
3:48:36 an appeal, uh an escalated complaint
3:48:39 that you will be able to reference and
3:48:41 link to those prior cases without having
3:48:44 to go manually track down that separate
3:48:46 investigation and and so forth. Um
3:48:49 you'll be able to do more historic look
3:48:51 backs. So if you have repeat incidents
3:48:53 by an employee or at a site or a type of
3:48:56 incident, you'll be able to use this
3:48:57 platform to go back and and gather that
3:49:00 historic information. Um because it'll
3:49:02 keep all that information easily
3:49:05 identifiable and coded to to be able to
3:49:07 access later. Um this would be this
3:49:10 should be useful at the site level for
3:49:11 administrators all the way up to the
3:49:13 board level. It it would just have
3:49:15 varying levels of permissions. Um so
3:49:18 some people would have more access and
3:49:20 less access depending on uh the level of
3:49:22 need and uh and authority right and so
3:49:25 uh we would work through setting up
3:49:27 those permission levels uh as as part of
3:49:29 this implementation. And then of course
3:49:32 the big uh key for us is that if we are
3:49:34 going to do this trying to get to board
3:49:36 approval so that we can uh put in place
3:49:39 the training and piloting set uh
3:49:42 piloting schedule in order to try to go
3:49:45 live with this in August when we come
3:49:48 back for the school year. So um as part
3:49:50 of that it would involve board training
3:49:52 as well superintendent legal counsel so
3:49:54 department level training as well as all
3:49:56 the site administrators building in time
3:49:58 to get them familiar. We'll probably go
3:50:01 uh if if approved or work through a
3:50:04 pilot with uh probably our oper
3:50:06 operational a couple operational
3:50:08 departments that are operating during
3:50:09 the summer to get set up to start using
3:50:12 the system and getting familiar with it
3:50:14 so that by the time we get into July um
3:50:17 go through training with administrators
3:50:19 uh we can understand what to expect in
3:50:21 terms of of any issues that we might
3:50:24 encounter with the system. Um, so that's
3:50:26 that's that's the plan and that's the
3:50:28 general scope of what we're proposing
3:50:30 here.
3:50:32 >> Okay. And then just quick question, I
3:50:34 did some research on this. So what is it
3:50:37 sounds like? Yes, we need this type of
3:50:39 program within our system for
3:50:41 efficiencies
3:50:43 and it showed that there's two different
3:50:45 models. The targeted model or the
3:50:47 enterprise model. Are we doing targeted
3:50:50 just to focus on that or are we doing
3:50:52 the enterprise I guess for whatever? So
3:50:55 I'm my computer is like on the blink
3:50:58 right now but we are I think we're going
3:50:59 to the enterprise I think the yeah the
3:51:02 enterprise version. So
3:51:03 >> enterprise version because looking at
3:51:05 that it also talks about different
3:51:07 departments they can focus on human
3:51:08 resources uh continuous improvement and
3:51:11 planning financial operations services
3:51:13 clinical services
3:51:15 choice and enrollments facilities and
3:51:17 grounds athletics transportation health
3:51:19 and safety assessment and information
3:51:22 technology. Are we planning on using
3:51:24 more of these things on there or are we
3:51:26 going to kind of pick and choose which
3:51:27 ones we have holes in our district?
3:51:31 >> We're just looking I mean really we
3:51:33 looking at facilitating investigations
3:51:34 at the school sites and at department
3:51:36 sites at this point. So we're it's a
3:51:37 narrow scope that we want to pursue and
3:51:39 then um we're going to be working to
3:51:41 customize it to our particular needs for
3:51:44 now. So, um there's lots more
3:51:46 capabilities in there, but at this
3:51:48 point, uh trying to maintain focus on
3:51:50 the investigation based on our employee
3:51:52 conduct and student um issues.
3:51:55 >> Okay. And then as far as criteria
3:51:57 picking this program and then maybe Mr.
3:52:00 Rob Ross can tell me about this when it
3:52:02 gives us like the purchasing department,
3:52:04 it says information for the RFP should
3:52:06 remain confidential until governing
3:52:08 board awards. This says compliance with
3:52:10 the Arizona Administrative Code
3:52:12 R7-21045-B,
3:52:16 which states all those things. So, is
3:52:18 that a a code that we're always uh uh
3:52:21 under for uh any type of procurement
3:52:24 purchases, Mr. Russ?
3:52:25 >> I would hope that's cited in all of our
3:52:28 competitive purchases.
3:52:29 >> Yes.
3:52:31 >> So, so yes, so that is that's common
3:52:33 place as far as that goes. And the only
3:52:35 reason I'm kind of questioning, you
3:52:37 know, what the criteria is, so I was
3:52:39 looking at it. Um, you know, most of the
3:52:42 school districts that this company is is
3:52:46 in Canada, Alberta, British Columbia,
3:52:48 Manitoba, etc., etc. US states were New
3:52:51 York, New Jersey, Illinois, Missouri,
3:52:53 and Ohio. And then it talks about proud
3:52:56 school districts, you know, um, Missi
3:53:00 Community School out of Gas City,
3:53:02 Indiana. Another one, Hammond Central
3:53:04 School District, Hammond, Indiana. All
3:53:06 the schools that it looks like that
3:53:08 they've done work with are all kind of
3:53:10 smaller schools and smaller districts.
3:53:12 Some of the forms that I seen in place
3:53:14 are kind of specific to those and then
3:53:17 you can kind of modify those. I'm just
3:53:19 wondering where are criteria with this
3:53:21 one. It just seems uh limited and
3:53:24 nothing that's kind of in our area of
3:53:27 the country that they've worked with.
3:53:30 So I we definitely wanted vendors who
3:53:33 have experience uh in with school
3:53:35 districts. So uh we know we have a large
3:53:37 school district. Uh so it's hard to find
3:53:39 sometimes peer-to-peer um um you know um
3:53:43 services or vendors that have had that
3:53:45 experience but definitely we wanted K2
3:53:47 experience. Uh we got 11 vendors who
3:53:49 submitted uh you know proposals. uh we
3:53:52 were able to demo uh with three of them
3:53:54 to see what met kind of met our uh
3:53:57 criteria for ease of use the the
3:53:59 different level of permissions being
3:54:01 able to load customized templates uh to
3:54:04 support our administrators. So that was
3:54:06 the type of the functionality uh was was
3:54:08 a key part of it also uh and then also
3:54:10 you know meeting our needs within budget
3:54:12 as well. So uh those are probably the
3:54:15 essential criteria that eventually um
3:54:18 resulted in this recommendation.
3:54:20 >> And then in that enterprise model if we
3:54:22 decided you wanted to utilize some of
3:54:24 these things are there going to be extra
3:54:26 costs for those or those other forms
3:54:27 that we can kind of download to
3:54:29 incorporate these other things where you
3:54:31 might have services or needs.
3:54:39 >> How do I do that?
3:54:43 Good evening, governing board. Um, yes,
3:54:45 on the enterprise model, usually what we
3:54:48 do is we'll put it out. We have the
3:54:50 scope and then those items are, I guess
3:54:52 you'd call allocart. It's those things
3:54:54 as we get into the program if there are
3:54:57 additional services that we want. It's
3:54:59 covered under the contract that we can
3:55:01 then engage the vendor. And then it
3:55:03 would also be either something that yes,
3:55:05 they would say we can give you that as
3:55:08 part of the service that we're already
3:55:09 doing or if there's an additional cost,
3:55:11 they'll let us know, but they would not
3:55:13 move forward and we wouldn't move
3:55:15 forward with anything without getting
3:55:16 additional approval if it was an
3:55:18 additional expense.
3:55:19 >> Okay? But potentially, we wouldn't have
3:55:21 to use additional money to do some of
3:55:24 these services. The way that I was kind
3:55:26 of going through this, I guess, is what
3:55:27 I wanted to see. If we decided to use
3:55:29 more, it's not really going to cost us
3:55:31 more unless they let us know.
3:55:33 >> Correct.
3:55:33 >> Got it. Okay. Thank you for for your
3:55:36 time on that. Thank you.
3:55:37 >> Thanks,
3:55:38 >> Dr. Shaw.
3:55:39 >> Miss Shaw, go ahead.
3:55:40 >> Thank you. Um,
3:55:42 with this platform, will employees have
3:55:46 uh the option of being able to make
3:55:49 reports independently
3:55:52 um of the site administrator if the
3:55:54 investigation or complaints um involve
3:55:58 or implicate the said site
3:56:01 administrator?
3:56:02 >> No, that's I mean this wouldn't be for
3:56:03 receiving complaints. uh we would pretty
3:56:05 much receive them the same way we do
3:56:07 today up through the school
3:56:08 administration up to HR directly um
3:56:12 through those various existing channels.
3:56:15 >> So
3:56:16 >> so this system is really to manage the
3:56:18 post complaint investigation. So I I
3:56:21 yeah if I'm if I'm hearing you correctly
3:56:23 >> this is for things that happen like the
3:56:25 fights, the assaults, the you know if
3:56:27 there's allegations of employee
3:56:29 misconduct or something happened, there
3:56:31 was an accident at the campus. So that's
3:56:33 really where and we have to do an
3:56:35 investigation after the fact or it's
3:56:37 headed for litigation or there's TPD
3:56:40 involvement.
3:56:41 >> So it's a way for site administrators to
3:56:44 collect all the data involving what
3:56:48 things that Dr. Trujillo said. It's not
3:56:51 um it can't be used for employees to
3:56:54 make complaints
3:56:57 investigations.
3:56:58 >> No, that's not the function, right? The
3:56:59 function is, you know, the outcome is we
3:57:02 want a better, more wellorganized
3:57:04 artifact file heading into a long due
3:57:06 process hearing for a student that might
3:57:08 be facing a long-term suspension. We
3:57:10 need to make sure we have all that
3:57:12 evidence. If the board has to weigh in
3:57:14 on a unfortunately from time to time an
3:57:17 employee termination, whatever incident
3:57:19 led to that fact, we need this is going
3:57:21 to allow us to have a better, more
3:57:22 well-rounded collection of artifacts and
3:57:25 evidence. So, it's meant to help us
3:57:28 manage those investigations and create a
3:57:30 repository of those artifacts.
3:57:33 >> Okay. Do we have a platform for uh
3:57:36 employees to make the
3:57:40 um complaints? I know we the audit
3:57:41 committee has a portal on their uh
3:57:45 district website, but
3:57:47 I don't know. It seems like this could
3:57:49 serve as as that as well. But does it
3:57:53 have that capability? And I'm not aware
3:57:55 that it does. I think I mean like I said
3:57:57 I I hear your point. I mean I'm in ter
3:57:58 of how to facilitate a receipt of
3:58:00 complaints. Right now we currently goes
3:58:02 to sites HR the board superintendent. We
3:58:05 get them a variety of ways. Uh we can
3:58:07 definitely explore you know what you
3:58:10 know that might look like. I'm much I'm
3:58:11 not aware that that would be a
3:58:12 capability. It's not something we looked
3:58:14 at.
3:58:14 >> Okay.
3:58:15 >> I hear your point.
3:58:16 >> Yeah. Um kind of on that same vein, uh
3:58:19 for our mandatory reporters, um will
3:58:22 this platform serve as like a primary or
3:58:25 secondary um uh reporting system for
3:58:29 incidents that involve mandatory
3:58:32 reporting?
3:58:33 >> It would only facilitate the
3:58:34 investigation part of it. The mandatory
3:58:37 report still needs to be made um by our
3:58:40 administrators or who you know our
3:58:41 teachers who are covered by the those
3:58:43 responsibilities. So we would expect in
3:58:45 the narrative of the event
3:58:47 >> if it that we would expect the mandatory
3:58:49 report number. We would expect that the
3:58:52 time that was called in. So the
3:58:54 narrative portion of it we would expect
3:58:56 inside of that report
3:58:58 that would be in this portal.
3:59:00 >> Okay.
3:59:03 Thank you.
3:59:04 >> All right. Governing board before us
3:59:05 I'll move the items 5.2 to 5.6 5.8 to
3:59:10 5.12.
3:59:12 So, um, I'll second.
3:59:14 >> All right. Item moved by myself and
3:59:15 second by Miss Luna Rose. All those in
3:59:17 favor say I. I.
3:59:18 >> No opposed. Item passes 5-0. Now we're
3:59:20 on 5.7.
3:59:22 Uh, I think there were some questions
3:59:24 from Mr. Romero. Mishab.
3:59:27 >> Yeah. Um, I had a question of for Mr.
3:59:31 McCullum. First, thank you for your
3:59:33 presentation earlier. Um, I think it is
3:59:36 so important that we do have more
3:59:37 oversight of our CTE classes. Um
3:59:41 um I say that because my daughter's um
3:59:44 dad and uh Tata are woodworkers and her
3:59:48 Tata is definitely missing like one and
3:59:50 a half digits. Um and so in regards to
3:59:53 the loss of the wood shop at Sabino, are
3:59:57 there others uh wood shops in our
3:59:59 district?
4:00:00 >> Yeah, there are two. We have a
4:00:02 construction program at Choya High
4:00:04 School and a construction program at
4:00:05 Catalina High School.
4:00:07 >> Okay, great. Um,
4:00:10 I appreciate that. And then we have how
4:00:12 many like advisors for that or or
4:00:15 assistants to to keep track of those
4:00:18 students?
4:00:19 >> Well, right now, um, we're looking at
4:00:21 one instructor for each of those sites,
4:00:23 but through the override, we're looking
4:00:25 to hire two instructional specialists,
4:00:29 one for Choya and one for Catalina. And
4:00:31 so there would be two sets of folks in
4:00:33 the room.
4:00:34 >> Oh, great. All right. Thank you.
4:00:39 Go ahead, Mr. Romero.
4:00:40 >> And I just
4:00:42 >> I just needed a separate vote on that
4:00:44 because I uh currently do business with
4:00:47 the vendor and
4:00:48 >> No questions then.
4:00:49 >> No question.
4:00:49 >> All right. So, I'll move item 5.7.
4:00:51 >> Second.
4:00:51 >> Item moved by myself and seconded by
4:00:53 Miss Shaw. Those in favor say I. I.
4:00:56 >> I. Any abstensions?
4:00:57 >> Abstain.
4:00:58 >> Item passes 40 with one abstension. Uh
4:01:00 next we have item 5.13. Miss Shaw, you
4:01:03 have some questions.
4:01:04 >> Yeah. uh a couple meetings ago, I think
4:01:06 that we had discussed in one of the uh
4:01:09 budget uh cut discussions uh that we
4:01:13 were going to move away from uh mileage
4:01:16 reimburse reimbursements for our
4:01:18 governing board. Um and so I would like
4:01:21 to vote uh against this item since it
4:01:23 includes mileage reimbursement.
4:01:26 >> So this is a report of expenses that
4:01:29 have already taken place. This is not an
4:01:31 approval of future expenses. Um, it's
4:01:34 certainly your prerogative to decide to
4:01:36 not reinvest.
4:01:37 >> I don't think there's any questions. Um,
4:01:38 I'll move the item.
4:01:41 >> Can you um Thank you. I'd like to
4:01:43 >> Was there a question?
4:01:44 >> Yeah. I would like um you to finish your
4:01:47 comment.
4:01:47 >> So, as I was saying, like you all can
4:01:49 decide for yourselves if if you want to
4:01:52 make a decision in regards to your
4:01:53 reimbursements. Right now, as elected
4:01:56 officials, we're required when you file
4:01:58 a claim against the district for any
4:02:00 kind of travel reimbursement, we have to
4:02:02 process it, but that it's entirely up to
4:02:04 you to decide as a board if you want us
4:02:06 to continue to do so or not, but this is
4:02:09 a report of activity that's already
4:02:11 taken place.
4:02:12 >> Thank you.
4:02:13 >> I move by myself and second amendments
4:02:15 Lunar Rose. All those in favor say I.
4:02:17 >> I. I. Any opposed?
4:02:18 >> Opposed.
4:02:19 >> Item passes 41. All right. Next we have
4:02:20 action items 6.1 administrative
4:02:22 appointments. Uh chief operations
4:02:24 officer Dr. Trillo.
4:02:26 >> Yes. President Shaw, members of the
4:02:28 governing board, uh I'm very very
4:02:30 excited uh to bring forward a candidate
4:02:32 tonight for your consideration.
4:02:35 Uh tonight's uh recommendation is the
4:02:37 current uh chief operations officer for
4:02:40 Loi Unified School District in uh what
4:02:43 would be Northern California.
4:02:46 She's been serving in that district for
4:02:48 24 years. Uh she served the majority of
4:02:51 her career as an executive director for
4:02:54 information technology services, what
4:02:56 would be a a chief technology officer in
4:02:58 our world. But for the last three or
4:03:01 four years, she's been serving as that
4:03:03 district's uh chief operations officer
4:03:06 in charge of the facilities and the
4:03:08 transportation and the projects and
4:03:10 overseeing bond bond uh projects and
4:03:13 overseeing food services and health
4:03:15 services like our in-house COO would do
4:03:18 here. Uh she is a um a veteran of uh
4:03:24 tough decisions that have had to be made
4:03:26 in that district. uh bond levies like we
4:03:29 recently passed here. That district did
4:03:32 do school closures a few years back uh
4:03:34 during her tenure. Even though that
4:03:36 process over there is led on the
4:03:38 academic side of the house, she
4:03:40 certainly was in support of that uh
4:03:42 issue. Uh tonight she is where we would
4:03:45 want her to be here in TUSD. She's
4:03:47 unable to be here tonight because she is
4:03:49 at uh one of the district's largest high
4:03:51 schools addressing employee and
4:03:53 community concerns about a renovation
4:03:55 project in the baseball stadium. the
4:03:57 kind of visibility that we would want to
4:03:59 see here. Uh so tonight's hiring
4:04:01 recommendation is Miss Edith Holbert for
4:04:04 your consideration.
4:04:06 Thank you, Dr. Trillo. Governing board,
4:04:08 any questions or comments before we have
4:04:09 a motion?
4:04:12 >> Well, we're excited about getting this
4:04:13 position uh filled with someone who has
4:04:15 experience in that role. And I'll move
4:04:17 the item.
4:04:18 >> Second.
4:04:18 >> Moved by myself and seconded by Miss
4:04:20 Sha. All those in favor say I. I. I.
4:04:23 Item passes 5. And I understand we have
4:04:25 a video.
4:04:26 >> All right. We have a statement. Uh, Miss
4:04:28 Herbert couldn't be here this evening.
4:04:30 Miss Borbboa.
4:04:31 >> Uh, President Shaw, members of the
4:04:32 board, Superintendent Thruillo, and
4:04:34 attendees. Thank you for the privilege
4:04:35 of allowing me to join the Tucson
4:04:37 Unified School District community. It is
4:04:39 an honor to serve the students and
4:04:40 staff. District operational teams play a
4:04:43 vital role in keeping our schools safe,
4:04:45 welcoming, and ready for learning each
4:04:47 day. When we keep students at the center
4:04:49 of what we do, we help create
4:04:51 environments where both students and
4:04:52 educators can succeed. I'm looking
4:04:54 forward to leading this mission and
4:04:56 meeting everyone very soon.
4:04:58 Respectfully, Edith Hullbert.
4:05:01 >> Dr. Shaw Glenn,
4:05:03 >> I see I'm sorry.
4:05:05 >> Oh, I see Hu Lopez in the audience and I
4:05:08 would just like to thank him for all of
4:05:09 his time and
4:05:12 >> the extensions of time that you um
4:05:14 served to USD. So, thank you for all
4:05:16 that you've done and um yeah, we hope to
4:05:20 see you soon.
4:05:20 >> Yeah, let's give him a round of
4:05:22 applause.
4:05:24 I mentioned in our leadership team more
4:05:27 our leadership team meeting this morning
4:05:29 that this is the first uh chief
4:05:31 operations officer that we've had
4:05:33 permanently for almost 2 years. And Mr.
4:05:37 Lopez, you've graciously time and time
4:05:39 again have been extended and have filled
4:05:40 all that time for us. I know you're
4:05:42 anxious to get back to uh retired life
4:05:44 as a proud uh grandpa, but uh we we
4:05:47 certainly appreciate all your support.
4:05:50 >> Thank you. Thanks for pointing that,
4:05:51 Miss Extram. Great. All right, we'll
4:05:54 move us on. Hopefully, we'll have a a
4:05:56 chance for her to to say hi at an
4:05:57 upcoming meeting so we can see her face
4:06:00 and get to know her a little bit as
4:06:01 well. Dr. Trio.
4:06:04 >> Yes, absolutely.
4:06:05 >> Uh 6.2 approval of contracts for Eli
4:06:08 employees of the Tucson Unified School
4:06:10 District for next school year.
4:06:11 >> Yeah, I'd like to turn this item over to
4:06:12 our chief human capital officer, Mr.
4:06:14 Fernandez.
4:06:15 >> Yeah, good evening. Uh at this time
4:06:17 every year, we bring forth our ELI
4:06:20 contracts which are essentially uh
4:06:22 include your principles, assistant
4:06:24 principles, school psychologists, uh
4:06:26 research project managers. Uh we have
4:06:29 124 contracts before you for approval.
4:06:32 Uh once uh you know with board approval,
4:06:35 we would begin issuing those contracts.
4:06:38 Um last year with the midappril
4:06:40 approval, we were able to lock those
4:06:42 contracts in by early May. Um, so we're
4:06:44 looking forward to um being able to get
4:06:46 those contracts out.
4:06:49 >> Governor board members, any questions or
4:06:50 comments? Mr. Romero,
4:06:53 >> so I haven't really looked at these in
4:06:55 the past. I was just kind of analyzing a
4:06:58 little bit more and I have some
4:06:59 questions cuz we got the list, [snorts]
4:07:02 four pages worth. And so I'm just kind
4:07:04 of going back a little bit on history on
4:07:07 some of these things. one of our high
4:07:08 schools. And it looks like uh on one of
4:07:12 our main high schools, we have
4:07:15 like this last one, three assistants
4:07:18 that are not returning, one assistant
4:07:21 that's moving back to their former
4:07:23 school. And then I guess also going back
4:07:26 to the year before that at the same high
4:07:29 school, we had again a lack of retention
4:07:32 with our um our ad uh assistant
4:07:36 principles uh at this school. And it
4:07:39 looks like it's a kind of the consistent
4:07:41 thing that's going on and again this
4:07:43 year why there's not returning
4:07:45 assistance at uh that school Tucson
4:07:48 High. Um and I even looking back at 2324
4:07:51 when um Mr. Rivera was there again. We
4:07:55 had some turnover there. I know one left
4:07:58 to go work for principal of an
4:08:01 elementary school and some changes
4:08:02 happened at the end of the year. So is
4:08:05 there a reason I guess on some of these
4:08:07 and then I also was looking at like I
4:08:09 said principal at another assistant
4:08:11 principal at another school transferred
4:08:13 over to her former school. So, is this
4:08:16 something that Eli has with their
4:08:18 contract that comes to the district or I
4:08:21 I thought like on some of these ones, if
4:08:23 you move to a school, you if you want to
4:08:25 go back to your old position, you have
4:08:27 to apply and compete or is that
4:08:29 different with the ELI contracts on
4:08:31 these things?
4:08:32 >> So, with with so in the situations where
4:08:34 you're talking about uh people, you
4:08:36 know, administrators serving in an
4:08:38 interim capacity. So, at Tucson High, we
4:08:40 have three um interim PR assistant
4:08:43 principles there. uh that first of all
4:08:45 they go through the appointment process.
4:08:46 So the board would be the the you would
4:08:49 be authorizing and approving those
4:08:51 interim assignments. But for those who
4:08:53 are internal they have they're working
4:08:55 at another site taking an interim
4:08:57 assignment that interim assignment is
4:08:59 just for the year and then they return
4:09:01 uh to their site um unless there was
4:09:05 another interim appointment extended. U
4:09:07 for Tucson High for example yes there
4:09:10 were three interim assistant principles.
4:09:12 Uh we're now going through the hiring
4:09:14 process uh for permanent uh assistant
4:09:17 principles. You know, we don't we don't
4:09:18 want interims, but sometimes they get we
4:09:21 do get interim appointments uh when we
4:09:24 uh get late get late in the season or
4:09:27 you someone is serving in an interim
4:09:28 principal capacity and we're backfilling
4:09:30 the assistant principal position. So the
4:09:32 interims are supposed to last a year and
4:09:34 then we're supposed to go in and try to
4:09:36 fill those um in the next hiring cycle.
4:09:39 And that's what's happening with a lot
4:09:40 of these positions. So if I if I took
4:09:42 Tucson High for example, there are three
4:09:44 assistant principles are interim. Two of
4:09:46 them were internal. So if they did not
4:09:48 um apply, compete and get selected to
4:09:51 continue at Tucson High, they would
4:09:52 revert uh to their prior positions in
4:09:55 the district. Um so that's that's what
4:09:58 that's what's happening. uh we try to
4:10:00 avoid interim assignments as much as
4:10:02 possible, but if they're in place, uh we
4:10:05 would certainly be working like we are
4:10:06 today to fill those um with full-time
4:10:09 permanent assistant principal
4:10:11 appointments that we hope to bring to
4:10:12 you or for your approval. Um we're
4:10:16 looking at May 12th uh for that for all
4:10:18 those appointments to be made on the
4:10:19 assistant principal ships.
4:10:20 >> All right. So then in that case of say
4:10:22 Cuc high with the three interns if they
4:10:25 that didn't go back to their old schools
4:10:27 if they decided they wanted to buy for
4:10:29 that job and they're not on this list
4:10:30 they can still apply for that position
4:10:33 >> right and so we're we are currently in
4:10:35 the middle of of well at the start of of
4:10:39 principles now going through that AP
4:10:41 pool and and setting up their interviews
4:10:44 for those applicants and in many cases
4:10:46 yes those interim uh APS are applying uh
4:10:49 for you know those that school or for
4:10:52 other APS uh AP opportunities. So, we'll
4:10:55 that'll sort itself out by um by May
4:10:59 12th is our is our target date.
4:11:01 >> Okay. And then some other people that
4:11:02 may not be on this list. Um is it um
4:11:06 just kind of for retirement transfers?
4:11:09 Do we have kind of an idea of why people
4:11:11 are no longer on this this list? I know
4:11:14 they just give us this list, but I don't
4:11:15 see the ones that are no longer on that
4:11:17 list. Right. So, if you're not on that
4:11:19 list, you may have resigned. Uh you may
4:11:22 right you resigned, retired, uh got
4:11:24 promoted to a district level, you know,
4:11:26 maybe a non a non-bargaining
4:11:28 uh position, uh gone back into teaching
4:11:31 or you know, retired and going back into
4:11:32 a counselor position. So, it reflects
4:11:34 all of those all of those items that you
4:11:36 are not continuing as an administrator
4:11:38 in the coming year. uh you would not be
4:11:40 offered a contract
4:11:42 >> unless like those interims they decide
4:11:44 to reapply then they will kind of get
4:11:46 locked come back into here or is that a
4:11:48 separate kind of vote?
4:11:49 >> Yes, they so yeah they would become they
4:11:51 would come back in their new capacity
4:11:53 once I mean what basically you're going
4:11:54 to you know if you appoint them into
4:11:56 their new position they would get a
4:11:57 contract at that point reflecting their
4:12:00 newly appointed status. Okay. So, this
4:12:03 is basically what we have right now on
4:12:05 the table, but there are other positions
4:12:07 that are open and those other positions
4:12:10 will come back, not four pages worth,
4:12:13 but all those available spots that are
4:12:15 still available in the district.
4:12:16 >> Correct. Yeah. So, by early May, we're
4:12:18 hoping that we'll bring all those
4:12:19 remaining AP principal shifts that are
4:12:21 open um and having those filled and
4:12:24 appointed uh by the board.
4:12:25 >> Fantastic. Thank you.
4:12:30 >> I'll move the item. I'll second.
4:12:33 >> All right. Item moved by myself and
4:12:34 seconded by Miss Luna Rose. All those in
4:12:35 favor say I. I. Any opposed?
4:12:38 >> Item passes 5-0.
4:12:40 >> All right. And we're going to move on to
4:12:42 6.3
4:12:45 approval of the next school year's
4:12:47 override funded compensation increases
4:12:49 and salary schedules.
4:12:50 >> Yes. I want to thank our chief uh uh
4:12:52 financial officer, Mr. Hernandez, for
4:12:54 the work he's done with TEA. And then
4:12:56 our employee relations director, Jason
4:12:58 Free. this has been his first major
4:13:00 project. Uh appreciate all them coming
4:13:02 together to put tonight's information uh
4:13:05 together for your consideration.
4:13:07 >> Good [clears throat] evening board
4:13:08 members. So yeah, this is uh the first
4:13:10 well the next big chunk of our override
4:13:13 implementation. It is the commitment to
4:13:16 compensation increases for employees
4:13:18 across the district. So just as an
4:13:21 overview, we obviously had a 15%
4:13:23 override about $45 million. um very
4:13:26 fortunate that the voters approved that
4:13:28 in November. Um I won't go through kind
4:13:30 of what the years will look like, but
4:13:32 ultimately um the renewal th this
4:13:35 funding will be good through year five
4:13:37 of the of the override. So through
4:13:40 November or through uh I should say
4:13:42 through June of 2031. Um seems like a
4:13:45 long time away, but 5 years won't take
4:13:48 that long to get here. And uh until that
4:13:51 point, we will fully fund the amount
4:13:53 that is part of this compensation
4:13:55 increase um unless there is not a
4:13:58 renewal by the voters or the board at
4:14:00 that time decides to not put this back
4:14:02 out on the ballot. Um currently we're
4:14:04 estimating a property tax of about 95
4:14:06 cents. So it's about 7 cents lower than
4:14:09 we previously estimated. So about $7 for
4:14:12 every $100,000 in assessed valuation. Um
4:14:15 we'll know that'll be finalized in the
4:14:18 summer. So, what was the commitment? So,
4:14:21 the override committed that employees
4:14:23 would receive the following. A $3,000
4:14:26 increase for all teachers or all
4:14:28 employees, I should say, in the TDR,
4:14:31 TDRB, and NEXAT teacher salary schedules
4:14:33 in the consensus agreement. A 4%
4:14:36 increase for all other employing groups,
4:14:38 including substitute teachers. You can
4:14:40 see across on the right hand side of the
4:14:42 screen essentially what the estimate is.
4:14:44 Right now, we're estimating just over
4:14:45 $20.2 2 million um will be invested
4:14:49 which is uh just over half of the entire
4:14:52 uh override that will be committed to
4:14:55 providing increases based on on their
4:14:57 bargaining group. Um as I provided there
4:14:59 for substitutes it is an estimate simply
4:15:01 because the estimate of how much they
4:15:04 will earn is dependent on how much they
4:15:05 work since they are essentially on call
4:15:07 employees um at this time. So the
4:15:11 implementation process is this. It will
4:15:13 apply to all regular positions which
4:15:16 include our monitors, our elementary
4:15:18 support workers, our crossing guards,
4:15:20 our substitutes, and our principal
4:15:21 mentors. It will also includes include
4:15:24 least and return to work employees in
4:15:26 those categories. The 4% increase will
4:15:29 be based on the current grade or step of
4:15:32 that employees base hourly rate or
4:15:34 salary. So, wherever you are on the
4:15:36 salary schedule and all of the salary
4:15:38 schedules were attached to the board
4:15:39 agenda item, your 4% will go from there.
4:15:42 there and I provided several examples on
4:15:44 this slide. Now for TD, TDRB and exit
4:15:48 only this process is still to be
4:15:50 determined. Um we've been working on
4:15:52 this with Tucson Education Association
4:15:54 with TEA for a few weeks now. We have
4:15:56 not finalized a uh essentially a
4:15:58 preferred implementation process and
4:16:00 we're hoping to get some resolution
4:16:02 before the end of the month so that we
4:16:03 can get this um squared away for the
4:16:06 next school year. But ultimately
4:16:08 everybody else um that is not TD, TDRB
4:16:11 or EXID teacher um and substitute which
4:16:14 includes substitutes will um will
4:16:16 receive the increase effective the uh
4:16:19 2627 at this point. So now no increases
4:16:22 will be affected to positions like
4:16:24 coaches and extra duty positions or
4:16:27 supplemental positions like summer
4:16:28 school. Um the override increase does
4:16:31 not affect other similar compensation
4:16:33 items. So we do for example sick leaf
4:16:35 payout or vacation payouts those are not
4:16:38 those are going to be uh paid out at
4:16:40 your regular rate not at your override
4:16:42 rate. Um shift differentials education
4:16:44 stipens and like I mentioned
4:16:46 supplemental base rate. Now overtime pay
4:16:48 is different. We will pay overtime based
4:16:51 on your current hourly rate plus that
4:16:54 4%. So if you're at $20 and now you're
4:16:56 going to be at 2080 your overtime will
4:16:59 be calculated at that 2080. All of the
4:17:01 increases will go into effect on July 1
4:17:04 or the first day of your contract,
4:17:05 whatever is later since so we have some
4:17:08 employees who ne don't necessarily start
4:17:09 on July 1. They may start later in the
4:17:11 month of July um or even into August.
4:17:14 Whenever they start, that's when the the
4:17:16 increase will go into effect. Now
4:17:18 earlier in February uh you approved
4:17:21 contracts contract language that is
4:17:23 already incorporated into all of those
4:17:25 contracts that talks about uh the fact
4:17:28 that you know a portion of the
4:17:29 compensation for these employees is
4:17:30 override funded and it's subject to
4:17:32 future funding levels. So if anything
4:17:34 changes down the road obviously you know
4:17:37 the board has full comm you know full
4:17:38 authority to decide how we're going to
4:17:41 uh fund that going going forward
4:17:43 depending on our funding levels in the
4:17:45 future.
4:17:47 So, next steps, uh, if you approve this
4:17:49 this item tonight, uh, finance and HR,
4:17:52 we're going to begin working on the
4:17:53 implementation of the new salary
4:17:54 schedules. Again, they're they're
4:17:56 provided with the agenda item 42627.
4:17:59 Um, employee relations, finance and HR,
4:18:01 we will continue to work with with
4:18:03 [clears throat] TEA to uh focus on the
4:18:05 implementation process of that $3,000
4:18:08 increase. And all employees will receive
4:18:10 notification of what those respective
4:18:12 increases will be. Once they're
4:18:14 finalized in our payroll system, we will
4:18:16 start actually rolling over our payroll
4:18:18 system to open 2627
4:18:20 um this weekend. So, we will uh we will
4:18:23 start kind of getting those ready to
4:18:24 roll um here pretty soon. So, with that,
4:18:28 any questions?
4:18:31 >> I had a question. So, on the pay stop
4:18:33 and payroll, will that be like a
4:18:35 separate line item for the override or
4:18:36 will it be incorporated into their base
4:18:38 salary? it'll be so on their on their
4:18:40 check it they'll see one line item. Um
4:18:42 in the payroll system we will separate
4:18:45 it out. So we will focus so that we can
4:18:47 track it separately but people will only
4:18:49 see one base pay item. Um if the board
4:18:52 wants us to you know show it separately
4:18:54 we'd have to kind of develop a kind of a
4:18:57 supplemental pay kind of structure so
4:18:59 that you know like I said if you're $20
4:19:02 we'd have to develop a separate line
4:19:04 item just for that 80 cents. Um, so that
4:19:06 if people want to see that override, if
4:19:08 that's something the the board can wants
4:19:09 us to do, we can certainly work on uh
4:19:12 doing that. Otherwise, it's gonna be
4:19:14 rolled into just one base pay item.
4:19:17 What does the board prefer? Would you
4:19:19 prefer see or keep it into just rolled
4:19:22 in?
4:19:25 I see Mr. Romero saying separate
4:19:30 neutral on Miss Luna Rose.
4:19:41 All right. [clears throat]
4:19:43 [sighs] What do you think would be best?
4:19:48 >> Just in terms of ease or
4:19:50 >> Well, obviously I'm going to I'm going
4:19:51 to advocate for my payroll team and make
4:19:53 it as easy as possible for them, but we
4:19:56 will do whatever you want us to do. If
4:19:58 you prefer us to have a separate line
4:20:00 item so people can see it, ultimately
4:20:01 everybody's going to get notified,
4:20:03 right? So everybody's going to know you
4:20:05 make A today, tomorrow you're going to
4:20:06 be 8 time 40 or time 4%.
4:20:10 So I mean either way we're going to
4:20:12 notify people of what the difference in
4:20:14 their pay structure will be.
4:20:17 >> There's no override after 2030 or 2032
4:20:20 or however it works with that. We would,
4:20:23 and that's why I'm saying in the payroll
4:20:25 system, not to get too technical, we
4:20:27 would be able, we track it separately,
4:20:28 we would be able to kind of essentially
4:20:30 yank that 4% back, but people would see
4:20:33 no change to that, you know, to their
4:20:34 base pay of like let's say that $20
4:20:36 example.
4:20:46 >> Okay.
4:20:48 I don't think a lot of consensus and
4:20:49 everything we can. Yeah, we I don't
4:20:52 think we need to make a decision on that
4:20:53 tonight though, right? That's something
4:20:54 >> you don't need to make a decision about
4:20:55 that tonight. Like how we want to
4:20:57 structure it, we can do it at any point
4:20:58 in time.
4:21:00 >> What we really need to know, especially
4:21:01 for auditing purposes, we need approval
4:21:03 of the salary schedule so that we can
4:21:06 work on the compensation roll out
4:21:08 >> and the only thing we're not approving
4:21:09 is TR T and Xed.
4:21:12 >> Correct. And substitute teachers.
4:21:14 >> Substitute teachers are are Yeah, we're
4:21:16 still working on them. So those are the
4:21:18 only four groups that are still kind of
4:21:20 >> All So I'll move the item as presented
4:21:22 then.
4:21:23 >> I'll second
4:21:24 >> item moved by myself and second
4:21:26 amendments Luna Rose. All those in favor
4:21:27 say I.
4:21:28 >> I.
4:21:28 >> I. Okay. No. Item passes 5.
4:21:31 >> Thank you.
4:21:32 >> All right. Thank you.
4:21:36 >> All right. And our last item for tonight
4:21:37 6.4 approval of the implementation of
4:21:41 the results of the phase 1B of the
4:21:43 investment grade audit. Dr. Trillo.
4:21:46 >> Yes. I'd like to welcome our uh bond
4:21:48 project manager Dr. Charlotte Carter for
4:21:51 this final item of the evening.
4:21:54 >> Good evening uh to the go govern
4:21:57 governing board president Dr. Sha and uh
4:22:01 board members. I am here to present the
4:22:05 implementation of the results of the
4:22:07 phase 1B of the investment grade audit.
4:22:12 Uh the board will receive and you're
4:22:14 receiving information as for the results
4:22:18 of the phase 1B
4:22:21 investment grade audit for the
4:22:23 implementation at the following schools
4:22:26 banks booth C. Rose Davis Romero
4:22:32 bilingual elementary magnet deeds draman
4:22:38 lineweaver monzo Roberts Naylor Robins
4:22:42 K8 Sil um tab veil middle and right K6
4:22:49 so I did want to mention to you the
4:22:52 scope
4:22:53 so this is going to include the
4:22:55 construction of the facilities and
4:22:58 improvement measures which they call
4:23:00 fins and the energy conser conservation
4:23:03 measure ECMS. So that can include things
4:23:07 such as the engineering and design for
4:23:09 complex HVAC domestic water line
4:23:13 replacements, plumbing modernization,
4:23:15 sewer upgrades, irrigation replacements,
4:23:19 building envelopes reduced air
4:23:22 infiltration, for example, sealing doors
4:23:25 and windows.
4:23:28 uh electrical which is uh the switch
4:23:30 gear transformers and upgrades. Uh
4:23:34 career tech education for students and
4:23:38 the benefits for the district in the
4:23:41 implementation of the investment grade
4:23:43 audit is enhanced design standards and
4:23:46 utility savings which we know is very
4:23:48 important right now. Reduce risk through
4:23:51 IGA engineering and ongoing performance
4:23:54 asurances. modernize facilities that
4:23:57 address emergency cost overruns. Provide
4:24:00 data analytics for transparency and
4:24:04 accountability
4:24:05 and standardizing documentation and
4:24:07 software that provides predictability
4:24:10 and long-term operational value.
4:24:14 And on the screen uh if you go down a
4:24:17 little bit you will see the schools that
4:24:20 this includes and it shows the
4:24:23 individual amounts. So each one of these
4:24:27 uh particular schools have been assessed
4:24:29 and the recommendations for
4:24:32 implementation have been provided. Uh
4:24:35 and it shows the total for the 14
4:24:38 schools of 26,562,370.
4:24:44 We uh all the time have been um doing a
4:24:48 contingency of 20%.
4:24:51 Which makes the total for this
4:24:53 particular um board agenda item is
4:24:56 31,874,844.
4:25:02 So what I am asking for today is a
4:25:06 motion to approve the implementation of
4:25:09 the results of the phase 1B of the
4:25:12 investment grade audit.
4:25:14 Any questions?
4:25:21 >> Dr. Shaw,
4:25:22 >> go ahead.
4:25:23 >> I'll move the item.
4:25:24 >> I'll second
4:25:25 >> item moved by Miss Exterm and seconded
4:25:27 by Miss Lunar Rose. So I'm sorry. I'm a
4:25:29 little confused. So you mentioned a
4:25:32 whole list of things, but do we know
4:25:33 like per school what we're approving?
4:25:36 >> Yes. And so instead of giving you 17
4:25:38 proposals and I did for the bond
4:25:41 oversight committee, they got each
4:25:42 individual uh proposal and in each
4:25:45 individual proposal based on the
4:25:47 assessment is what they're getting. So
4:25:50 like for example
4:25:52 um I brought one of the proposals for
4:25:58 um
4:25:59 in this particular case I uh brought
4:26:02 banks and so within their 11 pages it
4:26:08 outlines exactly what that school would
4:26:11 be getting.
4:26:12 >> Okay. And that was vetted by the back
4:26:14 and every or the bond oversight
4:26:16 committee. I'm sorry.
4:26:18 >> That was already vetted by the bond
4:26:19 oversight commission.
4:26:20 >> Yes. They received as part of their
4:26:22 packet all the of the proposals and so
4:26:26 they were able as well to ask questions
4:26:28 if they had any. Uh but it's very
4:26:31 individualized because each school is
4:26:33 different and custom.
4:26:34 >> Okay.
4:26:36 >> All right. Uh all those in favor say I.
4:26:39 >> I. Any opposed? Item passes 5-0. Thank
4:26:42 you, Miss Dr. Carter.
4:26:43 >> Thank you.
4:26:45 All right,
4:26:47 Dr. Trujillo stepped out, but I do want
4:26:50 to say that we have on our schedule
4:26:52 uh next week uh exact only session. I
4:26:55 don't believe there are any items. So, I
4:26:57 will move for us to cancel that uh
4:26:59 meeting next week.
4:27:01 >> Second move by myself and second by Miss
4:27:03 Shaw. Those in favor say I.
4:27:05 >> I. I.
4:27:06 >> Okay. [clears throat]
4:27:06 Item passes 5-0. So, our next meeting
4:27:09 won't be next week, but will be on the
4:27:10 28th for a full meeting. Uh usually Dr.
4:27:14 Dr. Heel will give I see him walking
4:27:16 back
4:27:18 to does there's anything else from the
4:27:19 governing board on this item.
4:27:20 >> Dr. Sha
4:27:21 >> Mich
4:27:22 >> um I would like to add to a future
4:27:24 agenda a uh desegregation advisory board
4:27:28 committee
4:27:30 um as an action item to discuss and and
4:27:34 vote on that.
4:27:36 Um, and also add to a future agenda a
4:27:40 review and revision of governing board
4:27:42 policy JC and JCR so we can update the
4:27:47 public notice minimum requirements.
4:27:51 >> Dr. Trio, we um cancel next week's
4:27:53 exectoon meeting because there's no
4:27:55 items. Correct.
4:27:57 >> Uh, we do have Where's Miss Boa? I
4:28:00 thought I Do we have a student hearing?
4:28:02 We do have a student hearing scheduled.
4:28:04 Would would that be able to fit in the
4:28:07 May executive session?
4:28:12 >> We we
4:28:12 >> we have a student hearing on the 21st.
4:28:13 >> We have a student hearing scheduled for
4:28:15 the 21st, but we would just need to
4:28:16 notice notice the parents, I think, by
4:28:18 tomorrow.
4:28:19 >> Yeah, we Okay, we'll take care.
4:28:20 >> This one item is the only thing that we
4:28:21 have.
4:28:21 >> We could take it into the first meeting
4:28:23 in May.
4:28:24 >> Okay.
4:28:31 >> All right. I think that's it then. All
4:28:32 right. I'll close the meeting. Thank you
4:28:33 everyone. Thank you everybody.
4:28:49 >> Thanks Jerry.
4:28:52 >> Yeah, it was fun. It was a good day.
4:29:05 as always. Thank you.